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Just wondering.... would anyone actually want another game of this? I'd be quite interested in hosting it, though I'd probably give it some time before actually starting again (few weeks to a month perhaps) to give people a breather. I have a few ideas for new roles to use (none of which I have divulged to you, FreeAim ). As you said, people need a bit time to breath now. A few weeks should do. Also, don't add the Trader role. Just don't.

2013-10-02 11:13:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Just wondering.... would anyone actually want another game of this? I'd be quite interested in hosting it, though I'd probably give it some time before actually starting again (few weeks to a month perhaps) to give people a breather. I have a few ideas for new roles to use (none of which I have divulged to you, FreeAim ). I think we are definitely going to need some time. People are gradually losing interest in this, as evidenced by the dwindling number of players. I, for one, am a little tired of playing all these games back to back. And I agree with not implementing the trader again. It's just a huge screw you to the civilians. There's no way of knowing if one of the lynched "civilians" is actually mafia, or if one of the lynched "mafiosos" is actually a civilian. The trader just adds an unnecessary amount of mistery and tension to a game that is already pretty darn misterious and tense by nature. Oh and FreeAim, you should change the title of the thread to "Day 5". It still says "Night 4".

2013-10-02 12:16:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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As you said, people need a bit time to breath now. A few weeks should do. Also, don't add the Trader role. Just don't. Wow. Why not? It's a very cool role. Might not have worked out for your game, but for mine there was a lot of discussion about it.

2013-10-02 13:22:00 Author: jarreguin001 Posts: 351

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Isn't Butter the priest? He implied he wasn't convinced about Shooter being mafia, and said he had some sort of "backup" to help with the situation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIxtKCAkokw Also if Amoney is mafia. Who next?

2013-10-02 16:03:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I think we are definitely going to need some time. People are gradually losing interest in this, as evidenced by the dwindling number of players. I, for one, am a little tired of playing all these games back to back. And I agree with not implementing the trader again. It's just a huge screw you to the civilians. There's no way of knowing if one of the lynched "civilians" is actually mafia, or if one of the lynched "mafiosos" is actually a civilian. The trader just adds an unnecessary amount of mistery and tension to a game that is already pretty darn misterious and tense by nature. Oh and FreeAim, you should change the title of the thread to "Day 5". It still says "Night 4". I just posted that if Butter was the priest, he'd use his powers to save jar. Why does everyone ignore me in the most inconvenient times in this game? Edit: I've made my post about the priest before Megaextremeist did and everyone is noticing his more. :I Look at the post before Ryan's Double Agent idea. Infact, here it is, fully quoted: Actually, I was planning to accuse Shooter before you made your post. I unconventionally went afk before finishing my post though Anyhow, the priest must be so sure to protect Shooter. As if Shooter himself is the priest. Really, I saw no one protecting him, so it's the most logical conclusion. Butter's definitely not the priest, because he would've used the powers to save Jar, and Shooter voted for him that round, so it makes sense. So basically, at this point, I have no idea who is mafia and who is not. I'm sorry if this makes me sound whiny, but it really irks me that people are either mis-reading, getting the wrong idea about, or completely ignoring my posts in this game

2013-10-02 16:05:00 Author: TheUltraDeino Posts: 1274

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I just posted that if Butter was the priest, he'd use his powers to save jar. Why does everyone ignore me in the most inconvenient times in this game? Or he had saved it for the final days in the event of well this. If we can make a good decision on whose mafia today then if the doctor can make a wonder save at night we still have a fighting chance of winning this.

2013-10-02 16:09:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Or he had saved it for the final days in the event of well this. If anything, the role closest to Butter would probably be the Doctor. I'm only going by that because he did a similar thing that Burn (sheriff) did, and asked the "doctor" to protect Jar

2013-10-02 16:25:00 Author: TheUltraDeino Posts: 1274

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If anything, the role closest to Butter would probably be the Doctor. I'm only going by that because he did a similar thing that Burn (sheriff) did, and asked the "doctor" to protect Jar Only the doctor couldn't.

2013-10-02 16:42:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I'm the priest. Argument settled. Or is it?

2013-10-02 16:43:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I'm the priest. Argument settled. Or is it? *insert GIF expressing shock here*

2013-10-02 16:46:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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*insert GIF expressing shock here* http://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/mock-surprise-gif.gif

2013-10-02 16:47:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Or he had saved it for the final days in the event of well this. If we can make a good decision on whose mafia today then if the doctor can make a wonder save at night we still have a fighting chance of winning this. In that case, convince me you're not mafia

2013-10-02 21:26:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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In that case, convince me you're not mafia Would a mafioso be as active as I've been? Would a mafioso be as suspicious as me? Look at previous games I've played them all the same. Everytime I'm a civilian this game isn't an exception. If I was mafia I would be hiding in the shadows and not doing what I do best: being suspicious. No one can deny that if I (or anyone else for that matter) was a mafia member I (they) would be playing this game a whole lot differently.

2013-10-02 22:06:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Think about this. Who is the doctor? Is it someone inactive, like dawn? then we may not be able to rely on that save. We know that I am innocent, so it is quite possible that the mafia will try and remove me from the game. That leaves 7 of you. It is also possible that Jedi is a mafia and that either Shooter, Deino or snipy are a mafia or two of you are. However I doubt shooter and snipy are teamed up (due to snipy trying to convince others about shooter.) and I doubt deino or shooter is or deino or snipy are. So doesn't that kind of just leave Deino out of you three?

2013-10-02 22:16:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Think about this. Who is the doctor? Is it someone inactive, like dawn? then we may not be able to rely on that save. We know that I am innocent, so it is quite possible that the mafia will try and remove me from the game. That leaves 7 of you. It is also possible that Jedi is a mafia and that either Shooter, Deino or snipy are a mafia or two of you are. However I doubt shooter and snipy are teamed up (due to snipy trying to convince others about shooter.) and I doubt deino or shooter is or deino or snipy are. So doesn't that kind of just leave Deino out of you three? I guess it's safe to say that you are now the towns acting sheriff.

2013-10-02 22:20:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Okay, the double-agent role... I don't think it's all that good. Now, it would work in a game where the mafia has at least two other roles, but the point is that it's a role based entirely around making the mafiosi feel bad. It'd sort of become a mafia-ception, a mafia game inside a mafia game. While these don't make it bad, in the end the role has two options: too good or too bad and it depends entirely on the... Well, in fear of revealing game related information, from what I have seen, it depends heavily on the player's level of "aptitude" to the role. Now, don't take this as me saying it's an all-bad role. It would definitely be a good addition, only it would demand that all the other roles are restructured and it'd take at least four other mafiosi. In addition, there's one big... Well, issue. How free is this role? Without right restrictions, he could just say here, in the forums, that: "The mafiosi are W, X, Y and Z! Lynch me to know I am speaking the truth!" Even if you did the obvious and made it so that the DA is revealed as "Mafioso" on the occasion of death, this role could still be the thing that causes the game either to be balanced or entirely ruined it. To that end, let me reshape my first sentence all the way up there: Double agent role could, at best, create a more insidiously wonderful environment for the game... Or at worst, ruin the game completely. I agree with all you've said, and yes, they would be revealed as mafioso upon death (except in the mafia chat, where the truh would be revelealed). It's a very delicate role, to say the least. One thing to perhaps balance mafia things out could be to include a "DA Sherriff" on the mafia side - they could ask me, every night via a PM, if a specific mafioso was a DA or was not. Then, should they find the DA, they would have to convince the mafiosos to lynch off the DA, but they could not say that they were the DA Sherriff.

2013-10-02 22:21:00 Author: Ryan86me Posts: 1909

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I guess it's safe to say that you are now the towns acting sheriff. M'yeahh see...

2013-10-02 22:21:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Would a mafioso be as active as I've been? Would a mafioso be as suspicious as me? Look at previous games I've played them all the same. Everytime I'm a civilian this game isn't an exception. If I was mafia I would be hiding in the shadows and not doing what I do best: being suspicious. No one can deny that if I (or anyone else for that matter) was a mafia member I (they) would be playing this game a whole lot differently. Not necessarily true. FreeAim was the most active player during the last game and he turned out to be a mafioso. The "this is just how I normally play" excuse is pretty flimsy. If you knew your actions seemed suspicious, then why did you do them in the first place? One would think you'd look at the previous games, where you also attracted a lot of suspicion, think to yourself "I've been getting killed a lot on the account of my suspicious behaviour, maybe I should change the way I play", and wisen up?

2013-10-03 00:43:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Think about this. Who is the doctor? Is it someone inactive, like dawn? then we may not be able to rely on that save. We know that I am innocent, so it is quite possible that the mafia will try and remove me from the game. That leaves 7 of you. It is also possible that Jedi is a mafia and that either Shooter, Deino or snipy are a mafia or two of you are. However I doubt shooter and snipy are teamed up (due to snipy trying to convince others about shooter.) and I doubt deino or shooter is or deino or snipy are. So doesn't that kind of just leave Deino out of you three? I am completely confused of what you said. (that I've bolded) Again, I really doubt that you're the priest though, since Shooter is one of your 3 suspects.

2013-10-03 02:48:00 Author: TheUltraDeino Posts: 1274

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I am completely confused of what you said. (that I've bolded) Again, I really doubt that you're the priest though, since Shooter is one of your 3 suspects. ... Are you just trying to not get people to trust me? Also I was suggesting that you're the only one that both of them are both going for and yet there is little chance they are teamed up. Kind of leaves you out doesn't it?

2013-10-03 21:40:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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... Are you just trying to not get people to trust me? Also I was suggesting that you're the only one that both of them are both going for and yet there is little chance they are teamed up. Kind of leaves you out doesn't it? Oh. Also, I'm not getting people to distrust you. I got genuinely confused at what you said. Plus, I still think you're the doctor of all things. If anything, I think megaextremeist is the most suspicious to me, with the quote excuse and all.

2013-10-04 00:08:00 Author: TheUltraDeino Posts: 1274

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Oh. Also, I'm not getting people to distrust you. I got genuinely confused at what you said. Plus, I still think you're the doctor of all things. If anything, I think megaextremeist is the most suspicious to me, with the quote excuse and all. did I not already address this? SHOOTER, who MENTIONED it in the FIRST PLACE, addressed this

2013-10-04 00:46:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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did I not already address this? SHOOTER, who MENTIONED it in the FIRST PLACE, addressed this WHY are YOU randomly capitalizing LETTERS Edit: ok, now I see what you meant when I was backtracking. But why couldn't you post those quotes in your first post? Were you on mobile site or anything?

2013-10-04 01:04:00 Author: TheUltraDeino Posts: 1274

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LoL yOu guYS.

2013-10-04 09:11:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Okay, the day ends now. Sorry for not keeping you informed of all this, but I had sort of busy two days. Anyway, I will count the votes and the day will begin once mafia has named its victim and all the remaining special-rolers use their powers. Night 5 begins! Thank you for your patience.

2013-10-04 20:55:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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2013-10-05 18:02:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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From the current viewpoint, the night's being prolonged, as the mafiosi have been having difficulties casting their votes.

2013-10-05 19:21:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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From the current viewpoint, the night's being prolonged, as the mafiosi have been having difficulties casting their votes. This suggests Amoney is mafia. Because if he wasn't they wouldn't need to vote. Due to the fact that they would outnumber us 4 to three. Anyways http://www.smick.net/notebook/images/SamuelJackson.gif

2013-10-05 19:27:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Hey guys I'm back! Sorry for not playing sooner, I had to deal with things in my personal life (School & Family, mostly school though ) I think It's still night so i'll talk about what i learned during the day.

2013-10-05 20:02:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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Hey guys I'm back! Sorry for not playing sooner, I had to deal with things in my personal life (School & Family, mostly school though ) I think It's still night so i'll talk about what i learned during the day.

2013-10-05 20:03:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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This suggests Amoney is mafia. Because if he wasn't they wouldn't need to vote. Due to the fact that they would outnumber us 4 to three. Anyways Either Amoney is mafia, or we may have unknowingly killed the trader in a previous round. Hopefully both. If there are in fact 4 mafiosos, that is.

2013-10-05 20:32:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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2013-10-05 20:48:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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Either Amoney is mafia, or we may have unknowingly killed the trader in a previous round. Hopefully both. If there are in fact 4 mafiosos, that is. 4+trader or 4 including the trader?

2013-10-05 20:49:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I need to apologize: the night will end in about 10 hours. I need to sleep before making the papers and all that stuff.

2013-10-05 21:10:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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4+trader or 4 including the trader? I really doubt there are 5 mafiosi. 9 civilians wouldn't stand a chance against so many.

2013-10-05 21:11:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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I really doubt there are 5 mafiosi. 9 civilians wouldn't stand a chance against so many. So if Amoney is mafia...Do I get free ice cream?

2013-10-05 21:23:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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So if Amoney is mafia...Do I get free ice cream? Yes. But it brainwashes you

2013-10-05 21:26:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I really doubt there are 5 mafiosi. 9 civilians wouldn't stand a chance against so many. We're not allowed to talk about the game! D:

2013-10-05 21:31:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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We're not allowed to talk about the game! D: It's all related to Ice cream. I doubt it matters somehow

2013-10-05 21:35:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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It's all related to Ice cream. I doubt it matters somehow Wait why do you have Freeaim on your avatar & some turtles? xD

2013-10-05 21:40:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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Wait why do you have Freeaim on your avatar & some turtles? xD Because that's what a lot of people do in October here. They photoshop other members' profiles into theirs. As far as future games go, I definitely think some pause time would be nice for everyone after four games in a row. And while I don't have a shot at hosting the next game since I haven't participated in these recent two rounds, I do have a few ideas up my sleeve for some added roles to consider. It seems that almost everyone wants the trader gone though.

2013-10-05 21:55:00 Author: Dragonvarsity Posts: 5208

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Wait why do you have Freeaim on your avatar & some turtles? xD It's a tradition here to photoshop other people's avatars in your own during Halloween. Kind of like a mask of some sort. About not being able to discuss the game during the night: if I recall correctly, we aren't allowed to make accusations, express suspicion or sway votes during the night, but speculation is okay. Do tell me if I'm wrong though.

2013-10-05 21:58:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46999&d=1381041260 TheUltraDeino - Civvie amoney1999 - Civvie As the game is now very near to its end, I would want to inform that the final newspaper clipping will be written in two parts, as it both concludes the game and reveals the significance of ice-cream. Brave heart, civilians!

2013-10-06 07:37:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt309/MattRR15/funny-gif-guy-jumps-out-window.gif Wait if there is four mafia then does that mean that only me and someone else is innocent and to be perfectly clear it's either most likely going to be Sev or Shooter as the other. Or Amoney was the trader!

2013-10-06 10:26:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I'm confused how many players are left?

2013-10-06 12:21:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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You guys (civvies) are a colossal failure. :hero:

2013-10-06 12:43:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Wait isn't the game supposed to end if it wasn't 50/50. 6 civvies left could mean that there are 3 on both sides or FreeAim just wants to humiliate us. That being said I think the trader is still alive. Amoney wasn't a good lead and Ultra I'm sorry I suspected you. We must play smart victory is near-impossible not impossible.

2013-10-06 13:07:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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You guys (civvies) are a colossal failure. :hero: So is your ability to use red text.

2013-10-06 14:48:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I told you I wasn't mafia! And I wasn't the trader either! I swear, no one in these games listen to a thing!

2013-10-06 16:43:00 Author: amoney1999 Posts: 1202

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Wait if there is four mafia then does that mean that only me and someone else is innocent and to be perfectly clear it's either most likely going to be Sev or Shooter as the other. If that was the case, the game would've ended already, as the mafia wins once they have numerical superiority. Either there were three mafiosi from the start (including the trader) and they're all still alive, or there were four and we killed the trader in a previous round. Best case scenario: there were three mafiosi from the start AND we killed the trader. I have to re-read the thread and mull this over.

2013-10-06 16:47:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Assuming there are no hidden roles FreeAim still has left up his sleeve and the game ending with one civilian and one mafioso would mean a win for the mafia and no RPS battle between the two, here are a few possibilities I've come up with where the civilians could still win the game. 1. Day 6 votes are tied between the three mafiosos, who vote on a civilian, and the three civilians, who vote on a mafioso. 2. The two battle in RPS, and the civilian wins, while the mafioso is killed. Two mafiosos versus three civilians. 3. One of these civilians, the doctor, correctly guesses who the mafia targets during the night. There are still five players. 4. The civilians gain the majority in Day 7's votes, and take out another mafioso. Three to one now. 5. The last mafioso takes out one of the civilians, either the doctor or someone the doctor can't save. Two civilians left. 6. The remaining two civvies kill the last of the mafia scum on Day 8 by getting majority vote. Civilians win. 1. Day 6 votes are tied between the three mafiosos, who vote on a civilian, and the three civilians, who vote on a mafioso. 2. The two battle in RPS, and the civilian wins, while the mafioso is killed. Two mafiosos versus three civilians. 3. One of these civilians, the doctor, correctly guesses who the mafia targets during the night. There are still five players. 4. The civilians gain the majority in Day 7's votes, and take out another mafioso. Three to one now. 5. The last mafioso fails to take out another civvie thanks to the doctor. There are still three civilians and one mafioso. 6. No ties, because either two or three of the civilians get the majority by taking out the final mafioso. Civilians win. 1. Day 6 votes are tied between the three mafiosos, who vote on a civilian, and the three civilians, who vote on a mafioso. 2. The two battle in RPS, and the civilian wins, while the mafioso is killed. Two mafiosos versus three civilians. 3. One of these civilians, the doctor, correctly guesses who the mafia targets during the night. There are still five players. 4. The civilians gain the majority in Day 7's votes, and take out another mafioso. Three to one now. 5. The last mafioso fails to take out another civvie thanks to the doctor. There are still three civilians and one mafioso. 6. Uncertainly pops up for the final four on day 8, resulting in a tie between a civilian and the final mafioso, or civvie on civvie. 7. The two play RPS, and the (or one of the) civilian(s) loses and dies. One mafioso, two civilians. 8. During Night 8, the mafioso tries killing again but one of the final two civvies is the doctor, and the kill is deflected. 9. Night 9, no more uncertainty. The two final civilians get the majority vote and take out the mafia scum. Civilians win. The mafia win is probably already sealed and in the bag, but if there's any chance left of the civilians winning, then this is your most important day, and requires the right voting, the right luck for RPS, and the right choice from the doctor, because even if he/she doesn't protect the right person on Night 6, he/she'll have to before the game's up in order to win back the town, at least I think. If another civilian dies today though, it's all over.

2013-10-06 17:06:00 Author: Dragonvarsity Posts: 5208

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http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/awrAbMB_460sa.gif Aye. It's up to the Doctor to save the day now.

2013-10-06 19:10:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/awrAbMB_460sa.gif Aye. It's up to the Doctor to save the day now. Good luck to him, whoever he is.

2013-10-06 19:12:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/awrAbMB_460sa.gif Aye. It's up to the Doctor to save the day now. Watch there be one final secret role of FreeAim's that pulls some giant, cheap deus ex machina on the entire round.

2013-10-06 20:15:00 Author: Dragonvarsity Posts: 5208

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Well whoever the doctor is might as well speak out.... *totally not a trap for the mafia vote*

2013-10-06 20:47:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Well whoever the doctor is might as well speak out.... *totally not a trap for the mafia vote* Wait. Most mafia are of Italian origin. Italy is a catholic country. The priest must therefore lead them in prayer and offer them forgiveness. Meaning the priest is acctually a mafia role.

2013-10-06 21:22:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47000&d=1381090890 A new role has been added, or, well, an old role has been altered. The final role for this game is revealed to be the ice-cream man, a person who would appear when the suffering of the civilians would be too large and their situation very, very dire. What this role does, I will not reveal. Whoever it is, will not be revealed either. It may be anyone, so there is no believing to any "information" about the role, given by anyone but me. The role's powers and the ice-cream man's identity will be revealed at the end of the game. This is also a very exclusive role for this game. Nothing like this has been seen before here, in LBPC forums' mafia games. This is the significance of the ice-cream theme. EDIT: The day is prolonged because of my inability to end it when it should end. In addition, it gives the ice-cream man time to... Well, you will see.

2013-10-06 21:32:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47000&d=1381090890 A new role has been added, or, well, an old role has been altered. The final role for this game is revealed to be the ice-cream man, a person who would appear when the suffering of the civilians would be too large and their situation very, very dire. What this role does, I will not reveal. Whoever it is, will not be revealed either. It may be anyone, so there is no believing to any "information" about the role, given by anyone but me. The role's powers and the ice-cream man's identity will be revealed at the end of the game. This is also a very exclusive role for this game. Nothing like this has been seen before here, in LBPC forums' mafia games. This is the significance of the ice-cream theme. I bet you there are still 10 extra roles left for each player and that we simply don't know about them.

2013-10-06 21:36:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I thought I mentioned that this was the final role.

2013-10-06 21:41:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Wow, isn't this game full of surprises. I hope that role is actually useful... and above all, that it'll be used wisely. This situation is looking pretty grim. I have read the entire thread and I haven't found any new clues. If you guys could look for leads too that'd be pretty helpful. Maybe you can come across the breakthrough I couldn't find. You guys know who I have been suspecting for a few days now, and that's good ol' Shooter. I still have the feeling he's mafia. If nothing comes up, it's him I'll be voting for.

2013-10-06 22:53:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Wow, isn't this game full of surprises. I hope that role is actually useful... and above all, that it'll be used wisely. This situation is looking pretty grim. I have read the entire thread and I haven't found any new clues. If you guys could look for leads too that'd be pretty helpful. Maybe you can come across the breakthrough I couldn't find. You guys know who I have been suspecting for a few days now, and that's good ol' Shooter. I still have the feeling he's mafia. If nothing comes up, it's him I'll be voting for. Well crap. Anyways I'll look over the thread tomorrow but first I must do the bidding of my overlord.

2013-10-06 23:16:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Oh yeah... I should post I guess. So, I've been busy with starting, rather restarting, my second year at uni these past two weeks and really haven't been nearly as focused on this as previous games. Having said that I have looked through the vast majority of posts and then I find there's an ice-cream man! I'd like a 99 with a Flake. (If you know what that is) As for a vote, Shooter was saved by the priest (right?). So someone, I'm guessing not Snipy, has faith in him. Also we are down to 3 v 3 (let's face it, 2 mafioso did not start this game). The priest, doctor and ice cream man v 3 mafioso (possibly still a trader). What I'm saying is, everyone has a role. I don't think Snipy is the priest due to his votes but this new role could now be his. Butter has been quite vocal about things, possibly knowing those being voted for are civvies. Mega & Dawn, I feel could be on either side really. All things considered, Shooter gets my vote as I think the priest's judgement on saving him was misplaced.

2013-10-07 00:01:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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Oh yeah... I should post I guess. So, I've been busy with starting, rather restarting, my second year at uni these past two weeks and really haven't been nearly as focused on this as previous games. Having said that I have looked through the vast majority of posts and then I find there's an ice-cream man! I'd like a 99 with a Flake. (If you know what that is) As for a vote, Shooter was saved by the priest (right?). So someone, I'm guessing not Snipy, has faith in him. Also we are down to 3 v 3 (let's face it, 2 mafioso did not start this game). The priest, doctor and ice cream man v 3 mafioso (possibly still a trader). What I'm saying is, everyone has a role. I don't think Snipy is the priest due to his votes but this new role could now be his. Butter has been quite vocal about things, possibly knowing those being voted for are civvies. Mega & Dawn, I feel could be on either side really. All things considered, Shooter gets my vote as I think the priest's judgement on saving him was misplaced. You should read the whole thread. Butter is the priest. First he hinted at it, and then he openly admitted it. You voting on Shooter out of the blue is making me think twice about voting him out...

2013-10-07 00:42:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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You should read the whole thread. Butter is the priest. First he hinted at it, and then he openly admitted it. You voting on Shooter out of the blue is making me think twice about voting him out... Well, I'll admit I skimmed the thread, there was a lot to catch up on. You're voting for shooter too though, so... why does that make you suspicious? In any case, you haven't changed your vote so neither will I. I'm going to sleep and will probably wake up once night begins.

2013-10-07 01:22:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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Well, I'll admit I skimmed the thread, there was a lot to catch up on. You're voting for shooter too though, so... why does that make you suspicious? In any case, you haven't changed your vote so neither will I. I'm going to sleep and will probably wake up once night begins. It's not the fact that you're voting on him. It's because you're voting on him so suddenly, without explaining your reasons behind it. I've explained why I find him suspicious in a megapost a few pages back. Also, I haven't voted for him yet. I said I would vote for him if nothing more suspicious came up. FreeAim, when exactly does the day end?

2013-10-07 01:29:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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I've just read through the whole post, and still got nothing :/ hopefully this ice-cream man role will give us a fighting chance where is dawnbreaker? from what i've seen, he's only posted once(EDIT whoops, twice), and it wasn't relative to the game. however, upon visiting his profile he has been active.

2013-10-07 02:08:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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where is dawnbreaker? from what i've seen, he's only posted once(EDIT whoops, twice), and it wasn't relative to the game. however, upon visiting his profile he has been active. *Facekeyboard* Hey guys I'm back! Sorry for not playing sooner, I had to deal with things in my personal life (School & Family, mostly school though ) I think It's still night so i'll talk about what i learned during the day. The bold is why it wasn't relative.

2013-10-07 02:49:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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*Facekeyboard* The bold is why it wasn't relative. oh. also, why didn't I see this? .-. my bad dude.

2013-10-07 03:02:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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The day will end Wednesday 8:00 AM on GMT+0 time-zone. EDIT: This time may throw 6 hours forward or back, depending on my schedule for that day.

2013-10-07 06:37:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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I am finding Jedi suspicious. Snipy has already listed his reasons. He also seems to not have read over the thread (hence not knowing Butter was the priest) so how can he get solid reasoning to vote me? If I'm honest maybe he is jumping on snipy's bandwagon and trying to not be detected while doing so. Just a thought. Edit: May as well vote, Jedi

2013-10-07 19:25:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I am finding Jedi suspicious. Snipy has already listed his reasons. He also seems to not have read over the thread (hence not knowing Butter was the priest) so how can he get solid reasoning to vote me? If I'm honest maybe he is jumping on snipy's bandwagon and trying to not be detected while doing so. Just a thought. Edit: May as well vote, Jedi Yeah, I skimmed and kinda bandwagoned I felt that I should vote since there's so few left. Sorry. I'll have a real read through tomorrow. I was also mistaken on the start of the night. Really not on top of my game here. I withdraw my vote but I don't plan to abstain.

2013-10-08 00:19:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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I just read 22 pages of a game I have no stake in in one sitting. I am the RAWK.

2013-10-08 02:11:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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Alright. I've waited plenty of time and no convincing posts have come up. Shooter did vote on Jedi, but it looks more like an attempt to save his own skin than a proper accusation. I do think Jedi's sudden reappearance and vote on Shooter is suspicious. But the fact that he clearly hasn't been keeping up with the game's events gives credence to the possibility that he has just been inactive and behaved noobishly upon returning. At least that's what it looks like to me. Ultimately I distrust Shooter more than I distrust Jedi. As such, my vote goes to Shooter.

2013-10-08 14:08:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Okay, the day will change into night in about 15 hours, so everyone: vote while you still can.

2013-10-08 19:19:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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I am finding Jedi suspicious. Snipy has already listed his reasons. He also seems to not have read over the thread (hence not knowing Butter was the priest) so how can he get solid reasoning to vote me? If I'm honest maybe he is jumping on snipy's bandwagon and trying to not be detected while doing so. Just a thought. Edit: May as well vote, Jedi this is quite the bandwaggon don't you think?

2013-10-08 21:04:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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this is quite the bandwaggon don't you think? No-one else has voted Jedi so how is that bandwagoning.

2013-10-08 21:11:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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No-one else has voted Jedi so how is that bandwagoning. I am finding Jedi suspicious. Snipy has already listed his reasons. He also seems to not have read over the thread (hence not knowing Butter was the priest) so how can he get solid reasoning to vote me? If I'm honest maybe he is jumping on snipy's bandwagon and trying to not be detected while doing so. Just a thought. Edit: May as well vote, Jedi you accused me earlier of trying to slip under the radar with a vote, which is kinda what that looks like. also, the whole jumping at someone else makes it look like you just want to save your own skin

2013-10-08 23:15:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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I withdrew my vote but Shooter did not so it seems less like he is doing it to "get even" with me, which I'd find understandable. I vote for Shooter, with a reason this time.

2013-10-09 08:10:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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The night begins now! No game-related discussions allowed during its duration, but posting gifs is mandatory. Pulp fiction.

2013-10-09 09:14:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Well that day was certainly... productive.

2013-10-09 13:08:00 Author: Ryan86me Posts: 1909

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The night begins now! No game-related discussions allowed during its duration, but posting gifs is mandatory. Pulp fiction. Did somebody say PULP FICTION! http://media.giphy.com/media/zTp9hK79CQhuo/giphy.gif

2013-10-09 16:01:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1507570/nervous-spongebob-o.gif This is nerve-wracking. I hope I made the right call.

2013-10-09 19:23:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Hmmmmm Pulp fiction, pulp fiction, pulp fiction, pulp fiction.

2013-10-09 20:36:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Hmmmmm Pulp fiction, pulp fiction, pulp fiction, pulp fiction. DID PULP FICTION SAY SOMEBODY? http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/PulpFiction.gif

2013-10-09 20:41:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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DID PULP FICTION SAY SOMEBODY? http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/PulpFiction.gif Why is there no thanks button?

2013-10-09 20:43:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Due to some complications with certain members of the game, the night is drawn out until these complexities are solved.

2013-10-10 07:07:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/kid_freak_out.gif Due to some complications with certain members of the game, the night is drawn out until these complexities are solved.

2013-10-10 07:12:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47010&d=1381406584 Read the paper.

2013-10-10 13:03:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Wow, props to the doctor.

2013-10-10 13:09:00 Author: Ryan86me Posts: 1909

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This game has gone on for a long time, it would seem. Time for the mafia to put the civvies out of their misery.

2013-10-10 13:11:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Well, this has got to be the longest time without blood-shed in a mafia game yet I think

2013-10-10 15:32:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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Wow well done the doctor whoever he may be. To the ice-cream man: I ate two tubs of coffee ice cream I left the money in the van but it too was also destroyed.

2013-10-10 17:20:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Okay guys, it's revelation time. I have to do this before the mafia silences me. I am the ice cream man. FreeAim gave me three options. A- Find out who traded with whom. B- find out the original role of any player. C- save the next civilian that would otherwise be killed. I chose C, and imagine my surprise when I saw Shooter was saved. By voting on him I almost doomed us. I made the wrong call, and I'm sorry about that. The documents inside the van symbolized option A or B, being destroyed when I chose option C. This is what I now know for certain: I can trust Butter and Shooter. The question is, how many mafiosos are left? If they started out as 3 (excluding Ryan), there could be either 3 or 2 left. Two if we have killed the trader, three if we haven't. So there might still be a civ among Dawn, Jedi and Mega. Let's finish this.

2013-10-10 17:24:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Okay guys, it's revelation time. I have to do this before the mafia silences me. I am the ice cream man. FreeAim gave me three options. A- Find out who traded with whom. B- find out the original role of any player. C- save the next civilian that would otherwise be killed. I chose C, and imagine my surprise when I saw Shooter was saved. By voting on him I almost doomed us. I made the wrong call, and I'm sorry about that. The documents inside the van symbolized option A or B, being destroyed when I chose option C. This is what I now know for certain: I can trust Butter and Shooter. The question is, how many mafiosos are left? If they started out as 3 (excluding Ryan), there could be either 3 or 2 left. Two if we have killed the trader, three if we haven't. So there might still be a civ among Dawn, Jedi and Mega. Let's finish this. You made the right decision my boy. Lets win this one for our fellow deceased civvies. So, Dawn, Jedi and mega huh? Mega seems the sketchiest but he could just be playing the role of the obvious civilian. Also who is the doctor. You might as well come out now. because if it's shooter then we have no new ground but if it is one of those three then we have our mafioso.

2013-10-10 17:56:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I'm almost certain mega and jedi are mafia. Jedi did bandwagon on my vote on Shooter. And even though mega didn't vote on Shooter, it looked like he was going to: you accused me earlier of trying to slip under the radar with a vote, which is kinda what that looks like. also, the whole jumping at someone else makes it look like you just want to save your own skin I have no clue about Dawn, though. I reckon we should save her for last.

2013-10-10 18:02:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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I'm almost certain mega and jedi are mafia. Jedi did bandwagon on my vote on Shooter. And even though mega didn't vote on Shooter, it looked like he was going to: I have no clue about Dawn, though. I reckon we should save her for last. Agreed but lets wait on our fellow civvie shooter. See if anyone can confirm who the doctor is.

2013-10-10 18:06:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Butter I am the the last remaining time-lord. (I'm the doctor) No matter what happens. You must trust me.

2013-10-10 19:38:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Butter I am the the last remaining time-lord. So peanuts ARE in control of the space time continuum! I knew it!

2013-10-10 19:39:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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Okay guys, it's revelation time. I have to do this before the mafia silences me. I am the ice cream man. FreeAim gave me three options. A- Find out who traded with whom. B- find out the original role of any player. C- save the next civilian that would otherwise be killed. I chose C, and imagine my surprise when I saw Shooter was saved. By voting on him I almost doomed us. I made the wrong call, and I'm sorry about that. The documents inside the van symbolized option A or B, being destroyed when I chose option C. This is what I now know for certain: I can trust Butter and Shooter. The question is, how many mafiosos are left? If they started out as 3 (excluding Ryan), there could be either 3 or 2 left. Two if we have killed the trader, three if we haven't. So there might still be a civ among Dawn, Jedi and Mega. Let's finish this. I don't think you're lieing, that's impossible knowing what you do. However, Realize that with option C came a note saying it overlaps with the doctors role and (seeing as you're probably not *an* ice-cream man and doctor) you protect who would be lynched. I know this because I too received this message and am currently wondering whats going on. Also, we weren't supposed to reveal this

2013-10-11 02:18:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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I don't think you're lieing, that's impossible knowing what you do. However, Realize that with option C came a note saying it overlaps with the doctors role and (seeing as you're probably not *an* ice-cream man and doctor) you protect who would be lynched. I know this because I too received this message and am currently wondering whats going on. Also, we weren't supposed to reveal this That's impossible. What are you playing at?

2013-10-11 09:56:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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EDIT: Oops wrong thread.... quick, think of something mafia related...... errrrrrrm, nope.. my mind's gone blank.

2013-10-11 11:26:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Megaextremist: Only things people here are not directly allowed to do are: 1) Reveal any PM I have sent. You may still reveal your role, etc, if you feel like people believe you and that gives you and advantage. 2) Reveal that they have been traded. Revealing PMs will end in the death of that player and revealing to be traded will end in ban from future games (once again, this rule wasn't invented by me alone). PS: Figure your way out of this paper-bag, folks. Just for clarification, here's the final reveal I will make about this game: I would never give away an advantage to one side without granting the other side one as well.

2013-10-11 12:47:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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PS: Figure your way out of this paper-bag, folks. Just for clarification, here's the final reveal I will make about this game: I would never give away an advantage to one side without granting the other side one as well. Mother of god.... Snipy might be mafia Why? the mafia's final and secret role. THE IMPERSONATOR It may be possible to have a role where the person can see the exact PM of one role in a game. i.e. the Ice cream man. Snipy could've used this to make us trust him and force us to go against mega. Therefore winning the game for the mafioso. Think about it, he has been with us this whole game. Being a constant threat to the apparent mafia. Yet not once has he been targeted. He has shown his intelligence throughout this and multiple games and not once have we suspected him. Well I say.... PROVE ME WRONG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaAgI7eZMg Or not.

2013-10-11 15:17:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Mother of god.... Snipy might be mafia Why? the mafia's final and secret role. THE IMPERSONATOR It may be possible to have a role where the person can see the exact PM of one role in a game. i.e. the Ice cream man. Snipy could've used this to make us trust him and force us to go against mega. Therefore winning the game for the mafioso. Think about it, he has been with us this whole game. Being a constant threat to the apparent mafia. Yet not once has he been targeted. He has shown his intelligence throughout this and multiple games and not once have we suspected him. Well I say.... PROVE ME WRONG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaAgI7eZMg Or not. As to why the mafia hasn't killed me yet: I have also wondered about this, but it recently became clear to me. For most of the game, I was set on voting out Shooter, who I now know is a civilian. They probably caught onto that and let me live, hoping I would succeed and get a civvie killed for them. Bonus points if that caused the other civilians to kill me next. Think about it. During this game I have done nothing that could threaten them. The closest I came to foiling the mafia was trying to convince you guys that Jarreguin was innocent, and I failed to do even that. And don't forget, you proved your innocence and prevented the death of a civilian. The moment you did that, killing you became their highest priority, not me. What megaextremist seems to be doing is claiming he received the same PM as me and adding an invented but credible detail (the power of the ice cream man not overlapping with the doctor's) to seem like he's the actual ice cream man and I am an impostor. I didn't say option C saved the next civilian that was going to be lynched or assassinated by the mafia. I said it saved the next civilian that would otherwise die. Implying it's a civilian the doctor couldn't save. The mafia's cover has been blown. Desperate gambits is all they have left to shield themselves. If you believe in them, be it on your head. I don't have a clue about what the advantage FreeAim gave the mafia does. But I doubt it is the ability to impersonate another role. All it would take for that ability to be invalidated would be the person with the actual role revealing it first.

2013-10-11 16:09:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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As to why the mafia hasn't killed me yet: I have also wondered about this, but it recently became clear to me. For most of the game, I was set on voting out Shooter, who I now know is a civilian. They probably caught onto that and let me live, hoping I would succeed and get a civvie killed for them. Bonus points if that caused the other civilians to kill me next. Think about it. During this game I have done nothing that could threaten them. The closest I came to foiling the mafia was trying to convince you guys that Jarreguin was innocent, and I failed to do even that. And don't forget, you proved your innocence and prevented the death of a civilian. The moment you did that, killing you became their highest priority, not me. What megaextremist seems to be doing is claiming he received the same PM as me and adding an invented but credible detail (the power of the ice cream man not overlapping with the doctor's) to seem like he's the actual ice cream man and I am an impostor. I didn't say option C saved the next civilian that was going to be lynched or assassinated by the mafia. I said it saved the next civilian that would otherwise die. Implying it's a civilian the doctor couldn't save. The mafia's cover has been blown. Desperate gambits is all they have left to shield themselves. If you believe in them, be it on your head. I don't have a clue about what the advantage FreeAim gave the mafia does. But I doubt it is the ability to impersonate another role. All it would take for that ability to be invalidated would be the person with the actual role revealing it first. tch, fine. But Mega, role. What is it? I am not as comfortable on voting him now.

2013-10-11 16:17:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Butter we shouldn't vote either Snipy or Mega. This situation is just too confusing right now. I say we either lynch Dawn or Jedi.

2013-10-11 16:28:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Butter we shouldn't vote either Snipy or Mega. This situation is just too confusing right now. I say we either lynch Dawn or Jedi. I can respect that. But as I said, we must consider the possibility that the game began with three mafiosos (not counting Ryan) and that the trader has been killed already. If that's the case, then one of them is a civilian. What about Jedi? He did bandwagon on my vote on you.

2013-10-11 16:42:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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I can respect that. But as I said, we must consider the possibility that the game began with three mafiosos (not counting Ryan) and that the trader has been killed already. If that's the case, then one of them is a civilian. What about Jedi? He did bandwagon on my vote on you. Agreed he is who I was to go for. Also we have a 2/3 chance and Jedi seems to have a record of being mafia most of the time and he always doesn't say much each time. I vote for Jedi.

2013-10-11 16:48:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I can respect that. But as I said, we must consider the possibility that the game began with three mafiosos (not counting Ryan) and that the trader has been killed already. If that's the case, then one of them is a civilian. What about Jedi? He did bandwagon on my vote on you. I changed my mind with Jar and I'm 100% certain that the trader is still alive. I am swinging towards you being innocent but I think it's a matter best saved for the final day. That being said the mafia wouldn't want to kill you now that you're "suspicious". Butter is too important to die. I will provably be their next target but if they have sense they won't. I agree we need to begin a good ol' bandwagon. Execute order 66.

2013-10-11 16:49:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I changed my mind with Jar and I'm 100% certain that the trader is still alive. I am swinging towards you being innocent but I think it's a matter best saved for the final day. That being said the mafia wouldn't want to kill you now that you're "suspicious". Butter is too important to die. I will provably be their next target but if they have sense they won't. I agree we need to begin a good ol' bandwagon. Execute order 66. http://www.lakeheadschools.ca/hammarnet/Events/neon.gif Oh wait, that's order 67. My bad.

2013-10-11 16:54:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Alright, my vote goes to Jedi.

2013-10-11 17:17:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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This is going to be the first productive thing that we've done since the civs of the first game. No more flawless victories for the mafiosoi.

2013-10-11 17:20:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I changed my mind with Jar and I'm 100% certain that the trader is still alive. I am swinging towards you being innocent but I think it's a matter best saved for the final day. That being said the mafia wouldn't want to kill you now that you're "suspicious". Butter is too important to die. I will provably be their next target but if they have sense they won't. I agree we need to begin a good ol' bandwagon. Execute order 66. What makes you so sure the trader's still alive? He could be one of the civilians who got lynched. Also I think it's pretty obvious it wasn't Jarreguin. If it had been him, he would've switched with craigmond on the first day.

2013-10-11 17:42:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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What makes you so sure the trader's still alive? He could be one of the civilians who got lynched. Also I think it's pretty obvious it wasn't Jarreguin. If it had been him, he would've switched with craigmond on the first day. I have a feeling. Also we need to assume they're all still alive. If we do mistake someone for the trader then that mistake can prove fatal for us.

2013-10-11 17:56:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I have a feeling. Also we need to assume they're all still alive. If we do mistake someone for the trader then that mistake can prove fatal for us. But you do recognize that it is possible? I think we should consider the possibilities, instead of assuming them outright. Assuming there are three mafiosi left could cause the lynching of a fourth civilian, which could also prove to be a fatal mistake.

2013-10-11 18:18:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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FreeAim when does the day end?

2013-10-11 22:52:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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What makes you so sure the trader's still alive? He could be one of the civilians who got lynched. Also I think it's pretty obvious it wasn't Jarreguin. If it had been him, he would've switched with craigmond on the first day. MY NAME! IT HAS BEEN USED! I AM SUMMONED, I AM NEEDED, WHO ASKS OF ME? Being dead really lets boredom kick in...

2013-10-11 23:31:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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Alrighty then... So what I've read so far is there have been no deaths last night? The mafia targeted Butter but failed because of the Doctor. Shooter was saved by the Ice Cream man. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong) Which means there's a Doctor, Priest, Ice cream man, & me, a civilian. So there are 2 left mafiosos. Or even 1 left if the trader's already been killed.

2013-10-12 02:43:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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Alrighty then... So what I've read so far is there have been no deaths last night? The mafia targeted Butter but failed because of the Doctor. Shooter was saved by the Ice Cream man. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong) Which means there's a Doctor, Priest, Ice cream man, & me, a civilian. So there are 2 left mafiosos. Or even 1 left if the trader's already been killed. I think there's two ice-cream men (on either side) either that or one is pretending. I think there are 3 mafioso left which makes me wonder. Also just in case no-one got the execute order 66 reference I voted Jedi.

2013-10-12 09:57:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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I think there's two ice-cream men (on either side) either that or one is pretending. I think there are 3 mafioso left which makes me wonder. Also just in case no-one got the execute order 66 reference I voted Jedi. I got it. Just no one likes the prequel star wars films.

2013-10-12 09:59:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I'll vote for Jedi too. So that should end the day, right?

2013-10-12 22:56:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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I forgot to end the day earlier... God dang it, GTA V. Anyway, the day ends and night begins now. The night 7 will end once the mafia and the doctor have made their choices or the time (24 hours) runs out.

2013-10-13 09:19:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Well, that's what I get for playing pokemon and ignoring what's going on here.

2013-10-13 09:31:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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Well it's night time we all know what that means. 47032

2013-10-13 11:33:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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well it's night time we all know what that means. 47032 Did somebody say Reservoir dogs? http://31.media.tumblr.com/5c65dfcb24303e720128ac3f9faee031/tumblr_mt9eeduZu61s83ffjo1_500.gif

2013-10-13 12:03:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Oh and on that note: whatever happens trust me.

2013-10-13 17:26:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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47033

2013-10-13 21:05:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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47033 That made me burst out laughing.

2013-10-13 21:48:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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That made me burst out laughing. it was a selfie of your truly

2013-10-13 23:10:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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http://i.imgur.com/dYLqX.gif

2013-10-13 23:29:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47035&d=1381733602 Jedi_1993 -> Mafioso

2013-10-14 07:54:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Wow! You managed to kill off a mafioso who was ALSO a Belieber/Directioner. DOUBLE WIN! You're still gonna lose though!

2013-10-14 09:52:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Nice save! Shooter, you deserve a medal. So... Butter is basically Franken-Deadpool now? Or is it Deadpoolstein?

2013-10-14 11:35:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Glad I made the right call with Butter. Now that it's either 3:2 or 4:1 we have a shot at winning and right now I'm starting to focus on Dawn. Mega and Snipy both claim to be the ice-cream man but that's a matter for the last day. EDIT: I will take that medal.

2013-10-14 11:40:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Wow! You managed to kill off a mafioso who was ALSO a Belieber/Directioner. DOUBLE WIN! You're still gonna lose though! The posters were going cheap, I had to cover up the evidence with something! It was either that or My Little Pony posters. I guess I should have gone with the latter. I'm not dead, not really. More of a Force Ghost now. (But am out of the game)

2013-10-14 13:38:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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Right I may as well start the voting, Dawn it's time dusk came. I believe the trader to still be alive meaning a ratio of 3:2 the civs are Butter, Me and either Snipy (most likely) or Mega. She hasn't been active and the mafia seem to be taking a while deliberating because of it. Only recently towards the end has she had any form of activity and that's to say she's innocent, but hey I'll look over things again and make a final judgement.

2013-10-14 14:00:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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You can't kill the GIF king mafioso's! Also Mega and dawn didn't vote on Jedi. Yet Mega has been here commonly :kz:

2013-10-14 15:32:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Going by all the evidence... Methinks you guys should vote out butter. He's CLEARLY mafia scum.

2013-10-14 15:34:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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You can't kill the GIF king mafioso's! Also Mega and dawn didn't vote on Jedi. Yet Mega has been here commonly :kz: Mega did at the very last moment which adds to his criminality. However my vote for Dawn sticks.

2013-10-14 16:27:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Mega did at the very last moment which adds to his criminality. However my vote for Dawn sticks. Well at least if we're wrong with one of them it isn't game over anymore.

2013-10-14 16:36:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I think I'm going to abstain on this one. I'm pretty sure mega is a mafioso, but I have no clue about Dawn.

2013-10-14 17:16:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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I think I'm going to abstain on this one. I'm pretty sure mega is a mafioso, but I have no clue about Dawn. it is quite likely that both of them are. So I vote Dawn until she can otherwise specify not.

2013-10-14 17:27:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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I have a problem who to save tonight as Snipy would be useful for Mega to keep alive (or the 1% chance of vice-versa) and Butter is just a nuiscience for the Mafia with his role. If they kill me it will still be problematic for them. This is why I tried to get more funds into healthcare but you guys wanted a solid gold statue of a turtle.

2013-10-14 17:52:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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You can't kill the GIF king mafioso's! Also Mega and dawn didn't vote on Jedi. Yet Mega has been here commonly :kz: I voted on Jedi & so what if I didn't vote on him? Well at least if we're wrong with one of them it isn't game over anymore. Are you seriously gonna gamble with my life?! D: Meanie, shame on you. I have a problem who to save tonight as Snipy would be useful for Mega to keep alive (or the 1% chance of vice-versa) and Butter is just a nuiscience for the Mafia with his role. If they kill me it will still be problematic for them. This is why I tried to get more funds into healthcare but you guys wanted a solid gold statue of a turtle. How will it be problematic if they kill you? Aren't you the doctor? Wouldn't it be good if the mafia killed you? Well good for the mafia of course, not us, the civies. We want the doctor to be alive. Notice how I say "the doctor" & not Shooter. see, I don't think Shooter's the doctor. Butter I am the the last remaining time-lord. (I'm the doctor) No matter what happens. You must trust me. Didn't we want to kill Shooter earlier? He was saved by the ice cream man. & butter was saved by the doctor. Shooter sees his opportunity to evade death & claims to be the doctor. Never once is he targeted by the mafia. I wonder why... By some dumb luck the doctor has saved Butter 3 times in a row. Shooter keeps saying that Butter's special so that people keep thinking he's the doctor. I'm probably dead either way, so yeah...

2013-10-14 20:00:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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I voted on Jedi & so what if I didn't vote on him? Are you seriously gonna gamble with my life?! D: Meanie, shame on you. How will it be problematic if they kill you? Aren't you the doctor? Wouldn't it be good if the mafia killed you? Well good for the mafia of course, not us, the civies. We want the doctor to be alive. Notice how I say "the doctor" & not Shooter. see, I don't think Shooter's the doctor. Didn't we want to kill Shooter earlier? He was saved by the ice cream man. & butter was saved by the doctor. Shooter sees his opportunity to evade death & claims to be the doctor. Never once is he targeted by the mafia. I wonder why... By some dumb luck the doctor has saved Butter 3 times in a row. Shooter keeps saying that Butter's special so that people keep thinking he's the doctor. I'm probably dead either way, so yeah... Yeah you are so obviously mafia. Shooter is the doctor. If he wasn't then why would he of been affected by the ability of the ice cream man "The next civilian to be lynched will be saved" Shooter was saved. (There is only three civvies remaining) The fact that you're trying to turn us against him obviously shows that you aren't up to date with everything as well. Also a civilian wouldn't need to specify he is one constantly. (You've done this a lot.) It's probably this simple. 1. I am the Priest. 2. Snipy is the Ice-cream man. 3. Shooter is the doctor. & 4. You and Mega have lost. Also "You're a meanie" really? If you are a civvie then we know who isn't. Your sacrifice would win this for us.

2013-10-14 20:51:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Mega did at the very last moment which adds to his criminality. However my vote for Dawn sticks. 100% sure I didn't vote for jedi. Had I been around, I might have. But these days it seems like you can't agree with someone and not be accused of bandwagon. Glad I made the right call with Butter. Now that it's either 3:2 or 4:1 we have a shot at winning and right now I'm starting to focus on Dawn. Mega and Snipy both claim to be the ice-cream man but that's a matter for the last day. EDIT: I will take that medal. I'm gonna go ahead and assume your theory for the mafia role is correct seeing as Snipy knows what he knows. However, also consider if Dawn is mafia(which she probably is) (we don't know the numbers but your guess seems pretty good) who's to say she isn't this impersonator role and simply told Snipy? Snipy hasn't voted for Dawn. Judging by this post, I will - I voted on Jedi & so what if I didn't vote on him? Are you seriously gonna gamble with my life?! D: Meanie, shame on you. How will it be problematic if they kill you? Aren't you the doctor? Wouldn't it be good if the mafia killed you? Well good for the mafia of course, not us, the civies. We want the doctor to be alive. Notice how I say "the doctor" & not Shooter. see, I don't think Shooter's the doctor. Didn't we want to kill Shooter earlier? He was saved by the ice cream man. & butter was saved by the doctor. Shooter sees his opportunity to evade death & claims to be the doctor. Never once is he targeted by the mafia. I wonder why... By some dumb luck the doctor has saved Butter 3 times in a row. Shooter keeps saying that Butter's special so that people keep thinking he's the doctor. I'm probably dead either way, so yeah... I'd say she is. Butter pretty much already summed up why I think so, but I might as well re-explain so I'm not bandwagoning - she repeats multiple times "a civilian like me" we did in fact want to kill shooter, before he revealed he was the doctor, and I saved him with option C Make or break time guys. I vote for Dawn

2013-10-14 21:09:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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Whoa. I think Shooter has been traded. EVIDENCE A: Oh and on that note: whatever happens trust me. Last night Shooter protected Butter, so he himself was vulnerable to a mafia attack. If he's been traded, he'll be revealed as a mafioso, causing people not to trust him. Shooter feared that would happen, that's what caused him to say this. EVIDENCE B: I have a problem who to save tonight as Snipy would be useful for Mega to keep alive (or the 1% chance of vice-versa) and Butter is just a nuiscience for the Mafia with his role. If they kill me it will still be problematic for them. This is why I tried to get more funds into healthcare but you guys wanted a solid gold statue of a turtle. Shooter is probably on top of the mafia's kill list since he's the doctor and pretty much everyone accepts he is a civilian. But if the mafiosi themselves killed him (and not a lynch mob) it would prove he's a civilian scapegoat, therefore foiling their plans. EVIDENCE C: He keeps insisting the trader's alive (it's a 100% certainty according to him), but he seems to remain evasive when we ask him why he's so sure. He can't tell us he's been traded because of the rule. This also seems to imply that the trade happened somewhat recently. There's a mafioso out there who's disguised as a civilian. Who was the last civilian player that got killed? Amoney. So if Shooter is 100% sure the trader's still alive, the trade must have happened after Amoney's death.

2013-10-14 21:18:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Sorry Mega I was confused you for Dawn. Which acctually doesn't help her. The fact she is trying to turn others against me, a proven civilain, is undeniable proof of being a mafiosoi. Also Mega I liked you're theory on the Ice-cream man which will help deliberations next day.

2013-10-14 23:28:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Yeeep, Dawn's argument against Shooter is pretty nonsensical. Pretty much clears any doubts I had.

2013-10-15 00:11:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Sorry Mega I was confused you for Dawn. Which acctually doesn't help her. The fact she is trying to turn others against me, a proven civilain, is undeniable proof of being a mafiosoi. Also Mega I liked you're theory on the Ice-cream man which will help deliberations next day. we'll just have to wait for the newspaper

2013-10-15 02:26:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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we'll just have to wait for the newspaper And so the brave heroes of LBPCentralio decided to not go on a mystical quest and instead play the waiting game.

2013-10-15 10:22:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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And so the brave heroes of LBPCentralio decided to not go on a mystical quest and instead play the waiting game. A waiting game you say? Here you go: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

2013-10-15 18:25:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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*Cries in dark corner while playing pokemon*

2013-10-15 23:23:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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*Cries in dark corner while playing pokemon*

2013-10-15 23:24:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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47042

2013-10-16 00:49:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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It's not even night yet

2013-10-16 00:58:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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It is when you're dead

2013-10-16 01:06:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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It is when you're dead Just because I've cheated death twice.

2013-10-16 01:28:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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47042 Pfft....please: http://i40.tinypic.com/24wycls.png

2013-10-16 07:36:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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The day ends now. If there are no more hidden reveals/secret roles, Dawn will bite the dust at the crack of... well, dawn.

2013-10-16 09:07:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Dawn of the Dead From Dusk Til Dawn Pistols at Dawn It's just Dawned on me - I can't think of any more Dawn-related puns. 'Dawnfall'? Hmmmm. System of a Dawn? Naaaah, doesn't quite work does it? Anywhooooooo, I'm off to do more ghostly stuff. T'is the season, afterall.

2013-10-16 09:21:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Dawn of the Dead From Dusk Til Dawn Pistols at Dawn It's just Dawned on me - I can't think of any more Dawn-related puns. 'Dawnfall'? Hmmmm. System of a Dawn? Naaaah, doesn't quite work does it? Anywhooooooo, I'm off to do more ghostly stuff. T'is the season, afterall. Dawn Syndrome. Yep, I'm going to hell.

2013-10-16 10:48:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Dawn Syndrome. Yep, I'm going to hell. I did think of that one, but decided not to go there. There's also: Handbags at Dawn (which is kinda like Pistols at Dawn) Dawn of the Planet of the Apes Dawnton Abbey Watership Dawn

2013-10-16 11:21:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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2013-10-16 16:59:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Pfft....please: http://i40.tinypic.com/24wycls.png pfft, my per second was way slower than that. I did it the hard way but just to make sure we're on the same page 47044

2013-10-16 21:47:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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pfft, my per second was way slower than that. I did it the hard way but just to make sure we're on the same page 47044 http://i39.tinypic.com/2ywh0fk.png http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmFJtt67C1Y

2013-10-16 22:28:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Is it bad I can't stop watching that? Pulp fiction Game of thrones And ummmm some other show you could potentially find GIFS for.

2013-10-17 00:03:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Is it bad I can't stop watching that? Pulp fiction Game of thrones And ummmm some other show you could potentially find GIFS for. http://24.media.tumblr.com/de2cc7062d8e196ede3b394c24a76d65/tumblr_mo4tulAdMx1sn49d5o1_500.gif & http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/infamous2150/TheWalkingDeadS02E09HDTVXviD-ASAP.gif

2013-10-17 00:16:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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http://24.media.tumblr.com/de2cc7062d8e196ede3b394c24a76d65/tumblr_mo4tulAdMx1sn49d5o1_500.gif & http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/infamous2150/TheWalkingDeadS02E09HDTVXviD-ASAP.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ofzxfjF81r5hk2ko1_500.gif

2013-10-17 02:02:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-irRJuKU7PuE/T47nuQyDULI/AAAAAAAAA-o/o0KOC3a4mzg/s1600/herc-carver-huh-the-wire.gif

2013-10-17 09:22:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/170493i933BD6A8492F7445/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

2013-10-17 10:21:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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http://i.imgur.com/ydiBX0B.gif

2013-10-17 18:37:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/50-cent-driving-away-with-patrick.gif

2013-10-17 18:40:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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http://i.imgur.com/tf0uCa5.gif

2013-10-17 19:57:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47053&d=1382082023 Dawnbreaker_23 -> Mafioso

2013-10-18 08:42:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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How many times has Butters been saved by the doctor now? You'd think the mafia would have given up trying to kill him.

2013-10-18 09:14:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Three times, Ali_Star. Three times.

2013-10-18 09:34:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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No offence* to the mafiosos, but they must be pretty stupid to keep going after the same person when the doctor keeps saving him. *Actually.. no... I mean LOTS of offence. You guys bring shame upon the family's great name. You all deserve to be whisked off into the middle of the lake on a rowing boat, and.... well..... you should know the rest.

2013-10-18 10:28:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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It's getting pretty close now

2013-10-18 13:08:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47053&d=1382082023 Dawnbreaker_23 -> Mafioso adhaifhaif e eafggh *brains* afg Anyways it is either Snipy or Mega.

2013-10-18 15:09:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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adhaifhaif e eafggh *brains* afg Anyways it is either Snipy or Mega. I refer you to my ealier serious post. Snipy didn't vote for Dawn

2013-10-18 16:32:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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I refer you to my ealier serious post. Snipy didn't vote for Dawn That's right, I didn't vote for her. I was genuinely unsure wether she was a mafioso or not. Until I read her "defense" (if you can call it that). By then she already had 3 votes, so why bother. I voted on Jedi. Hell, I was the first person to suggest voting on him. If I were mafia, why would I have a problem with doing the same to Dawn? You, on the other hand, voted on both of them and you were the last one to do so. You did it only when it was almost certain they were going to die. Let's get this over with. I vote on mega. And I reckon he's going to vote on me. Shooter and Butter, the fate of the game is in your hands.

2013-10-18 17:04:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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That's right, I didn't vote for her. I was genuinely unsure wether she was a mafioso or not. Until I read her "defense" (if you can call it that). By then she already had 3 votes, so why bother. I voted on Jedi. Hell, I was the first person to suggest voting on him. If I were mafia, why would I have a problem with doing the same to Dawn? You, on the other hand, voted on both of them and you were the last one to do so. You did it only when it was almost certain they were going to die. Let's get this over with. I vote on mega. And I reckon he's going to vote on me. Shooter and Butter, the fate of the game is in your hands. This is true and with such a vivid description of the Ice cream man's abilities. I too vote for Mega.

2013-10-18 17:24:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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*raises pistol out of holster and points it towards Mega* It's over...

2013-10-18 19:32:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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And the game is over :kz: ... Probably. Unless Mega isn't the mafia and the doctor fails to save someone tonight. In which case, it'd be one mafia and one member... then what would happen? EGASP! Also, if there's going to be a new Mafia game, the RAWK shall make his return

2013-10-18 19:50:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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And the game is over :kz: ... Probably. Unless Mega isn't the mafia and the doctor fails to save someone tonight. In which case, it'd be one mafia and one member... then what would happen? EGASP! Also, if there's going to be a new Mafia game, the RAWK shall make his return You bring up a good point about wait time for Round V (for the revived series, that is). Since I skipped 'After Darkness' and this one, another mafia game to participate in doesn't sound too bad for me, and I'm sure the same goes for you since you did what I did but also passed on Ryan's round. Still though, a large chunk of the players from the first two rounds have stuck with it and have mostly grown tired it looks like, as each round has diminished in page count and this one's ending has been dragging for quite some time. Whether or not there is a large break between this and the next mafia game, is the next host set in stone? I've got a few ideas that could possibly shake things up without **hopefully** going too crazy, but you never can be sure if certain ideas can work well, and my absence from the last two rounds might make it a bit unfair for those who have played over and over and wanted to switch to hosting now.

2013-10-19 02:05:00 Author: Dragonvarsity Posts: 5208

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If I recalled correctly, Ali wanted to host the next game. I too would like to try my hand at it sometime, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. I have been very busy with my studies. Edit: I just realized Butter has basically become the protagonist of I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream.

2013-10-19 02:27:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Rawk, if there was one mafioso and one civilian, there would no longer be point in the game, so the game would end. Also, it takes two votes to vote someone out and unless the other one has an idiotic plan and votes himself, that would never happen. In short, mafia would win. Also, if it is the opinion of every remaining participant, I am authorized to end the day quickly. If you wish this to happen, say so.

2013-10-19 07:39:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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I want the day to end quickly. Lets finish this :kz: Also I am a blob. sdafsahelpmesaugs

2013-10-19 10:40:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Rawk, if there was one mafioso and one civilian, there would no longer be point in the game, so the game would end. Also, it takes two votes to vote someone out and unless the other one has an idiotic plan and votes himself, that would never happen. In short, mafia would win. Also, if it is the opinion of every remaining participant, I am authorized to end the day quickly. If you wish this to happen, say so.

2013-10-19 12:21:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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(╯?□?）╯︵ ┻━┻ guys. I'm not mafia. Think about it. Snipy has said himself He hasn't really done anything to threaten them, yet recently he keeps riding on the idea of voting for jedi. As soon as this happens, he attempts to convince everyone that Shooter was traded.I sure hope you guys know what you're doing. Because if I die, we are pretty much guaranteed we lose and Mafia wins

2013-10-19 16:21:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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(╯?□?）╯︵ ┻━┻ guys. I'm not mafia. Think about it. Snipy has said himself He hasn't really done anything to threaten them, yet recently he keeps riding on the idea of voting for jedi. As soon as this happens, he attempts to convince everyone that Shooter was traded.I sure hope you guys know what you're doing. Because if I die, we are pretty much guaranteed we lose and Mafia wins As Snipy already said you were last to vote on both. Whilst Snipy was the person to suggest Jedi. A mafia member wouldn't suggest another mafia member unless they were a lunatic. Also I think Snipy would've got the point if he was mafia and wouldn't keep trying to kill me. You never turned on either Dawn or Jedi until near the end of the day. You are a obvious mafia and if you're a civilian you only have yourself to blame for what may be our loss. Also if the doctor makes the save tonight and you're a civvie then me and Shooter know who is mafia then don't we.

2013-10-19 16:27:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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As Snipy already said you were last to vote on both. Whilst Snipy was the person to suggest Jedi. A mafia member wouldn't suggest another mafia member unless they were a lunatic. Also I think Snipy would've got the point if he was mafia and wouldn't keep trying to kill me. You never turned on either Dawn or Jedi until near the end of the day. You are a obvious mafia and if you're a civilian you only have yourself to blame for what may be our loss. Also if the doctor makes the save tonight and you're a civvie then me and Shooter know who is mafia then don't we. Isn't that how Jar died? Also how I died last game Also, I did vote last but Snipy said something along the lines of "I totally thought Dawn was mafia but I didn't vote because why bother" which to me looks way more suspicious. As for Jedi, Im not sure yet. My only theories would be Snipy was trying to save his skin and was willing to kill a mafia for that (which is really flimsy and probably not the case) or Jedi is involved with the trader somehow

2013-10-19 17:35:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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Isn't that how Jar died? Also how I died last game Also, I did vote last but Snipy said something along the lines of "I totally thought Dawn was mafia but I didn't vote because why bother" which to me looks way more suspicious. As for Jedi, Im not sure yet. My only theories would be Snipy was trying to save his skin and was willing to kill a mafia for that (which is really flimsy and probably not the case) or Jedi is involved with the trader somehow Why would Snipy need to save his own skin. Non of us had shown any hostility towards him. Also if either you are the ice-cream man then how come you said earlier that what Snipy put as his Ice-cream man powers was "what you got" Wouldn't that make him the ice-cream man and innocent then? or did you just lie to us to try and push the blame on a civvie? Hmmm.... Finally I can post this with meaning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaAgI7eZMg

2013-10-19 18:27:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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A mafia member wouldn't suggest another mafia member unless they were a lunatic. Or if their ultimate goal was to gain your trust. Voting out a fellow mafiaso in order to be assumed a civilian is a viable strategy I fully expect a good player of the game like SnipySev to employ. Think of it this way: If Snipy is mafia, then him selling Jedi out pretty much guaranteed everyone to not vote for him and to vote for someone else. Not saying that he is mafia, just saying it isn't a bad strategy like you imply. It is a good strategy, one yo must remember. Also, I know I'm breaking the rules but whatever, it seems like the day is over anyway. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2013-10-19 19:42:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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You guys are forgetting that my distrust of Jedi started long before I suggested we voted on him: https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=81848-LBPC-Mafia-Blood-amp-Ice-cream-Final-day-(9)/page21 Also, if I were a mafioso throwing my allies under the bus to seem innocent, I would've voted on Dawn as well.

2013-10-19 22:17:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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What I'm saying is, everyone has a role. I don't think Snipy is the priest due to his votes but this new role could now be his. Butter has been quite vocal about things, possibly knowing those being voted for are civvies. Mega & Dawn, I feel could be on either side really. All things considered, Shooter gets my vote as I think the priest's judgement on saving him was misplaced. So he puts accusations on me who is the most obvious civvie at the point. Says "Snipy could still be a mafioso don't trust him yet", Bandwagon's on shooter. BUT doesn't give a opinion on Dawn or Mega? We know now that both Dawn and Jedi were mafia. Coincidence? I think not. Mega you're a mafioso aren't you? :kz:

2013-10-19 22:29:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Mega you're a mafioso aren't you? :kz: What Butter is trying to say is CONFESSS YOU MURDERER. WE KNOW EVERYTHING SO JUST CONFESSS. If you want to that is

2013-10-19 22:45:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Didn't everyone vote? Shouldn't this be the end? I want to see what happens :kz: Also, interested in playing myself. /shrug

2013-10-19 22:46:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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The night 9 will begin in 9-10 hours and end in 20-21 hours!

2013-10-19 22:47:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Well, Snipy butter and Jedi are all voting for mega, and mega's already had a chance to defend himself. If he hasn't convinced them of his innocence by now, I don't think he will. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jnXrrxIbZfI/UXF__8KO6ZI/AAAAAAAAERg/yTCDSHxx2Ig/s640/get-on-with-it.png10

2013-10-19 22:50:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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Well, Snipy butter and Jedi are all voting for mega, and mega's already had a chance to defend himself. If he hasn't convinced them of his innocence by now, I don't think he will. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jnXrrxIbZfI/UXF__8KO6ZI/AAAAAAAAERg/yTCDSHxx2Ig/s640/get-on-with-it.png10 Jedi?

2013-10-19 22:54:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Jedi? I deeply apologize for not remembering- ah, who am I kidding, I'm not sorry.

2013-10-19 22:56:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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I've just read the whole thread to clear the doubts in my mind, as it stands I'm 99% sure Mega is guilty. That being said if Mega is mafia would he still have that final kill?

2013-10-20 02:44:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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looks like we lose again. The next game I think whoever runs it needs to work on making those mafia not so OP. We lose everytime

2013-10-20 03:21:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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The night begins now! It will end in approximately 11 hours.

2013-10-20 08:36:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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looks like we lose again. The next game I think whoever runs it needs to work on making those mafia not so OP. We lose everytime We could still win even if Snipy is mafia.

2013-10-20 13:32:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47071&d=1382288662 THE RULES OF THE FINAL DAY: The day ends as soon as all the three have voted. Votes can no longer be abstained or called back and everyone is able to only post ONE POST BEFORE VOTING. Make them count. The ones who remain: SnipySev Shooter0898 Butter-Kicker Rip in peace: megaextremist -> Ice-cream man

2013-10-20 18:08:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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So... this is quite the surprise, eh? Oh well, time to die. I vote on myself. http://deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Funny-gif-man-jump-out-the-window.gif

2013-10-20 18:17:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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So... this is quite the surprise, eh? Oh well, time to die. I vote on myself. http://deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Funny-gif-man-jump-out-the-window.gif Wait, so how did you know the Ice-cream man's powers? Also. Shooter. Lets end this! http://media2.giphy.com/media/IUYyqjUfzqbZe/giphy.gif I vote Snipy

2013-10-20 18:55:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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Wait, so how did you know the Ice-cream man's powers? FreeAim gave me three options to choose from. Option A would turn one of us into the Don (which means that person would be revealed to be a civilian once they died), B would consist on FreeAim granting us his analysis of each player's behaviour, and C would reveal the roles of two civilians of my choosing. Since I knew you were the priest, I asked FreeAim to reveal Shooter and Mega's roles. That included revealing the options Megaextremist was given as the ice cream man. Mega was obviously going to put two and two together and tell you guys that Dawn, Jedi and I were the mafia. So I decided to impersonate the ice cream man before he had the chance to do so. The plan was to manipulate you guys into killing Mega before you tried to kill Jedi and Dawn, but that obviously went south when you spotted FreeAim's hint. From then on, we tried to kill either you or Shooter. Unfortunately for us, Shooter is apparently a better Doctor than we are assassins. You guys killed the player who saved you from certain defeat. Taunted him about it, too. What the hell is wrong with you?

2013-10-20 19:15:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Wow. By 99% sure Mega was mafia I meant that you were doing a pattern of killing Butter and would assume I would have done the same last night allowing you to freely kill me. YET i was too paranoid for that to happen. It's over *raises pistol towards Snipy*

2013-10-20 21:15:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Wow. By 99% sure Mega was mafia I meant that you were doing a pattern of killing Butter and would assume I would have done the same last night allowing you to freely kill me. YET i was too paranoid for that to happen. It's over *raises pistol towards Snipy* Last night I just flipped a coin and hoped for the best. I had no idea wether you thought I was going to stick to the pattern or switch it up. Dawn, Jedi... I'll be joining you soon.

2013-10-20 21:35:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Last night I just flipped a coin and hoped for the best. I had no idea wether you thought I was going to stick to the pattern or switch it up. Dawn, Jedi... I'll be joining you soon. Well this goes to show you. Being paranoid is a good quality if you're the doctor.

2013-10-20 21:39:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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Very well. The night begins now and ends in half an hour. EDIT: Correction: the night will end when I wake up in the morning.

2013-10-20 22:01:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Well the mafia have finally lost. But I think we can all agree that Snipy played this excellently. I didn't do much (particularly early in the game) other than agree to go with Snipy's decisions. He was only revealed at the last possible choice. The other MVP was Shooter. Clearly the 13th incarnation of the Doctor. If it weren't for you the civillians would surely have lost a while back. GG Also, the mafia weren't really OP. There were 3 of us (Would have been 4 but we killed that one) the only special role we had was the trader. We only got those options from FreeAim when we argued that the civillians had too many special roles when the ice cream man showed up. I'd like to see the buddy cop roles return next game as they didn't get a chance. Well played, Jedi

2013-10-20 22:16:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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Actually, Shooter is the 4th incarnation of the doctor, previous ones being whoeverwasthedoctorinthefirstgame, RockSauron and GDN001. I do understand the reference, by the way. Also, what Jedi said above is mostly true. I did give civilians ridiculous amounts of roles, however, some of them didn't matter at all. Burnvictim42's only accomplishment was getting another civilian killed after his death, the buddy-cops were killed during the first effing night... The priest worked as I had hoped it to, the doctor played like a five-year-old at first and like a freaking cyber-controller in the later game and the ice-cream man worked. I did give the mafiosi a variation of this, with slightly weakened powers of what I originally supposed I would. However, the trader is a mighty powerful role, as we all know, though it didn't (gladly) do much here, the mafiosi had the advantage from the beginning, since, being brutally honest, being a civilian takes a lot more skill than what most people here seem to understand. It's much easier to act not-suspicious when you are a mafioso. Also, the mafia had the brainwashed person in case of emergency, but, well, that didn't work out too well for them. I did everything to make this game as balanced as I could and though it caused me a lot of headache, I think I did pretty well. The mafia would've won had they not screwed up in terms of their kills during the last nights.

2013-10-20 22:26:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Actually, Shooter is the 4th incarnation of the doctor, previous ones being whoeverwasthedoctorinthefirstgame, RockSauron and GDN001. I know, was referencing Doctor Who. Guess it wasn't clear enough.

2013-10-20 22:32:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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Me and Ali didn't die, we just decided to go to a doughnut store out of town. And we're also buddy Aliens. -THIS GAME WAS RUN BY M. NIGHT SHYAMALAN-

2013-10-20 23:24:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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Ohhh so we did win. Hooray! for some reason I thought we couldn't anyways nice game everyone. pretty intense

2013-10-21 00:20:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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However, the trader is a mighty powerful role. Of course it is. Anything I come up with in the shower is destined for tremendous things.

2013-10-21 06:59:00 Author: jarreguin001 Posts: 351

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http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47075&d=1382341850 This is it, folks! The end of Blood and Ice-cream, about two weeks later than I had anticipated. Surprisingly enough, the civilians actually managed to win the game, but this came with sacrifices. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46721&d=1378586154 http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47076&d=1382346846 During the first day, a single vote fell on Craigmond, who later met his maker in the night by the hands of jarrequin. As he died and the mafia murdered his partner in law, Ali_star (or something like that), the buddy-cops who were destined for great things both died at the first night. There was no clear "player of the day" as people were all too scared to make any sort of movement. This night also caused the number of votes required to lynch someone raise to 2. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46878&d=1379704552 The second day began with majority of the town's folks being angry at jarrequin for his earlier mistake. However, the votes were split on flamingemu and jarrequin001 2-2. As the night fell, it took several rounds of rock-paper-scissors to solve this madness. However, the end was randomized due to the two being equally bad at the game and flamingemu died. However, he too was just a civilian. Continuing with the irony, the mafia killed Ryan86Me, who was in fact a person titled... BRAINWASHED. The player of the day was Jarrequin001. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46909&d=1380021195 The third day was a tedious one for jarrequin001 as he was the most obvious choice for the civilians. Certainly he would be a mafioso, right? Right. He died. He was innocent. End of story. The mafia also killed someone, by the name of Bunrvictim42, who was also the sheriff of the town. Too bad for civilians, as six of them had now died. The player of the day 3 was Shooter0898. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46931&d=1380307326 The fourth day began and who else to blame for all things wrong in the world than nobody, as the priest of the town initiated mad-crazy part weeooo! The player of the day was megaextremist, for contributing a lot into the game. Too sad his song came to an end by the hands of people he had helped so much. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46975&d=1380650125 Ah, but the fifth day! This is where the conflict happened and people decided together that the only reasonable person to blame for all of this was Amoney1999. So why not take a chance on him? Too sad he was just another civilian. The mafia also killed someone. TheUltraDeino, the most active person to try and vote out Shooter0898 died. Quite strange? Nah, probably not. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46999&d=1381041260 During the sixth day, there was much debate whether the civilians could win anymore with the resources given to them. However, when the moment was the most dire, a wild ice-cream man appeared to save the day! The unique role, handcrafted to fit the situation of the degradation of civilians, megaextremist chose the option C, saving the next civilian lynched. This came in handy, as Shooter0898 was saved in the ice-cream man's van, also destroying all the other options he might have had. The doctor also saved someone, Butter-Kicker, in particular. The player of the day was, for his contribution, SnipySev http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47010&d=1381406584 The seventh day initiated with the mafia being given an extra power: the trust of the civilians in the name of the ice-cream man. The ice-cream man could have gone to mafia, had they faced a similar situation as the civilians had. However, the mighty role was a bit too mighty, so the game was turned even by giving the mafiosi three choices, out of which they chose A, learning Shooter's role and megaextremist's role, also learning the powers of the ice-cream man. Jedi was voted out by the civilians and the mafia made another attempt at Butter-Kicker, failing again due to the doctor. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47035&d=1381733602 The eight day! Now, the folks basically knew Dawn was a mafioso so they tied up another loose end in her form and the mafia made yet another attempt at killing Butter-Kicker, failing again! http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47053&d=1382082023 The ninth day, also possibly the last one, began with Shooter0898, Butter-Kicker, SnipySev and megaextremist and ended without mega. This was the moment of truth, whether the mafia won or the civilians won, the game of the doctor and the final mafioso. In a surprising turn of events, SnipySev failed in his final attempt to kill Shooter0898 and megaextremist, the one who had put so much effort into the game, was voted out, but his sacrifice won the civilians the game. http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47071&d=1382288662 As the final day began, SnipySev, in his failure, came out of the closet as the final mafioso and the remaining trio all voted him out. He chose to kill himself as the mafioso, so that's that. The civilians, Butter-Kicker and Shooter0898 won the game. Read the paper up there ^^^ That's it! Also, the last list of the dead and the living: The dead: jarrequin001 -DEAD -> Civvie amoney1999 -DEAD -> Civvie Jedi_1993 -DEAD -> Mafioso megaextremist -DEAD -> Ice-cream man SnipySev -DEAD -> The Trader TheUltraDeino -DEAD -> Civvie craigmond -DEAD ->Buddy-cop Ryan86Me -DEAD -> Brainwashed Dawnbreaker_23 -DEAD -> Mafioso Burnvictim42 -DEAD -> Sheriff Ali_Star -DEAD -> Buddy-cop Flamingemu -DEAD -> Civvie The survivors: butter-kicker -Alive -> The priest Shooter0898 -Alive -> The doctor CIVILIANS WIN! --- The roles you knew about: Civvie - A standard civilian with no special powers. Has to win by voting out the ones he thinks are the mafiosi. The Doctor - Can save one person from being killed by the mafia every night by messaging me with his or her choice. Otherwise, the same as civvie. The Priest - Can, once during the game, stop all the deaths happening for one night. Otherwise a standard civvie. Mafioso - A standard member of the mafia, can participate in civilian voting and the mafia voting. The Trader - Can swap roles with one person once in the game. Only matters in terms of titles. Otherwise a standard mafioso. The roles you didn't know about: The buddy-cops - A partnership role. The buddy-cops are civilians who know each other, are allowed to message between one another and when one of them is killed by the mafia, the other one learns the identity of one of his partner's killers. Otherwise, standard civvies. THE BRAINWASHED - A standard civvie who, upon the duty call, will change sides into the mafia. The Ice-cream man (Civilian edition) - When civilians hit the rough patch, the ice-cream man is informed of his role and given three choices: A) Find out the original role of a single person (unaffected by the trade). B) Find out who traded with whom (as the trade has been performed). Alternatively, there is another option, unrelated to finding out identities of others: C) Use your van to defend any civilian that would be killed during the next night (you don't have to name anyone. Whenever a civilian would die next night, he survives instead. If two civilians would die next night, though, the one who would be lynched survives (so it doesn't overlap with the doctor's ability). BLOOD & ICE-CREAM

2013-10-21 09:55:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Well done civvies, and well done FreeAim for running the game. So, would there be any objections over me running the next game then? I'd probably post the signup thread in a week, then leave it open for another two or three weeks, as people may need a break. I have a couple ideas for new roles etc, to keep things fresh, and would like to get at least 15 signed up.

2013-10-21 09:57:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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No need to post in red/green anymore and no objections, but you should probably open the sign-ups in a week or so. If you need any help, ask me, but don't reveal any secret roles to me.

2013-10-21 10:09:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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http://cdn.arwrath.com/6/67739.gif Well done, civilians. You win this time. About the next game, I think we should wait a bit longer. People are clearly losing interest in the game, as evidenced by the dwindling number of players. And the fact that there were so many roles for so few people was one of the things that made this game a mess, at least behind the scenes. Oh, and to the host of the next game: if you're going to implement secret roles, please don't make them miraculous Deus Ex Machinas that appear out of the blue, save a faction from defeat at the last moment and turn the tables completely. Being 100% in the clear one day and 100% in trouble during the next one for reasons you couldn't possibly control feels like a kick in the teeth.

2013-10-21 11:53:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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I don't intend to have any hidden roles. There will be new roles, and some may be replaced, but they will all be defined from the start.

2013-10-21 11:58:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Congrats, I hate you all. :3 (Looking for the cat picture from the first game )

2013-10-21 12:37:00 Author: DawnBreaker_23 Posts: 568

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I do see the passive lecture aimed at me in your comment, SnipySev, but just remember that you would've won, had you not messed up with the mafia kills four times in a row and as far as I am concerned, you dictated them all by yourself. You can't blame the extra-roles for that.

2013-10-21 13:03:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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VICTORY!!!!! Good game and with this revived series of games I count 2-2 in terms of victories. My only hope is that in the next game we get rid of the trader role.

2013-10-21 16:13:00 Author: Shooter0898 Posts: 996

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VICTORY!!!!! Good game and with this revived series of games I count 2-2 in terms of victories. My only hope is that in the next game we get rid of the trader role. First new role announced: The Introvert Trader Can trade abilities once per game. But due to shyness/lack of social skills, can only trade roles with him/herself.

2013-10-21 16:28:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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http://cdn.arwrath.com/6/67739.gif Well done, civilians. You win this time. About the next game, I think we should wait a bit longer. People are clearly losing interest in the game, as evidenced by the dwindling number of players. And the fact that there were so many roles for so few people was one of the things that made this game a mess, at least behind the scenes. Oh, and to the host of the next game: if you're going to implement secret roles, please don't make them miraculous Deus Ex Machinas that appear out of the blue, save a faction from defeat at the last moment and turn the tables completely. Being 100% in the clear one day and 100% in trouble during the next one for reasons you couldn't possibly control feels like a kick in the teeth. I agree that some kind of break should be held in order to rally up more of a thirst to play it. I think I actually suggested this idea after the last game, I'm not sure, I maybe only uttered it to my fellow mafia pals but I do think it's necessary. As for the roles thing, I somewhat agree. I think that in this game, the fault was with the mafia who were in control but lost their way. However, that being said, had such roles as the Buddy Cops not been killed off so early, much much better off would the civvies had been? Lastly, a big applause for Freeaim who did run the game very well and clearly put a lot of time and effort into it. Thank you Freeaim

2013-10-21 16:38:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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I agree with Snipy about the "Deus Ex Machina" roles. A couple cool roles are cool, but I don't like the idea of roles that can roll the dice in the favor of their specified roles too easily. Just makes me roll my eyes, rolely. Anyway, if we don't have Mafia, why not another game? :kz:

2013-10-21 17:32:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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I do see the passive lecture aimed at me in your comment, SnipySev, but just remember that you would've won, had you not messed up with the mafia kills four times in a row and as far as I am concerned, you dictated them all by yourself. You can't blame the extra-roles for that. As a matter of fact, I can blame the extra roles. At least partially. Butter's role allowed him to prove he was innocent. Shooter being saved by the ice cream man's van also heavily implied he was innocent. Thanks to this, the civvies knew who not to kill, which is almost as important as knowing who to kill. By the time the ice cream-man came into action, there were three civilians left. We couldn't kill mega because that would prove he was in fact a civilian, and would completely derail our gambit. Both for me and for Shooter, choosing the target at night basically became a game of luck with a 50-50 chance of success. Hell, if we hadn't convinced you to even out the odds and if I hadn't bought some time by impersonating the ice cream man, mega would've come forward and then all the mafiosos' cover would have been completely blown. Just like that, without any of us even having made a mistake. I know you wanted the civvies to be less helpless and I understand that. But in my honest opinion, you went completely overboard with it. Until now, this was the game with the least amount of players, but the largest amount of special roles.

2013-10-21 18:59:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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In addition to what Snipy said, next game we shouldn't post people the doctor saves in the newspaper.

2013-10-21 19:33:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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How about a role called the hypnotist who can change the allegiance of a civvie at some point in the game :3 The Scientist who can change to any role without people knowing, but can only do so once. The politician whose vote counts twice (this isn't shown to the other players) The ninja who can escape death once to further obscure the identity of the doctor The Abductor who can stop one persons vote from counting. #amazingatcreatingOProles

2013-10-21 19:52:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872

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How about a role called the hypnotist who can change the allegiance of a civvie at some point in the game :3 The Scientist who can change to any role without people knowing, but can only do so once. The politician whose vote counts twice (this isn't shown to the other players) The ninja who can escape death once to further obscure the identity of the doctor The Abductor who can stop one persons vote from counting. #amazingatcreatingOProles I like the politician that'd be an interesting role to play. Also, yayz. Me and shooter walked off into the sunset together. Actually I most likely slithered. Only through complete ridiculous abuse of roles did we manage to get this far, but frankly. I wouldn't have it any other way. Thanks Freeaim for this one. :3

2013-10-21 20:08:00 Author: butter-kicker Posts: 1061

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How about a role called the hypnotist who can change the allegiance of a civvie at some point in the game :3 The Scientist who can change to any role without people knowing, but can only do so once. The politician whose vote counts twice (this isn't shown to the other players) The ninja who can escape death once to further obscure the identity of the doctor The Abductor who can stop one persons vote from counting. #amazingatcreatingOProles the plitician and abductor roles sound pretty cool. I doubt theyd be in the next game tho because they both sound like a hidden role

2013-10-21 20:43:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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Not wanting to argue or anything, Snipy, but Butter's role wasn't an extra role. In fact, the only extra role to bear any significance in the game was the ice-cream man. Even then, you were given the knowledge so you could imitate him, you could have teamed up with Jedi and Dawn to have 50/50 chance at voting out a civilian, which means you would've won, you could have tried to kill the civilians as the mafioso, you could have used the suspicion Shooter and Butter had against Mega when you had the chance to end the game... You were given far more options than the civilians were at any point of game, so I have to say that it's not my fault that you lost. I have to confess that I am honestly not the best at taking criticism, to tell the truth, but I always try to listen when people make complaints or protest. Heck, I did listen and I did give you the powers to use when I realized your situation turned way too dire. You may argue that you couldn't actively keep track of all the special roles and that'd be fair enough, but you can't argue that I was, in any point of game unfair to a side or another. If the case is that I confused you, I apologize. I had easier time to keep track of things as the game-master in every conceivable way, so I may have underestimated the effects the roles had (though only three of those roles actually affected the game). However, if the case is that you think I was unfair, if this wasn't a family-friendly forum I would have a clear thought in my head what I would tell you to do, but as this isn't the case, I have to simply ask you to understand the game from an objective perspective and think that maybe the fault is not the one's who holds the game. If you kick another person in the head while playing football (or soccer, if you are an American), even if that is an accident, you may argue that the red card isn't fair, but if you really think about it, you may have just deserved it. I thank all the participants for playing, ranting and arguing with each others and me during the game. It was a truly tremendous experience I will never want to repeat (nothing to do with you, you were all great). Now, to put my input in terms of the roles suggested, I will simply say which in my opinion can work or can't work. The abductor could work, but it would be really weird and would only be really useful when it comes to two folks tying in votes. The true question is: is this a mafia-role or a civilian-role? The ninja is quite strange as well, but I don't think it would have any effect on the game in the grand scheme of things. The politician would be either quickly revealed or would never have an impact, so I doubt it would add anything to the game. The hypnotist could work in any game where the number of civilians is at least four times higher than that of the mafiosi in the beginning of the game. Now this is a game I do like! I like new role-ideas, apart from the classic role-blockers etc.

2013-10-21 21:49:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Not wanting to argue or anything, Snipy, but Butter's role wasn't an extra role. In fact, the only extra role to bear any significance in the game was the ice-cream man. Even then, you were given the knowledge so you could imitate him, you could have teamed up with Jedi and Dawn to have 50/50 chance at voting out a civilian, which means you would've won, you could have tried to kill the civilians as the mafioso, you could have used the suspicion Shooter and Butter had against Mega when you had the chance to end the game... You were given far more options than the civilians were at any point of game, so I have to say that it's not my fault that you lost. Yeah, we had options. Did we have good options? That's up for debate. Blowing our cover and taking the 50/50 chance? As you had the chance to witness, relying on luck isn't the best plan. Killing civilians as the mafioso? We were mafiosos and we did try to kill civilians, so I'm not sure what you mean by that. Trying to get Shooter and Butter to turn against mega? I did try to do that. I tried to make them consider the possibility that there was one civilian left and it could be either Dawn or Jedi, remember? I have to confess that I am honestly not the best at taking criticism, to tell the truth, but I always try to listen when people make complaints or protest. Heck, I did listen and I did give you the powers to use when I realized your situation turned way too dire. Yes, you gave us power in the form of information. I put that information to good use by impersonating the ice-cream man. It worked. Shooter and Butter were going to vote out mega. And when it looked like we were on the path to victory again, you post this: PS: Figure your way out of this paper-bag, folks. Just for clarification, here's the final reveal I will make about this game: I would never give away an advantage to one side without granting the other side one as well. Which made Butter realize that I could be a mafioso impersonating the ice cream man. Which put us in a dire situation. Again. In short: up to day 6 the mafia was in the clear and everything was going smoothly. It looked like we were going to win, and all we needed to do was deliver the final blow. Then, you introduce the ice-cream man, who not only saves the civilians in a Deus Ex Machina fashion, but in doing so also attains knowledge he could use to blow our cover. The mafia goes from being near victorious to being in danger of defeat, overnight. We complain about this, you acknowledge the issue and give us a power to even out the odds. We use that power to successfully evade the problem and even manage to return to the state of near-victory. And then, you drop a massive hint to the civilians that puts us right back into the critical situation we had just escaped from. If you don't think this game was ridiculously messy and unbalanced, then yeah, you probably don't take criticism very well. By the way, this has nothing to do with the fact that we lost. Ultimately, the thing that caused us to lose was our failure to predict which civ Shooter saved, four times. I'm not contesting that. I can't be frustrated about losing after someone anticipated our choices so well. What I'm complaining about is that you implemented a role at the last moment which miraculously saved one faction and almost doomed the other. Seeing the mafia suddenly go from nearly victorious to nearly defeated for reasons which were completely out of our control was a thousand times more frustrating than losing. I'm not even the only one making this point. Butter agrees the special roles were abused and he's one of the winners. That says a lot.

2013-10-22 02:52:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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The trader is a beauitiful role. I strongly suggest using it. Speaking of suggestions, I won't be able to play the next game because of college. So here's a role I would want in the game. The Gardener Reveals a person's role (not him/her self) 2 times in a game. This can change everything if used right.

2013-10-22 06:45:00 Author: jarreguin001 Posts: 351

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The trader is a beauitiful role. I strongly suggest using it. Speaking of suggestions, I won't be able to play the next game because of college. So here's a role I would want in the game. The Gardener Reveals a person's role (not him/her self) 2 times in a game. This can change everything if used right. doesn't the sheriff do that?

2013-10-22 08:47:00 Author: megaextremist Posts: 221

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I had a very long post here, detailing why most of your points are invalid, why you really lost and other game-related stuff, but I won't post any of that here, because in the end, it wouldn't make any difference. You would hold on to your opinions and I would hold on to mine, but none of that really matters at this point anymore. Snipy, do you want to make up and say good game to the civilians in a good sportsmanship and not just tell them they have done well? It was your game too, after all.

2013-10-22 09:06:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Ok, here are the roles I intend to add: Role Blocker - I know it's a bit of an "unexciting" role, but it has been a staple in mafia games I've played elswhere: Town Mayor - Once per game, the Mayor can choose to cancel the town lynching, if he/she is not happy with the result of the votes. Hmmmm, sounds more like a Corrupt Town Mayor, doesn't it? Cursed Civilian (Working title) - Once killed by either party, this person spends one day in limbo. They are allowed to have tactical input in the next day's discussion, but cannot vote. The last two I've made up. Thoughts, folks? [Also, has this site been down all day or is it just my work PC being crappy?]

2013-10-22 18:25:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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I had a very long post here, detailing why most of your points are invalid, why you really lost and other game-related stuff, but I won't post any of that here, because in the end, it wouldn't make any difference. You would hold on to your opinions and I would hold on to mine, but none of that really matters at this point anymore. Snipy, do you want to make up and say good game to the civilians in a good sportsmanship and not just tell them they have done well? It was your game too, after all. ... Seriously? You're unable to admit your deus ex machina role screwed up the game? That goes beyond not taking criticism well, that's just putting your head in the sand and not letting anyone tell you your idea blew.

2013-10-22 19:07:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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I don't know what to name it, but what about a role that can raise a dead person back to life once in the game? Also, the Town Mayor role would be great to add, especially if you didn't tell which side you add it to, so it could be either a civilian or a mafioso. Ehehe. Do what you wish with it, just an idea. PS: Yes. The site was down for 9 hours. EDIT: RockSauron, with all due respect I don't find your input here is valid, as you didn't actually participate in the game. Whether the extra role ruined the game for someone (which wasn't without weakness, so it wasn't Deus Ex Machina, I assure you) is not for me to decide, but the way I see it, both factions had an equal chance at winning the game at every turn. Would the game have been ruined if the mafia had won? Answer me honestly. It was up to chance at the end, really.

2013-10-22 19:10:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Snipy, do you want to make up and say good game to the civilians in a good sportsmanship and not just tell them they have done well? It was your game too, after all. Telling people they played well isn't a sign of good sportsmanship? That's news to me. I'm not going to harbor resentment over things that happened in a game played for fun. I'm not that kind of person. You just won't hear me saying that I found this game balanced or well-organized. That's all.

2013-10-22 19:10:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Good to hear--- erm, see (?) that. I am not the one person to judge someone else's opinions. Honestly though, just for the sake of understanding your point of view better, if you had guessed the right person to kill during the last chance given, would we be having this discussion?

2013-10-22 19:35:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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Yes. We also had this discussion in the mafia chat after the ice cream man saved the civilians, remember?

2013-10-22 20:20:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Can I ask, why were advantages given to either side in he first place?

2013-10-22 23:04:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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Craigmond, that is the point of the entire discussion here. From my point of view, no side got an advantage over the other.

2013-10-23 08:28:00 Author: FreeAim Posts: 2462

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