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I had finished this Call of Duty: Black Ops Game Last to last Sunday. this game is good to play And This was really screw up game.2010-12-01 05:05:00

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I had finished this Call of Duty: Black Ops Game Last to last Sunday. this game is good to play And This was really screw up game.
I'd probably shake my fist at you, but unfortunately I don't even know what you said.		2010-12-01 05:50:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

Hmm, why post in a thread for a game I hate?
Well, I guess it's because I hate the game... and forums are a place for the free exchange of ideas. The internet would be an incredibly dull place if we all went around agreeing with each other. I'm just curious how such a decidedly average game can be so popular

No, I was playing Black Ops last night - not because I "wanted to" - in the sense that if it weren;t for the fact I got an invite I wouldn't have stuck it on.
I mainly bought it because a good friend of mine moved away and the only time I really get to talk to him on while playing Black Ops, as it's all he ever plays.
& even though I can finish in top 3, I don't enjoy playing the game - and from what I hear on the mics, most people who are playing the game are in an annoyed and frustrated mood... the game seems to foster those two emotions above any others. They want to make you annoyed and frustrated and hope you'll keep playing in the vain hope of relieving the annoyance and frustration. I think this is backed up by the fact that any time someone makes a comment on mic, it is out of frustration or annoyance.
It also seems geared around a single player lording it over the whole group... the way the killstreaks are done just compounds success, so that if you are doing well, you can;t help but do even better - and if you are doing bad, it'll only get worse.
To suggest that it is in someway "balanced" is laughable.

As for customisation options... if you like to dress up barbie dolls, then I suppose changing the colour of your gun might appeal... but for real customisation, look to a game like MAG, and you'll see that CODs customisation options are superficial.

But if anything, the fact it's so popular confirms for me it's status as vaccuous trash.. because that's what the public love.
Anything that is actually challenging, or original, or different in anyway is shunned by the mass market.

'It would certainly be unfair to measure the worth of any age by that of its popular objects of literary or artistic admiration. Otherwise one might say the present age will be known and estimated by posterity as the age which thought Black Ops a good game." - Paraphrasing John Stuart Hill		2010-12-01 15:42:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

No, I was playing Black Ops last night - not because I "wanted to" - in the sense that if it weren;t for the fact I got an invite I wouldn't have stuck it on.
I mainly bought it because a good friend of mine moved away and the only time I really get to talk to him on while playing Black Ops, as it's all he ever plays.
& even though I can finish in top 3, I don't enjoy playing the game - and from what I hear on the mics, most people who are playing the game are in an annoyed and frustrated mood... the game seems to foster those two emotions above any others. They want to make you annoyed and frustrated and hope you'll keep playing in the vain hope of relieving the annoyance and frustration. I think this is backed up by the fact that any time someone makes a comment on mic, it is out of frustration or annoyance.
It also seems geared around a single player lording it over the whole group... the way the killstreaks are done just compounds success, so that if you are doing well, you can;t help but do even better - and if you are doing bad, it'll only get worse.
To suggest that it is in someway "balanced" is laughable.

As for customisation options... if you like to dress up barbie dolls, then I suppose changing the colour of your gun might appeal... but for real customisation, look to a game like MAG, and you'll see that CODs customisation options are superficial.

But if anything, the fact it's so popular confirms for me it's status as vaccuous trash.. because that's what the public love.
Anything that is actually challenging, or original, or different in anyway is shunned by the mass market.

'It would certainly be unfair to measure the worth of any age by that of its popular objects of literary or artistic admiration. Otherwise one might say the present age will be known and estimated by posterity as the age which thought Black Ops a good game." - Paraphrasing John Stuart Hill

I disagree with what you say about anger and frustration, most see it as a stress release because it can really push you. I'm sure most would rather have a sparring session with a nearby coushion than explode on their mates. It's only healthy to get angry and frustrated every so often.		2010-12-01 15:56:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

I disagree with what you say about anger and frustration, most see it as a stress release because it can really push you. I'm sure most would rather have a sparring session with a nearby coushion than explode on their mates. It's only healthy to get angry and frustrated every so often.

Every so often, yeah fair enough.
But it's constant and unending on COD... and they are random strangers not mates - who then send you expletive filled messages accussing you of cheating somehow just because you won the game.
That's stress inducing, not relieving.

I haven't really noticed it to the extent that I have on COD in other multiplayer games.
It's like the game is an A**hole magnet		2010-12-01 18:38:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Hmm, why post in a thread for a game I hate?
Well, I guess it's because I hate the game... and forums are a place for the free exchange of ideas. The internet would be an incredibly dull place if we all went around agreeing with each other. I'm just curious how such a decidedly average game can be so popular

No, I was playing Black Ops last night - not because I "wanted to" - in the sense that if it weren;t for the fact I got an invite I wouldn't have stuck it on.
I mainly bought it because a good friend of mine moved away and the only time I really get to talk to him on while playing Black Ops, as it's all he ever plays.
& even though I can finish in top 3, I don't enjoy playing the game - and from what I hear on the mics, most people who are playing the game are in an annoyed and frustrated mood... the game seems to foster those two emotions above any others. They want to make you annoyed and frustrated and hope you'll keep playing in the vain hope of relieving the annoyance and frustration. I think this is backed up by the fact that any time someone makes a comment on mic, it is out of frustration or annoyance.
It also seems geared around a single player lording it over the whole group... the way the killstreaks are done just compounds success, so that if you are doing well, you can;t help but do even better - and if you are doing bad, it'll only get worse.
To suggest that it is in someway "balanced" is laughable.

As for customisation options... if you like to dress up barbie dolls, then I suppose changing the colour of your gun might appeal... but for real customisation, look to a game like MAG, and you'll see that CODs customisation options are superficial.

But if anything, the fact it's so popular confirms for me it's status as vaccuous trash.. because that's what the public love.
Anything that is actually challenging, or original, or different in anyway is shunned by the mass market.

'It would certainly be unfair to measure the worth of any age by that of its popular objects of literary or artistic admiration. Otherwise one might say the present age will be known and estimated by posterity as the age which thought Black Ops a good game." - Paraphrasing John Stuart Hill

Customization is customization, it doesn't matter if its coloring the gun, adding your own clan tag or emblem. Or changing your red dot sight, it's what people like, and this is shown by the record breaking sales and the million people on everyday, on weekdays.

And the only reason the game fosters those two emotions is because Call of Duty pushes you, it frustrates you, it's for the hardcore gamers (mainly.) The term "try hard" originated from Call of Duty, 99% of montages are created for Call of Duty. It's a game for the hardcore gamers. Call of Duty and Halo are the only two games I ever hear about in Gamebattles/MLG discussions.


To suggest that it is in someway "balanced" is laughable.

It is balanced. Your just somehow blinded by this fact because of your biased opinion towards the franchise. Every type of gun excels in it's appropriate area. Sniper Rifles are meant for long range, while SMGs and Shotguns are used for short range, etc.

If you truly believe that a person that is doing well in a video game should be punished for it then I have to say no more. The one thing Modern Warfare 2 did that was horrible was award players that died in succession bonuses like Painkiller or Martyrdom. This is the wrong idea of going through any game.


Hmm, why post in a thread for a game I hate?
Well, I guess it's because I hate the game... and forums are a place for the free exchange of ideas. The internet would be an incredibly dull place if we all went around agreeing with each other. I'm just curious how such a decidedly average game can be so popular

True, a forum is a place for the free exchange of ideas, but your shoving your ideas down our throats. Stating your opinion as fact, the game is not trash. It's only trash to you (any many others I can only assume,) get your mind straight please. The fact that you posted three negative comments in this thread before anyone called you out on it just goes to prove that your only here to start a fight or seek attention. There is something called a civilized discussion but it's not possible with someone that continues to state opinion as cold hard fact. Call of Duty is a franchise that will probably last for a long long time, either get over it, get used to it, or continue to stress yourself out for no apparent reason at all. Your choice.

Your location says "Under the Bridge" so I can only assume you as a "troll" and your Interests are "Hating things" so I can't take anything you say seriously as it just seems like this is a hobby of yours.		2010-12-01 23:32:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

Ok, I have played the game enough to write a review, so here it goes:

CAMPAIGN:
I have to say, the campaign in this game is awesome. I throws many epic moments at you. And it doesn't even look like CoD sometimes. Swimming in a river on Vietnam, driving a boat loaded with a machine gun and missiles, piloting a hind throught the skies and the interactive cutscenes are something that we haven't seen in any other CoD game. The story is a bit confusing, I still need to complete it more times to fully understand, but I have to say that it is really interesting. And surprising at the end. The fact that this is the first CoD game where you character talks and can be seen from 3rd person sometimes also adds to the feeling of innovation.

MULTIPLAYER:
Good and bad at the same time. The good part is that quickscoping, grenade launcher spamming, speed-knifing and all the nightmares from MW2 are gone. The bad part is that there are new ones: the bad spawning sistem (you can't have a clue of where the enemies will come from), and the instability (maybe it's just me, but it looks harder to land a shot at enemies because of lagging?).
I like the new buying sistem. Now I use attachments that I never dreamed of using, like extended mags or dual mags, because you can unlock them really quickly (considering that you have money).
The wager matches are cool too. It is good to go on the low-cost games and have some fun with the crazy rules. I even got 1st place on gun game twice! (ask ViniciusBR11 for more details).
So, for me, once the spawning and excessive lag is fixed, this will be the best CoD multiplayer ever!

ZOMBIES:
Ohhh, I missed the zombies from WaW. I really like the new zombie maps. It is awesome because I never had the chance of trying the DLC WaW maps. But there is only one flaw: the zombie mode looks harder than before. Zombies can still kill in two hits, but they hit faster. And throught windows! I would like a difficulty setting for zombie mode. Even if it was only easy and hard, but still. Anyway, it is really funny to play with 4 people!

GENERAL:
This is the best CoD so far. Epic campaign, balanced MP and awesome coop. The only flaws are the confusing story, the spawning problem and the zombie difficulty. But nothing that would kill the game.		2010-12-02 01:58:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

This is the best CoD so far. Epic campaign, balanced MP and awesome coop. The only flaws are the confusing story, the spawning problem and the zombie difficulty. But nothing that would kill the game.

I have to agree with everything but the Zombies difficulty. I actually like having them harder. World At War's Nazi Zombies were easy to advance in rounds. As more maps came along, advancing in rounds became harder but more fun. So I like the Black Ops's difficulty; it gives you a bigger challenge and it stops those online campers from trying to use a cheap tactic to get a higher score. 		2010-12-02 02:05:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

and the instability (maybe it's just me, but it looks harder to land a shot at enemies because of lagging?).

I have the Xbox 360 version, and I have heard there is quite a bit of lag on the PS3. So I can't say forsure, but just to clear any confusion. The game is ran on the same engine WaW runs on. Meaning you have to lead your bullets, a little ahead of the person if they're running. It's much more different then Modern Warfare 2. Maybe that's it? And if so then you'll get used to it.		2010-12-02 04:48:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

The game is ran on the same engine WaW runs on. Meaning you have to lead your bullets, a little ahead of the person if they're running. It's much more different then Modern Warfare 2. Maybe that's it? And if so then you'll get used to it.
Maybe that's it... Now, I'm using a more stationary tatic. Not camping, hiding behing cover and peeking out to shoot enemies ahead. We had and amazing game at "Array", where the whole team was at the snowy road with the truck and the crates, and the enemy team was at the uooer ground, so we had an amazing firefight! Hiding behind the truck, peeking out and shooting at the enemies, smoke grenades being used as they're supposed to be used, and no enemies coming from behind on either side. It was EPIC.		2010-12-02 13:51:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

Customization is customization, it doesn't matter if its coloring the gun, adding your own clan tag or emblem. Or changing your red dot sight, it's what people like, and this is shown by the record breaking sales and the million people on everyday, on weekdays.

And the only reason the game fosters those two emotions is because Call of Duty pushes you, it frustrates you, it's for the hardcore gamers (mainly.) The term "try hard" originated from Call of Duty, 99% of montages are created for Call of Duty. It's a game for the hardcore gamers. Call of Duty and Halo are the only two games I ever hear about in Gamebattles/MLG discussions.



It is balanced. Your just somehow blinded by this fact because of your biased opinion towards the franchise. Every type of gun excels in it's appropriate area. Sniper Rifles are meant for long range, while SMGs and Shotguns are used for short range, etc.

If you truly believe that a person that is doing well in a video game should be punished for it then I have to say no more. The one thing Modern Warfare 2 did that was horrible was award players that died in succession bonuses like Painkiller or Martyrdom. This is the wrong idea of going through any game.



True, a forum is a place for the free exchange of ideas, but your shoving your ideas down our throats. Stating your opinion as fact, the game is not trash. It's only trash to you (any many others I can only assume,) get your mind straight please. The fact that you posted three negative comments in this thread before anyone called you out on it just goes to prove that your only here to start a fight or seek attention. There is something called a civilized discussion but it's not possible with someone that continues to state opinion as cold hard fact. Call of Duty is a franchise that will probably last for a long long time, either get over it, get used to it, or continue to stress yourself out for no apparent reason at all. Your choice.

Your location says "Under the Bridge" so I can only assume you as a "troll" and your Interests are "Hating things" so I can't take anything you say seriously as it just seems like this is a hobby of yours.

I seem to always be accused of "Stating my opinion as fact" or "Shoving my view down everyones throats" for some reason. I suppose it's to do with how forcefully I can formulate my argument.
In the end all I am giving is my opinion, if you think my opinion is fact, then I obviously have a stronger opinion than your own if it can supercede it.
Why is it that everyone is entitled to their opinion except me?
I don't see the difference between you offering your opinion, and me offering mine. But for some reason, everyone else is entitled to their opinion, but I should shut up because I'm "forcing my opinion down peoples throats"?!
I genuinely can;t see the difference.

And I'm not stressed, you are maybe just mis-reading the tone. Think Charlie Brooker or David Mitchell, ie; righteous indignation about a completely unimportant topic.
If you reading my words makes it feel like I'm shoving them down your throat, then perhaps you need to get yourself some stronger opinions that can stand up to a little critism.

It'd be easy for you to dimiss me as a troll, because it means you don't have to answer any of the critisms, you can just dismiss them. It's true I like a good argument, I find them much more interesting to participate in than a self-congratulatory circle-jerk. This doesn;t make me a troll however, just because someone has a differing opinion than your own doesn;t make them a troll.

I just feel that the COD franchise is losing it's way - I was a big fan of the original COD, but they seem to be steadily moving away from all of the aspects that I found appealing from the first game.

It's not 'all' bad. The fact you can do a split-screen sign-in is good, the co-op zombies is good. But in an environemt where this game is being lauded as "The Greatest Game of All Time" - I feel the need to offer a contradictory appraisal.
It's actually a shallow, paper thin, annualised rehash of a formula that's been done to absolute death. Certainly not deserving of it's popularity.
But then, that's the way mass media works.. .the more generic and bland something is, the more it sells.
And the game is not balanced... if it was balanced then you wouldn't have one single player dominating the entire game, which is usually the case because of how the killstreak system works.

I'm also mad at Activision for buying up a load of devs and cancelling any project that couldn't be made into an annual franchise - so that they could concentrate on churning out this generic, formulaic tosh. There were so many titles in that cull that I would have loved to have seen get made. Instead we will now get COD in perpetuity (with no variety)

It's not healthy for the game industry for a title such as this to dominate the market the way it does... especially when it is so decidedly average.		2010-12-02 15:01:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

I made a group (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=684) for the brothers in arms to discuss the game. Feel free to join! 2010-12-02 15:40:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

I seem to always be accused of "Stating my opinion as fact" or "Shoving my view down everyones throats" for some reason. I suppose it's to do with how forcefully I can formulate my argument.
In the end all I am giving is my opinion, if you think my opinion is fact, then I obviously have a stronger opinion than your own if it can supercede it.
Why is it that everyone is entitled to their opinion except me?
I don't see the difference between you offering your opinion, and me offering mine. But for some reason, everyone else is entitled to their opinion, but I should shut up because I'm "forcing my opinion down peoples throats"?!
I genuinely can;t see the difference.

This is because you say things like "It's average at best, monotonous at worst." and don't include a simple phrase stating it's just your own opinion. It's the internet, there is no way of knowing how your expressing yourself.


And the game is not balanced... if it was balanced then you wouldn't have one single player dominating the entire game, which is usually the case because of how the killstreak system works.

The game is balanced. Did it ever occur to you that the single player "dominating" the game is doing that because he is genuinely talented/skilled at the game? You act like the killstreaks hunt and seek the enemy for you, and all you have to do is sit there and watch your kills stack up. The killstreak system works perfectly in this game, your killstreaks do not stack up. You are awarded an attack helicopter for killing 7 people without dying, for example. There should be an award for that, it's not an easy task at all. It takes lots of skill, concentration, and knowledge of your surroundings to achieve something like this, ESPECIALLY with Black Ops. I may of agreed with you on Modern Warfare 2 since the killstreaks would stack up but in this game they don't. You earn your killstreaks with gun kills, the only way to get a high amount of gun kills is to be good at the game.

I honestly don't see your point here. One person will ALWAYS be better then everyone else, in the entire world. Whether it be "greatest chess player" or "fastest driver" there is one person, throughout the entire world, that is better then us all at Call of Duty. Now, take "the entire world" and make it the size of a team death match lobby or what have you. You honestly don't think there is one person in that lobby of 8-16 players that is better then the rest? You don't think he deserves to be recognized at the top of the list at the end of the match?

I've put in almost a day of gameplay into this game and I can assure you that not every match has one player "dominating" the game. And if you give the game time (it's been less then a month for God's sake) the difference between skill levels will spread out and it will be more "balanced" in the ways your looking for.

It's like this for every game out there. When LBP2 comes out there will be people out there that have played the game for months, they will know more about the game then everyone else and will excel at level creation and playing. So shall I assume LBP2 is unbalanced? Just because he has put more time and effort into the game then me?

Don't get me wrong I love a good discussion from two different sides it makes it exciting for me and kills time/boredom. I'm not trying to tell you not to express your opinion but to include just that, your opinion.		2010-12-02 21:40:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

Gah, I hate the napalm strike.

First off, the game can't seem to handle it, and so every time one is called in, the whole game lags, which has gotten me killed so many times.
Secondly, the fire is so glitchy, you can walk through an area that has no fire anywhere near it, and still catch on fire and die.		2010-12-03 01:48:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

This game is really bad. I got to level 30 online and haven't touched it since. Resold.2010-12-03 03:18:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454

IMO, The new COD games get old extremely fast. As Ayneh said, in both Black Ops and MW2, After getting maybe halfway through the ranking system, i get bored and stop playing the game all together.

My main problems with the game is that the multi player is way to repetitive. It's pretty much the exact same thing as the last game and the game before that and the one before that, but with slightly different guns and maps. They added more unlocks to add to your guns and things, but they're pretty much pointless. All the maps IMO are too small and cramped. I hate that about the Cod games. It's like fighting in a closet with 10 guys with Rocket Launchers. There's really no point to using the sniper rifles in the maps available. All in all, the game is entertaining for a few days, but after that it's just like "Okay. . . so what's different?"

The Zombies are probably the only part about the COD games that I still enjoy playing every once in a while. The new "arcade" version of zombies, which is really just a knock off of Smash T.V. Is a pretty cool twist to the game, but other than that it's about the same exact concept but with different maps.

If you ask me, changing the maps, changing a few guns and adding more silly unlocks isn't that great of an improvement from the last game. The single player I can't speak much of since I only played the first few Missions and I wasn't all that interested in that aspect of the game.

All my opinion. Just throwing my thoughts in 		2010-12-03 03:36:00

Author:
iKyle94
Posts: 60

IMO, The new COD games get old extremely fast. As Ayneh said, in both Black Ops and MW2, After getting maybe halfway through the ranking system, i get bored and stop playing the game all together.

My main problems with the game is that the multi player is way to repetitive. It's pretty much the exact same thing as the last game and the game before that and the one before that, but with slightly different guns and maps. They added more unlocks to add to your guns and things, but they're pretty much pointless. All the maps IMO are too small and cramped. I hate that about the Cod games. It's like fighting in a closet with 10 guys with Rocket Launchers. There's really no point to using the sniper rifles in the maps available. All in all, the game is entertaining for a few days, but after that it's just like "Okay. . . so what's different?"
This was my first COD game. I dunno how it compares to previous COD games, but yeah...

I haven't played many FPS games. I think Quake 1 and 3, Timesplitters, Medal of Honor, Red Faction 1 (used to play that one with mates a lot, not sure would've played it much otherwise), Killzone 1 and 2, UT, ArmA, Red Orchestra/Darkest Hour and various Battlefield games. 10-15 games tops? That's all I can think of unless you include Amiga FPS games like Terminator, though they weren't 3D. I get on well with Red Orchestra and the Battlefield series.		2010-12-03 04:08:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454

Gah, I hate the napalm strike.

First off, the game can't seem to handle it, and so every time one is called in, the whole game lags, which has gotten me killed so many times.
Secondly, the fire is so glitchy, you can walk through an area that has no fire anywhere near it, and still catch on fire and die.

Oh my God I know. Try using a napalm strike on Summit, put it on top of the building in the middle, it'll break all the glass and major lag will be caused, it's funny.

Also. I thought I would add two videos that are pretty helpful for those who Prestige or use Hardline Pro.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkiZ8eGbvYI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU1ikND31Es		2010-12-03 07:02:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

I remember when I used to play BF2 on my computer. (I still have it installed!)
I can say, Battlefield and CoD are very different. I enjoyed grabbing a tank or a gunship in BF and riding into the enemy base shooting around like crazy, but the gunfights were a bit flawed. (at least in big maps) All everyone did was run around and if they spot an enemy, stop and shoot. Cod cramps the maps a bit, making firefights more exciting. (you don't have to run for 1 minute to reach the fight, just to die from a random sniper on the way). Both games have their pros and cons, battlefield is more slowly paced while CoD is fastly paced.		2010-12-03 09:33:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

Regarding Killstreak Balances

All you need to do is find a hiding hole, wait till you get the attack chopper and then watch as your kills rack up.
My mate who plays nothing else but this knows where all of the hiding holes are, so if I just stick with him, we both soon have the attack chopper streak, and as long as no-one rockets it, you rack up the kills. When you've got 50 kills and 3 deaths and all you've done is hide... how can you call that balanced?
I actually feel cheated when it's me at the top of the leaderboard, because all I've done is use dirty tactics to get there - and if you don't use dirty tactics, then you can't win against those guys that are.

The game just isn't "fun" - that's the element it is missing... everything else that an FPS should have is there in the game - but not the "sense of fun" - which is why I play games.
After going back to Battlefield, it's like night & day. Within minutes of going back to Battlefield I had a big smile on my face at how I had just blown up an entire building full of the enemy. Battlefield certainly has that sense of fun, and of freedom, and squad tactics. & that's what you want from a team multiplayer.
Instead of the cramped, claustraphobic, run & gun gameplay from COD.		2010-12-03 14:26:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

& that's what you want from a team multiplayer.
Instead of the cramped, claustraphobic, run & gun gameplay from COD.

No that is what you want, that is your opinion. Other people may love the style of COD and want battlefield and other games to play more like COD does, but again that would be their opinion.		2010-12-03 16:14:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

No that is what you want, that is your opinion. Other people may love the style of COD and want battlefield and other games to play more like COD does, but again that would be their opinion.

& The LBPC Award for "Stating the Obvious" goes to ... *drumroll* ... Robotoid, for his innocuous "What you say is your opinion" comment. Congratulations Robotiod! Take a bow.
Now tell us, How did you manage to come up with such an obvious statement? - I'm sure your fans are eager to know. 		2010-12-03 16:17:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

& The LBPC Award for "Stating the Obvious" goes to ... *drumroll* ... Robotoid, for his innocuous "What you say is your opinion" comment. Congratulations Robotiod! Take a bow.
Now tell us, How did you manage to come up with such an obvious statement? - I'm sure your fans are eager to know.

Wow that was the most funny thing I have ever read, congratulations on literally making me cry from the pain caused when my sides split from the fit of laughter that you induced. seriously you are so hilarious my life might as well be over because I have nothing left to live for, I will never laugh as hard as I have just had.



the fact is the way you stated your opinion in is a manner where someone who disagrees with you actually looks like they hate gaming, the fact is when you state an opinion and you place words such as "what you want" not only makes you look like a moron but makes you look like you frown upon other peoples opinions. It has already been stated previously in the thread that you are writing in a manner where your opinion is stated as cold hard fact, but I tell you what here is a fact, no one cares about your opinion. They did care but they don't any more, at this point you are just trolling a thread about a game that you have already made clear you don't want to play. None of us in this thread or on this site for that matter are forcing you to;

A) Play the game, if you don't want to play t just don't play it.
b) Write in this thread, you have already made your opinions very clear, why don't you just leave now and have it over with and have the discussion on this thread be for people who actually enjoy the game and want to have a nice discussion about it.

...		2010-12-03 16:59:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

@Macnme - Are you seriously gonna linger around this thread cramming your opinions down our throats? Your obviously hurling your complaints at the wrong people (A group of fun loving COD fanboys) 2010-12-03 17:05:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

It is balanced. Your just somehow blinded by this fact because of your biased opinion towards the franchise. Every type of gun excels in it's appropriate area. Sniper Rifles are meant for long range, while SMGs and Shotguns are used for short range, etc.
I disagree, the sniper rifles are crappy because of the huge sway and I think the SMG's are overpowered.		2010-12-03 17:05:00

Author:
lifeiscrapislife
Posts: 396

Wow that was the most funny thing I have ever read, congratulations on literally making me cry from the pain caused when my sides split from the fit of laughter that you induced. seriously you are so hilarious my life might as well be over because I have nothing left to live for, I will never laugh as hard as I have just had.



the fact is the way you stated your opinion in is a manner where someone who disagrees with you actually looks like they hate gaming, the fact is when you state an opinion and you place words such as "what you want" not only makes you look like a moron but makes you look like you frown upon other peoples opinions. It has already been stated previously in the thread that you are writing in a manner where your opinion is stated as cold hard fact, but I tell you what here is a fact, no one cares about your opinion. They did care but they don't any more, at this point you are just trolling a thread about a game that you have already made clear you don't want to play. None of us in this thread or on this site for that matter are forcing you to;

A) Play the game, if you don't want to play t just don't play it.
b) Write in this thread, you have already made your opinions very clear, why don't you just leave now and have it over with and have the discussion on this thread be for people who actually enjoy the game and want to have a nice discussion about it.

...

My opinion is fact.
The fact is that this is my opinion. I have never claimed anything otherwise.
And if you want a forum to just be a place where people say "this a great game" "Yes, it is a great game, I agree" - then the conversation is over in 2 posts, and noone need repeat anything.
And where else should I be posting about my gripes with COD:BO, than in a thread dedicated to it specifically?

There are also several underlying factors regarding the making and release of this game that has wider implications on the gaming industry at large, which is what I am commenting on a mojority of the time, when not drawn into pedantic specifics regarding minor aspects of the game itself.

I'll post what I like, no-one is ;
A) Forcing you to read it.
B) Forcing you to reply to it.

If I do a better job than you of conveying my opinion, so that it appears to you as irrefutable fact, then maybe you should join a debating team or something and brush up on your argumentative skills, rather than trying to end the argument by essentially saying "GET OUT!" - that's very mature.
And I was having a nice discussion, until you guys started accusing me of being a troll, which I'm not, I'm just offering my opinion. You are entitled to yours, even if it is wrong. 		2010-12-03 17:08:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

I disagree, the sniper rifles are crappy because of the huge sway and I think the SMG's are overpowered.

My opinion has changed on sniper rifles recently. On MW2 anyone could pick one up and do well, youv'e got to be committed to sniping and putting up with a lot of **** on this one. Yeh I can do better with any other gun, but I enjoy sniping much more and it's starting to show, I actually WIN my games now.		2010-12-03 17:11:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

My opinion is fact.
The fact is that this is my opinion. I have never claimed anything otherwise.
And if you want a forum to just be a place where people say "this a great game" "Yes, it is a great game, I agree" - then the conversation is over in 2 posts, and noone need repeat anything.

There are also several underlying factors regarding the making and release of this game that has wider implication on the gaming industry, which is what I am commenting on a mojority of the time, when not drawn into pedantic specifics regarding minor aspects of the game itself.

I'll post what I like, no is ;
A) Forcing you to read
B) Forcing you to reply

And I was having a nice discussion, until you guys started accusing me of being a troll, which I'm not, I'm just offering my opinion. You are entitled to yours, even if it is wrong.

I totally agree about the way Activision games are produced, I think it is shameful and stupid, they have many notable franchises and they release in some cases more than on game a year in that franchise, and then they do nothing but bring out crazily overpriced DLC, however I would believe this should have a thread all on its own because although COD is a prime example of their business practices it is not the only example.

I personally would love to see what people think about it but this thread is about a game singular and not necessarily about a companies business practises.		2010-12-03 17:14:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I found my first big issue: Veteran difficulty.

The first two missions are piece of cake, but once you reach the last parts of "Executive Order" it becomes a nighmare. Enemies can kill you in 2 seconds from 50 meters away with blindfire, and you're forced to run right into the infinite enemy spawn point in order to continue the mission. And sometimes chekpoints are too spaced out. I'm starting to give up trying to get platinum for this one... 		2010-12-03 21:37:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

I found my first big issue: Veteran difficulty.

The first two missions are piece of cake, but once you reach the last parts of "Executive Order" it becomes a nighmare. Enemies can kill you in 2 seconds from 50 meters away with blindfire, and you're forced to run right into the infinite enemy spawn point in order to continue the mission. And sometimes chekpoints are too spaced out. I'm starting to give up trying to get platinum for this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSZWHT0n4mg		2010-12-04 00:34:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

Just gonna throw it out there - this game is not the most balanced FPS. BFBC2 is probably more balanced, especially now that the M60 has been nerfed. CoD2 was fantastic for balance, i dunno there are a few i could mention that would be better...

As for the BFBC2 controls being 'clunky' or 'heavy', you aren't the only person (Whaaaale) i've heard say that. I wouldn't agree though, they are slower but that helps the balance of the game. It's meant to be more tactical and the controls suit it. I prefer it that way, so i don't have a problem. If you like CoD then i can see why you wouldn't like it I guess. The maps are massive as well, and i like that. Something seems far more fun to me when i have options, rather than being forced into small alleys and corridors, with open spaces interspersed randomly. A map like Oasis (which is a fantastic map from BC1, and has just been made a free download for BC2) is, in my opinion, far, far better than say, Jungle or Cracked (i think one of the maps is cracked in CoD...) It has managed to be a game in which the weapons are all balanced and do their job, but nothing more, where vehicles can be a massive advantage if you use them right, but equally you can counter them just as easily if you work as a team.

I guess that is what the difference is though, CoD is very much a game for 'lon wolf' style players - even in objective game modes you can play on your own and win. BFBC2 does require teamwork, and if you are in a full squad of 4 you are likely to beat any team of random players. I prefer teamwork, hence i prefer BFBC2 (and MAG)		2010-12-04 20:27:00

Author:
Unknown User

I love BFBC2! Especially failing piloting the black hawks.

*Black hawk down!"

However, CoD is still fun. They should put in a killstreak with Bear Grylls. Possibly when you get 25 kills?

"Tatical Bear incoming! It's all over!"

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_02/bearDM2307_468x264.jpg		2010-12-04 22:12:00

Author:
AgentBanana
Posts: 511

All you need to do is find a hiding hole, wait till you get the attack chopper and then watch as your kills rack up.
My mate who plays nothing else but this knows where all of the hiding holes are, so if I just stick with him, we both soon have the attack chopper streak, and as long as no-one rockets it, you rack up the kills. When you've got 50 kills and 3 deaths and all you've done is hide... how can you call that balanced?
I actually feel cheated when it's me at the top of the leaderboard, because all I've done is use dirty tactics to get there - and if you don't use dirty tactics, then you can't win against those guys that are.

You have no idea what you are saying, at all. I'm sorry but you have got to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen. But I'll play along with you and run you another example of what your telling me.

According to you, the tanks in Battlefield Bad Company 2 are overpowered, they are unbalanced, how dare they put those in the game, nerf them, ASAP. Why do I say that? Let's run through your statement.


All you need to do is find a hiding hole, wait till you get the attack chopper and then watch as your kills rack up.


All you need to do is walk up to a vehicle, and then watch as your kills rack up.


My mate who plays nothing else but this knows where all of the hiding holes are, so if I just stick with him, we both soon have the attack chopper streak, and as long as no-one rockets it, you rack up the kills.


My mate who plays nothing else but this knows where all the vehicles are, so if I just stick with him, we both soon have a bunch of kills, and as long as no-one rockets my tank, you rack up the kills.


When you've got 50 kills and 3 deaths and all you've done is hide... how can you call that balanced?


When you've got 50 kills and 3 deaths and all you've done is sit in a tank... how can you call that balanced?


I actually feel cheated when it's me at the top of the leaderboard, because all I've done is use dirty tactics to get there - and if you don't use dirty tactics, then you can't win against those guys that are.


I actually feel cheated when it's me at the top of the leaderboard, because all I've done is use vehicles to get there - and if you don't use tanks, then you can't win against those who do.

Surely you understand that it takes 1-2 rocket(s) to destroy the attack helicopter. Who's fault is it that your attack helicopter is getting kills? Yours? Or the entire enemy team that doesn't bother switching to a Default Class, shooting the helicopter, and walking away.		2010-12-05 02:51:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

To be fair, being any good in the tanks/choppers/whatever takes a fair amount of skill, anyone who doesn't use them a lot is going down fast, especially when teams have dedicated Engineers (like me, i love blowing things up...). And if the team doesn't bother taking them out, it deserves to be raped. On the other hand, you don't need skill to do well with the chopper gunner on CoD, just just hope no one has an RPG.

Both work because both are different styles of game.		2010-12-05 03:05:00

Author:
Unknown User

To be fair, being any good in the tanks/choppers/whatever takes a fair amount of skill, anyone who doesn't use them a lot is going down fast, especially when teams have dedicated Engineers (like me, i love blowing things up...). And if the team doesn't bother taking them out, it deserves to be raped. On the other hand, you don't need skill to do well with the chopper gunner on CoD, just just hope no one has an RPG.

Both work because both are different styles of game.

I played BattleField once and got about 20 kills with a tank, and it was my first time. You say if a team doesn't bother taking it out, they deserve to be raped. Well don't you think that applies to Attack Helicopters as well?

EDIT: I love Treyarch.

# Gameplay Tuning:
# • Limit the ability to re-roll supply drops using Hardline Pro to Care Packages only, no other killstreak drops.
# • Added a negative influencer to all spawn points to decrease the chances of spawning near an enemy. This will further improve spawning protection on top of previous updates.
# • Additional sound mix tuning for Ninja Pro users – increased ranges and volume of enemy footsteps, and removed player footstep sounds on concrete material types.
# • Increased headshot multipliers for sniper rifles. Sniper rifles with suppressors equipped will now always be ensured one-shot kill headshots.
# • Subtle increase in sniper rifle accuracy when scoping in.
# • Added a render delay to the red diamond player indicators that appear when controlling the Gunship, Valkyrie Rocket and Chopper Gunner. When a player first spawns, this will not appear for a period of time.
# • Additional minor reductions in knife lunge.

Quickscoping has actually gotten a lot easier now. 		2010-12-05 03:15:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

# • Additional minor reductions in knife lunge.
I love how they just reduce it instead of just taking lunge out all together. No matter how much they reduce it, it will still SUCK.

And also, dang, I gotta get Hardline Pro soon, I wanna be re-rerolling tons of stuff, not just the CP.		2010-12-05 03:43:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

I love how they just reduce it instead of just taking lunge out all together. No matter how much they reduce it, it will still SUCK.

And also, dang, I gotta get Hardline Pro soon, I wanna be re-rerolling tons of stuff, not just the CP.

Umm no, they made it so you can only reroll the carepackage. The glitch was that you could reroll tons of stuff. 		2010-12-05 03:48:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

Umm no, they made it so you can only reroll the carepackage. The glitch was that you could reroll tons of stuff.
That's what I said :o

What I meant, was that I should get Hardline Pro before the patch hits, so I can reroll anything 		2010-12-05 03:58:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

That's what I said :o

What I meant, was that I should get Hardline Pro before the patch hits, so I can reroll anything

Pretty sure patch already hit? I'm not sure though. If not then I can't wait till Snipers get improved, because I did pretty good today. I'll check though.		2010-12-05 04:03:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

I played BattleField once and got about 20 kills with a tank, and it was my first time. You say if a team doesn't bother taking it out, they deserve to be raped. Well don't you think that applies to Attack Helicopters as well?

EDIT: I love Treyarch.

# Gameplay Tuning:
# • Limit the ability to re-roll supply drops using Hardline Pro to Care Packages only, no other killstreak drops.
# • Added a negative influencer to all spawn points to decrease the chances of spawning near an enemy. This will further improve spawning protection on top of previous updates.
# • Additional sound mix tuning for Ninja Pro users – increased ranges and volume of enemy footsteps, and removed player footstep sounds on concrete material types.
# • Increased headshot multipliers for sniper rifles. Sniper rifles with suppressors equipped will now always be ensured one-shot kill headshots.
# • Subtle increase in sniper rifle accuracy when scoping in.
# • Added a render delay to the red diamond player indicators that appear when controlling the Gunship, Valkyrie Rocket and Chopper Gunner. When a player first spawns, this will not appear for a period of time.
# • Additional minor reductions in knife lunge.

Quickscoping has actually gotten a lot easier now.

This.

My main reason why I stick to Black Ops more often than BC2 is, because Treyarch actually listens to the community and patches any problems they might find. MW2 was fully capable of being an excellent game, but the developers were both ignorant and lazy to do anything.		2010-12-05 04:04:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Pretty sure patch already hit? I'm not sure though. If not then I can't wait till Snipers get improved, because I did pretty good today. I'll check though.
According to digitalwarfare:


IN PROGRESS - Currently in Phase 2, Phase 3 on Monday 6th Dec

So it's coming out soon.

Also, funny thing just happened. On my road to Hardline Pro, I've been trying to get the 10 Share Packages thingy. But, it seems everyone I play with is oblivious and don't feel like getting some extra XP for free. FINALLY I found a cool guy who actually already had hardline pro. He was a pretty cool guy, and he rerolled my garbage into all sorts of destructive killstreaks.

One mans junk is another mans treasure. 		2010-12-05 04:17:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

One mans junk is another mans treasure.

Too right.

Anyways, my problems are finnaly solved! today I got into a game, and then I turned my system off, and then I came back, AND I DIDN'T GO BACK TO LEVEL 9! too bad I'm terrible at CoD.		2010-12-05 05:23:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135

This.

My main reason why I stick to Black Ops more often than BC2 is, because Treyarch actually listens to the community and patches any problems they might find. MW2 was fully capable of being an excellent game, but the developers were both ignorant and lazy to do anything.

Oh and those were just the Gameplay Tunings.

Issues Addressed:
# ? Resolved several issues with parties getting disbanded unexpectedly.
# ? Updated handling for UPnP-enabled routers to improve matchmaking conditions where users had strict or moderate NAT types. Also added in-game communications so that all players are aware of their NAT type in the Player Match party lobby.
# ? Addressed issue that prevented the ?Load MP by Default? option from saving when other specific option combinations were set.
# ? Prevention of exploit that allowed players to keep custom classes and killstreaks after prestige.
# ? Addressed an issue where Flak Jacket Pro would not always protect against ground fires left by Napalm Strikes.
# ? Prevention of users losing their killstreak reward when switching classes at the start of a new round in round-based game modes.
# ? Addressed an issue where the incorrect perks would appear when spectating another player under certain circumstances.
# ? Added round start explosive delay to China Lake grenade launcher to give it the same round start limitations as other explosives.
# ? Contracts will now reset when the player Prestiges.
# ? Prevention of Valkyrie rocket exploding upon release under rare conditions.
# ? Prevention of Gunship failing to give player full control under rare conditions.
# ? Prevention of an issue where a player will get teleported outside the map boundaries under very specific circumstances.
# ? Additional security measures to enhance detection and banning capabilities.		2010-12-05 08:49:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

Spawning tweaks, better snipers (in a good way), no more knifing from 5 meters and no more disbanded matches?

I NEED THAT UPDATE!!!		2010-12-05 10:03:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

This.

My main reason why I stick to Black Ops more often than BC2 is, because Treyarch actually listens to the community and patches any problems they might find. MW2 was fully capable of being an excellent game, but the developers were both ignorant and lazy to do anything.

I don't think Infinity Ward are lazy, you have to remember Activision own them and if they want them to work on map packs instead then they will. But I must admit Treyarch try harder to help their community.

Infinity Ward are imo better developers at making the actual games. I'm not calling Black Ops bad but I had more fun with Call of Duty 4.. etc..

Still gotta love that "five" mission.		2010-12-05 11:23:00

Author:
AgentBanana
Posts: 511

This.

My main reason why I stick to Black Ops more often than BC2 is, because Treyarch actually listens to the community and patches any problems they might find. MW2 was fully capable of being an excellent game, but the developers were both ignorant and lazy to do anything.

DICE are probably one of the best for listening to the community in mind mind. There's been a lot of patching and the like, along with new gamemodes (onslaught - co-op awesomeness) and soon a whole new 'era' in Vietnam. Yeah you gotta pay, but i bet the BO DLC is more expensive, just because it can be.

I'm not saying i dislike Black Ops, just that i prefer BC2. And yes Whaaaale, if you got 20 kills in your first attempt in a tank, the other team must have been atrocious, or you are a god.

Anyways, i'll stick it back in after the patch and see what it is like.		2010-12-05 13:22:00

Author:
Unknown User

DICE are probably one of the best for listening to the community in mind mind. There's been a lot of patching and the like, along with new gamemodes (onslaught - co-op awesomeness) and soon a whole new 'era' in Vietnam. Yeah you gotta pay, but i bet the BO DLC is more expensive, just because it can be.

I'm not saying i dislike Black Ops, just that i prefer BC2. And yes Whaaaale, if you got 20 kills in your first attempt in a tank, the other team must have been atrocious, or you are a god.

Anyways, i'll stick it back in after the patch and see what it is like.

Well to be honest, I love BC2. My only problem with that is that it's a team based game, and while I try to help out the team, there's just a lot of people on there who try to do stuff on their own. CoD pretty much makes you rely on yourself more, so I go there because the lack of teamwork I see when I get on BC2.

Other than that, I do agree that both companies are good in listening to their communities. The DLC, however, is a bit annoying. Majority of the WaW community bought those $15 dollar map packs just for one map (AKA Nazi Zombies maps), so I found that way too overpriced. Of course, Treyarch was just playing smart at the time, so you can't blame them :/		2010-12-06 02:58:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I played Black Ops today.

It was boring after about 40 minutes.


I dunno if it was my friend's settings, but the strafe is dead slow.


But, I did get two consecutive kills with the shotgun. (two guys beside each other)


And..

Nuketown is LAME. ;-;		2010-12-06 03:32:00

Author:
Fishrock123
Posts: 1578

I just went 38/2 doing CTF on Firing Range with an AK47 and got all the caps.
Using no killstreaks, no camping, no glitching, just running to get the flags and clearing my path.

I PUT THAT TEAM ON MAH BACK.


You can have your teamwork, your teamwork can't beat me.

I'm a one man army.		2010-12-06 03:45:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

Well to be honest, I love BC2. My only problem with that is that it's a team based game, and while I try to help out the team, there's just a lot of people on there who try to do stuff on their own. CoD pretty much makes you rely on yourself more, so I go there because the lack of teamwork I see when I get on BC2.
*having a flashback of one of the best moments of teamwork in BF2 where we humiliated the other team*

Other than that, I do agree that both companies are good in listening to their communities. The DLC, however, is a bit annoying. Majority of the WaW community bought those $15 dollar map packs just for one map (AKA Nazi Zombies maps), so I found that way too overpriced. Of course, Treyarch was just playing smart at the time, so you can't blame them :/
Yes.
They could at least release a bundle with only the zombie packs, would sell a lot. Also, does anyone remember when you didn't had the pack and you were kicked out of games because it was about to be in one of these maps?		2010-12-06 09:27:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

So uh, I decided to revive this thread. Maybe because I was bored? (>-_-)>

So yeah. How 'bout 'em Zombies? I went to round 20 with someone else online (it was a 2 player match/game) on Dead Ops Arcade.		2011-01-08 10:34:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

So uh, I decided to revive this thread. Maybe because I was bored? (>-_-)>

So yeah. How 'bout 'em Zombies? I went to round 20 with someone else online (it was a 2 player match/game) on Dead Ops Arcade.

I got to level 26 with a random dude online on Kino der Toten, and I think it was round 32 on dead ops with two other people. I don't know why people don't play dead ops, its extremely fun.		2011-01-08 10:36:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I can't play zombies because I die fast and I get nightmares... lol

I enjoy the wager matches though. 		2011-01-08 19:44:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

I got to level 26 with a random dude online on Kino der Toten, and I think it was round 32 on dead ops with two other people. I don't know why people don't play dead ops, its extremely fun.

It bores me to tears... ;_;

But it's nice that Treyarch can please a larger audience by adding more minigames like that. Dead Ops Arcade was pretty unexpected.		2011-01-08 19:48:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

So uh, I decided to revive this thread. Maybe because I was bored? (>-_-)>

So yeah. How 'bout 'em Zombies? I went to round 20 with someone else online (it was a 2 player match/game) on Dead Ops Arcade.

I went to round 30 on dead ops with my brother, and I've solo'd to 27 on Kino Der Toten, and 12 on "Five".

If anyone ever wants to play zombies, send me a friend request. My private non-LBP PSN account is "KlawwTheClown."

By the way, has anyone made any good classes that you haven't really seen around (I mean, combos of attachments/perks)?


MAC11 @ Rapid Fire & Grip
ASP (Highest firing rate and can shoot the same speed as FAMAS).
Frag Grenade
Flash Grenade
Tactical Insertion (To plant in a hiding spot by their flag)
Scavenger Pro (MUST HAVE. MAC11 runs out of ammo fast)
Warlord Pro (This + Scavenger = INFINITE GRENADES, and you can hold 2 at once)
Marathon Pro (To rush to their flag right as the match starts)

The only downside is frequent reloads, but if you need to fight multiple enemies, the ASP is beast. 		2011-01-09 01:53:00

Author:
KlawwTheClown
Posts: 1106

By the way, has anyone made any good classes that you haven't really seen around (I mean, combos of attachments/perks)?

MAC11 @ Rapid Fire & Grip
ASP (Highest firing rate and can shoot the same speed as FAMAS).
Frag Grenade
Flash Grenade
Tactical Insertion (To plant in a hiding spot by their flag)
Scavenger Pro (MUST HAVE. MAC11 runs out of ammo fast)
Warlord Pro (This + Scavenger = INFINITE GRENADES, and you can hold 2 at once)
Marathon Pro (To rush to their flag right as the match starts)

The only downside is frequent reloads, but if you need to fight multiple enemies, the ASP is beast.


The MAC looks like it's made of cardboard... It just bugs me, then I look at the gun too much, don't pay attention to the game, and get shot...

Anyway, my CTF class is somewhat close to yours:

Kiparis - Extended Mags
Ballistic Knife
Tomahawk
Flash Grenade
Tactical Insertion
Scavenger Pro
Sleight of Hand Pro
Marathon Pro

I also just love running around with an Explosives class:

Galil - ACOG Scope, Extended Mags (?)
RPG
Frag Grenade
Flash Grenade
C-4
Flak Jacket - So I don't kill myself by some terrible RPG shot, frag throw, or C-4 trigger...
Warlord Pro
Hacker Pro (?)

Can't remember exactly, but it's fun. 		2011-01-09 02:36:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

I still like to play MW2 quite frequently, at first it was because my mates where going on it, but then I got pulled in somewhere along the way... I know, I hate myself for it.2011-01-09 02:55:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

I only play capture the flag when it comes into the team tactical rotation, although I play more of a support role. Get my air support up and someone with lightweight marathon pro will be able to easily capture the flags.


I must say though I don't like the pro perk systems. Due to the fact I actually want to get to 15th prestige I have been prestiging. The only one of the perks I use that I can get to pro without trying is Steady Aim. It doesn't help when I always use Hardline, Steady aim and Hacker

Although I don't see the point on me getting hardline pro or hacker pro XD		2011-01-09 12:20:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I went to round 30 on dead ops with my brother, and I've solo'd to 27 on Kino Der Toten, and 12 on "Five".

If anyone ever wants to play zombies, send me a friend request. My private non-LBP PSN account is "KlawwTheClown."

By the way, has anyone made any good classes that you haven't really seen around (I mean, combos of attachments/perks)?


MAC11 @ Rapid Fire & Grip
ASP (Highest firing rate and can shoot the same speed as FAMAS).
Frag Grenade
Flash Grenade
Tactical Insertion (To plant in a hiding spot by their flag)
Scavenger Pro (MUST HAVE. MAC11 runs out of ammo fast)
Warlord Pro (This + Scavenger = INFINITE GRENADES, and you can hold 2 at once)
Marathon Pro (To rush to their flag right as the match starts)

The only downside is frequent reloads, but if you need to fight multiple enemies, the ASP is beast.


Eh:

AK47fu2 (That's the actual class name)
AK47u with Red Dot Sight
Pistol (forgot the name D=)
Claymore
Frag Grenade (to get some more distance than the Semtex)
Nova Gas
Lightweight
Fast of Hand Pro
Tactical Mask

I named it after the PaP'ed AK47u in Zombies. I've been getting some good K/D ratios with it, but just recently (after I customized it using CP to buy most of the stuff). Other than that, getting good K/D is hard in the beginning with all the default classes being crappy guns (MP5 barely an exception). ;-;		2011-01-11 00:16:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I have no problem destroying people using the MP5K, the last 2 times I have prestiged I have gotten to level 5 by the end of the match by getting great games with the MP5K. Compared to the other default weapons its incredible.2011-01-11 09:09:00

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robotiod
Posts: 2662

So, anyone want to go online and play some Zombies with me? >_>2011-01-14 23:10:00

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CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I played yesterday for 15 hours straight, I loved the single player mode but the multiplayer is lower than the Modern Warfare 2 but the zombie mode is very good when played with more people, especially 4, even more fun solo with 4 controls.2011-01-15 17:05:00

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Cauan-XV
Posts: 491

I played yesterday for 15 hours straight, I loved the single player mode but the multiplayer is lower than the Modern Warfare 2 but the zombie mode is very good when played with more people, especially 4, even more fun solo with 4 controls.

lol, my opinion is exactly the opposite of yours (except Zombies). 		2011-01-15 23:58:00

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CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I played yesterday for 15 hours straight, I loved the single player mode but the multiplayer is lower than the Modern Warfare 2 but the zombie mode is very good when played with more people, especially 4, even more fun solo with 4 controls.


lol, my opinion is exactly the opposite of yours (except Zombies).

I agree with Cyber. I was never interested in the campaign, I finished 2 missions in Black Ops and a whopping 4 in MW2. Not because I'm terrible, but because I just didn't like it.

The online is Black Ops (to me) is better because it has:

1. More... more everything
2. Less cheap deaths
3. Customization galore		2011-01-16 00:07:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

lol, my opinion is exactly the opposite of yours (except Zombies).

Did you not like the campaign? I thought it was the best campaign in the series.
I do love the multiplayer. I got prestige 5 today XD		2011-01-16 00:11:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I just beat the campaign on veteran, but didn't get the trophy to prove it, because of the old veteran trophy glitch. I have to repeat the first 3 levels until I get it.

It was the second CoD campaign that I ever completed, next to WaW. (Back when you needed to beat the game to unlock Nazi Zombies.)

By the way, just wanted to say that the "Ascension" map's location was confirmed as a Soviet Launch facility, which is speculated to be the Baikonur Cosmodrome from campaign mode, where the Ascension group of Nazi scientists were. (Shocker.) - Source (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=179925665375432)

There's also some theories that the Cosmic Silverback or his "Many brothers" will appear, due to a hidden magazine found in "Five", and a Primate-version of the "Vitruvian Man" on the GKNOVA6 Black Ops zombies site.

@CyberSora:

You can add me for some zombies if you want. I'm not the best, but I at least know all of the general: Don't kill the crawler, finish each kill with a knife if you're not surrounded, etc. And my highest round on solo is 27. Then I killed myself. (24 on 4 player...)		2011-01-16 01:42:00

Author:
KlawwTheClown
Posts: 1106

The online is Black Ops (to me) is better because it has:

1. More... more everything
2. Less cheap deaths
3. Customization galore

Same here, but 2 gets annoying because of the horrible spawn system (especially in Nuketown). As for 3, I love it!


Did you not like the campaign? I thought it was the best campaign in the series.
I do love the multiplayer. I got prestige 5 today XD

No lie, it was the best campaign in the CoD series yet... but that still doesn't mean it had a good story (I had more fun on Resistance's campaign than on any CoD game). The ending, however, was good. Kept me thinking even after I turned the game off (referring to the clip before John F. Kennedy is shot). Deep stuff man....

Oh, and congrats on the Prestige! I haven't Prestiged myself yet, but that's because I'm too lazy to stop playing Zombies for one second.


@CyberSora:

You can add me for some zombies if you want. I'm not the best, but I at least know all of the general: Don't kill the crawler, finish each kill with a knife if you're not surrounded, etc. And my highest round on solo is 27. Then I killed myself. (24 on 4 player...)

Two things:

1) They should have let the Silverback just be an Easter Egg/joke. They're ruining the their actually good story by trying to including it in there. That's saying a lot considering CoD stories aren't exactly great.

-and-

2) Alright! I got me self a Zombie slaying buddy! And don't worry, by the looks of it you're better than me. 		2011-01-16 11:30:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

The cosmic silverback will be horrible to face. Sounds good though.2011-01-16 11:59:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAquguzByaU

map is black and white untill you turn on the power.		2011-01-29 20:17:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well, found a leaked video of actual gameplay. Man, this guy's not very good...

Buys a rifle right away, and doesn't even go for a revive.

Anywho, ze doctor is still there, as proven by his voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeFnjqj-z-I

It wouldn't let me embed it for some reason.		2011-01-30 01:13:00

Author:
KlawwTheClown
Posts: 1106

The map looks claustrophobic. Wonder if that rotating thing can kill zombies...2011-01-30 18:41:00

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gdn001
Posts: 5891


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