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Its easy for me, I have Vanquish, and its awesome. Keeps you ocuppied.2011-04-25 14:25:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260

...you do realize when they say "go outside" they mean to do stuff, not necessarily literally, but to get your face out of teh screen and do something else.

saying "I'm outside a lot, playing portable videogames all day" is not really something to different to sayin 'I sit at home all day playing videogames," you know?

They mostly mean to get up and do something productive rather than play videogames all day, m8.

Also, again, its not like you lost complete online acess to anything, you still got everything else functioning other than PSN.

Come on, if I could survive nearly a year with 0 onine acess (not internet, no nothing.) you guys should be able to easly take down a mere week WITH internet, just PSN-less, right?
Or is that too difficult for you...?

If you got nothing to do, draw, help your family with chores, do whatever, its not like there's NOTHING to do, there's always things to d, or someone that may need help, so don't give me that excuse.

I don't think you get what I meant, and where did you get that I was playing games on a portable device. I was just saying I'm not at home looking at the screen waiting for something to happen, I check my IPhone from time to time.

What I was saying is how do people know if we are not on a hike looking at our phone while checking the status of what's going on. Honestly I've been 1 year without Internet. It's not the end of the world. That's the point I was trying to make. Its just I don't think anyone knows who is really doing what, that they shouldn't say go outside to someone who can easily be doing something very productive at the time they were online. It only takes 2 minutes to open a browser and check.

I just think it's funny when people say go outside. If you look throughout the thread they are usually the ones that post the most. To be honest with you nobody has any idea what I'm doing when I'm on here. What if I'm on the crapper while I'm writing this right now.

Ya it sucks not being able to go online and play games with friends but it is definatly not the apocalypse. Let them take a month to fix it, who cares. If we get a more secure network I'm game.


Bottom line, if your part of a forum your most likely an avid gamer. Your definatly not someone who plays once a
month.		2011-04-25 14:27:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I don't think you get what I meant, and where did you get that I was playing games on a portable device. I was just saying I'm not at home looking at the screen waiting for something to happen, I check my IPhone from time to time.

What I was saying is how do people know if we are not on a hike looking at our phone while checking the status of what's going on. Honestly I've been 1 year without Internet. It's not the end of the world. That's the point I was trying to make. Its just I don't think anyone knows who is really doing what, that they shouldn't say go outside to someone who can easily be doing something very productive at the time they were online. It only takes 2 minutes to open a browser and check.

I just think it's funny when people say go outside. If you look throughout the thread they are usually the ones that post the most. To be honest with you nobody has any idea what I'm doing when I'm on here. What if I'm on the crapper while I'm writing this right now.

Ya it sucks not being able to go online and play games with friends but it is definatly not the apocalypse. Let them take a month to fix it, who cares. If we get a more secure network I'm game.


Bottom line, if your part of a forum your most likely an avid gamer. Your definatly not someone who plays once a
month.


...actually, I think its been more than a month since I played LBP2
Heck, I haven't played PS3 in about a week or two, just played recently because I got Portal 2, but other than that, I don't think I'd played PS3 at all in a while.

And as you can tell by that green bar to my left, I'm a rather active member of this site...
So, yeah, just as you say we shouldn't assume how everyone else is, you shouldn't either.
(Man, why do people always fall into hypocrisy so easily? xD
Heck i probably did without noticing. )		2011-04-25 14:31:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

...actually, I think its been more than a month since I played LBP2
Heck, I haven't played PS3 in about a week or two, just played recently because I got Portal 2, but other than that, I don't think I'd played PS3 at all in a while.

And as you can tell by that green bar to my left, I'm a rather active member of this site...
So, yeah, just as you say we shouldn't assume how everyone else is, you shouldn't either.
(Man, why do people always fall into hypocrisy so easily? xD
Heck i probably did without noticing. )


Yes I fall victim of hypocrisy sometimes. I'm not trying to argue with you at all. That is exactly why I didn't say its a set it stone fact, I used the words "most likely". The only point I was trying to make is that it's nobody's bussiness if you are inside or outside or whatever it is you do. The network is down and it sucks because there are a lot of kids who had April vacation and wanted to play some online with games they had bought this week. Again someone can argue "they should find something else to do(go outside)". Sometimes I say to myself on Friday I'm gaming all weekend long. And then there were times where my friends would call me and say you haven't been on in 60 days. I do feel bad for the diehard fans of the games that were released this week. I'm sure they were mad as hell they couldn't battle it out with some multiplayer. I mean think of how some of us would feel if Lbp2 released and during that week and weekend there was no community. I'm sure some people would be devastated.

Every one has their own opinion. You have yours I have mine. If we all thought the same this world wouldn't be interesting. Thanks for making my morning interesting lol .		2011-04-25 15:04:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I'm away from my PS3 anyway. But I tend to be active on LBPC alot when I am away, but sometime do both.

For the time being, I'm on easter holiday for 2 weeks. I on my dongle, sucks how it loads because load up every page of LBPC takes about Brad's (That's my Name) random guess, 3 Minutes.

I do listen Music and going outside. I was thinking that I gonna draw, could be a concept (Is that you call it?) on a new level or other random things, but cannot make up my mind.		2011-04-25 15:15:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

http://japan.tweetmeme.com/story/4819528557/psn-playstation-network-will-be-back-up-monday-in-japan-tuesday-in-us-and-europe-100gf-politics-and-computers

Hooray!
Its extremely rainy where i live, so I can complain.

:SH:		2011-04-25 15:24:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769

Hm, this is interesting:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2z8doar.png

There's no verifiable reason the connection would be unsecured! Although Internet Explorer displays the "PlayStation Network is currently unavailable" message, using an invalid security certificate for the store, especially right now, is suspicious. Any second opinions?		2011-04-25 16:44:00

Author:
Unknown User

Hm, this is interesting:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2z8doar.png

There's no verifiable reason the connection would be unsecured! Although Internet Explorer displays the "PlayStation Network is currently unavailable" message, using an invalid security certificate for the store, especially right now, is suspicious. Any second opinions?



thats intresting could hackers have done that		2011-04-25 16:53:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

Cue mandatory speculation and conspiracy?2011-04-25 17:07:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

O hi, I fixed your post too. Also, this "Sony doesnt have to explain anything to its consumers" BS makes you look like a tool. Every customer should ALWAYS ask questions about its corporations, get their reasons when something goes down, and keep informed, otherwise we condemn ourselves to an informational void. If we don't ask questions, we will recieve no answers.

Have you asked Sony anything?


I dont have a grocery list of unreasonable demands- I jsut want to iknow whats going on, and for people to stop twisting my words.

I bear no regrets or apologies. The two posts I corrected were people spouting the same old tired rhetoric that has been said in this thread a dozen times- "Go outside", "Play offline", etc.

Those two statements blew my mind - especially after you edited my post to fit your own "tired rhetoric." My post had relevant info about SONY's revenue implications and why it would be important for them to fix the problem. Please point out where I mentioned "going outside" or "playing offline." Oh, you then called me a tool.

You can call me names and ask whatever you want. I'm not concerned with that. If you really want answers from SONY, contact the Better Business Bureau or the Attorney General. Those are your rights as a consumer. Google it.

Also, SONY has provided the following information:

There is a problem
They are working to fix it

I know you mentioned this, but us knowing what the problem is will not help them fix the problem. And publicly identifying the cause may make them more vulnerable to future attacks.

Also, once you start insulting those with a different view than yours, you lose credibility. Have fun trolling.		2011-04-25 17:11:00

Author:
shane_danger
Posts: 283

Any second opinions?

Either your browser doesn't have the root certificate in its store, or the server isn't providing the full certification chain (see this page (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/275878/firefox-and-ssl-sec-error-unknown-issuer)), OR you're a victim of DNS poisoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_cache_poisoning) - it's tough to tell just from that error message.		2011-04-25 17:28:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

Either your browser doesn't have the root certificate in its store, or the server isn't providing the full certification chain (see this page (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/275878/firefox-and-ssl-sec-error-unknown-issuer)), OR you're a victim of DNS poisoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_cache_poisoning) - it's tough to tell just from that error message.

It's not a result of DNS poisoning, as this has happened with 2 different PCs. Firefox simply says the provider of the certificate cannot be verified. I've never seen this warning on the sign in dialogue page before, and basically this boils down to 2 possible causes: the fact that the actual sign-in system is down or an outside attacker has somehow compromised the system. I'm remaining in speculation until we get some proper news from Sony.

And here's a traceroute to store.playstation.com if anyone's interested.

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33398&d=1303749937

Why would the subdomain of Prolexic be "unknown?"		2011-04-25 17:40:00

Author:
Unknown User

It's not a result of DNS poisoning, as this has happened with 2 different PCs.

Unless those two PCs are on different networks, that's no proof, but it's pretty unlikely anyway. An authoritative lookup, starting with a "whois" on playstation.com yields...


$ whois playstation.com

...

Domain Name: PLAYSTATION.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS1.SCEA.COM
Name Server: NS2.SCEA.COM
Name Server: NS3.SCEA.COM
Name Server: NS4.SCEA.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 07-jul-2010
Creation Date: 14-jan-1997
Expiration Date: 13-jan-2013

..which looks valid, and a couple of digs yield...


$ dig @NS1.SCEA.COM store.playstation.com.

...

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
store.playstation.com. 3600 IN NS ns3.sonynei.net.
store.playstation.com. 3600 IN NS ns4.sonynei.net.
store.playstation.com. 3600 IN NS ns1.sonynei.net.
store.playstation.com. 3600 IN NS ns2.sonynei.net.

...

$ dig @ns1.sonynei.net. store.playstation.com

...

;; ANSWER SECTION:
store.playstation.com. 300 IN A 72.52.6.11

...which is an IP address assigned to Prolexic, which would seem to make sense.

I notice the record only has a 5 minute TTL, so perhaps Prolexic change it from time-to-time as another means to thwart DoS attacks, which might cause DNS pinning issues in some browsers.



Firefox simply says the provider of the certificate cannot be verified.

Yes, but it doesn't say why. SSL is pretty complex, so you'd need to check out the whole certification path to see what's going wrong. I make it...


USERTrust

PositiveSSL CA

store.playstation.com




...so if you get something else, then that may be a problem.



I've never seen this warning on the sign in dialogue page before, and basically this boils down to 2 possible causes: the fact that the actual sign-in system is down or an outside attacker has somehow compromised the system. I'm remaining in speculation until we get some proper news from Sony.

Well, the sign-in system is still down - I get a valid page to that effect when I visit that URL. The reason for the error is more likely due to a internal change than an external intruder, particularly as Sony say they have been making changes to the system.



Why would the subdomain of Prolexic be "unknown?"

For whatever reason they've just chosen to return that string in the PTR record for most of the IP addresses in their allocated block (72.52.0.0 - 72.52.63.255), so I wouldn't read anything into it - they're not even obligated to return a PTR record at all.		2011-04-25 18:12:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

Yo, Aya, What's going on? I don't get it. I never knew anything about servers.

So somewhat hackers modified the IP address? Just guessing...		2011-04-25 18:31:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

So somewhat hackers modified the IP address? Just guessing...

No evidence of any hacker activity at all.		2011-04-25 18:49:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

PSN Still down without no return timeframe

A new update today didn't provide any additional information; most importantly, there is still no estimate being shared publicly for when service will resume. "As we previously noted, this is a time intensive process and we're working to get them back online quickly," wrote Sony's Patrick Seybold. "We'll keep you updated with information as it becomes available. We once again thank you for your patience."

We're coming up on a full of week of downtime for PSN (and Qriocity). It's prevented at least two Capcom games from being played due to DRM that requires an active internet connection. Perhaps even more frustratingly, anyone seeking to redeem the free PC copy of Portal 2 that comes with the PlayStation 3 version is unable to do so -- the process requires connecting the PS3 game to Steam, which itself requires access to PSN. So unless you were able to redeem it before PSN went down, you're stuck playing the game offline on PS3 until further notice.

What's most concerning of all is that there has been no official word on whether or not users with billing information attached to their PSN accounts should be worried about it falling into the wrong hands. Hopefully an update will soon shed some light on that situation and offered up some sort of estimate for when PlayStation owners will be getting back online.

On the bright side, today's Penny Arcade strip on the situation is pretty good.		2011-04-25 19:02:00

Author:
Sabre_
Posts: 653

Apparently some people are able to get on PSN as of now2011-04-25 19:36:00

Author:
Sonik42
Posts: 76

Apparently some people are able to get on PSN as of now

What?!? How so?		2011-04-25 20:19:00

Author:
anoken
Posts: 1654

What?!? How so?

I guess Sony is transferring the PSN accounts to the new server now		2011-04-25 20:32:00

Author:
Sonik42
Posts: 76

@Sonik 42
THE new server?		2011-04-25 20:46:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332

YO!! :eek:

Really? Will our stuffs we earned will be lost? Trophys, downloads, cash?

Well, that something you don't see around the corner daily...		2011-04-25 21:00:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

Seeing as my PSN starts with an "A", I hope I'm one of the first, assuming it's alphabetical. If the rumor of people being able to sign is true, I just died of happiness. I just got an hd tv and everything looks amazing, so I can only imagine LBP 2's community levels looking great.2011-04-25 21:53:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164

YO!!

Really? Will our stuffs we earned will be lost? Trophys, downloads, cash?

Well, that something you don't see around the corner daily...

Probably not, just our online stuff. We'll probably only have to re-share our levels on LBP and re-decorate our planets. The trophies, possibly.

Downloads and monies are probably save to the PS3 itself.		2011-04-25 21:53:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319

The trophies, possibly.
Well, all your trophies are stored locally, so I think that you'll just need to re-sync them to your account, no problemo.		2011-04-25 21:59:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

Well, all your trophies are stored locally, so I think that you'll just need to re-sync them to your account, no problemo.

The only problems would be if you've changed PS3 and the servers have been wiped before you've sync'd them back but even something as trivial as trophies should have regular backups so losses should be minimal.		2011-04-25 22:08:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Have you asked Sony anything?



Those two statements blew my mind - especially after you edited my post to fit your own "tired rhetoric." My post had relevant info about SONY's revenue implications and why it would be important for them to fix the problem. Please point out where I mentioned "going outside" or "playing offline." Oh, you then called me a tool.

You can call me names and ask whatever you want. I'm not concerned with that. If you really want answers from SONY, contact the Better Business Bureau or the Attorney General. Those are your rights as a consumer. Google it.

Also, SONY has provided the following information:

There is a problem
They are working to fix it

I know you mentioned this, but us knowing what the problem is will not help them fix the problem. And publicly identifying the cause may make them more vulnerable to future attacks.

Also, once you start insulting those with a different view than yours, you lose credibility. Have fun trolling.

Becasue clearly, someone who openly disagrees with another opinion is just a troll amirite? Thats a pretty crude way to simply dismiss any opinion you don't like.

Yes, I HAVE asked sony things. Lots of things. Chiefly, I want details.

The post was edited to add the last two sentences. I changed nothing in the post.

Why do you assume I am going to call you names? have I called anyone in this thread names yet? Other than saying it made you look like a tool when you implied that we should blindly accept ecerything we are told at face value and expect nothing more? I did not say "Youre a tool", i said you looked like one when you said that. Nice hyperbole though.

Really? Thats the information I'm supposed to be satisfied with? I wouldnt take that kind of answer from my mechanic and I expect more from Sony as well. If my car is in the shop for six days, and I ask the mechanic why my car is taking so long to fix, they better tell me more than "There is a problem. We are working to fix it."

Err. So identifying your attacker makes you more vulnerable to them? That doesnt sound screwy to you? Like at all? I would think that identifying your attacker would make it easier for OTHERS to avoid them, or for legal entities to become involved. Maybe even inspire some white-hat vigilantes to take action (For those who dont know what that means, a black-hat is considered an "evil" hacker, someone who attacks servers, makes viruses, steals information, etc, while a white-hat is a "good" hacker, one who works to stop attacks, infiltrates black-hats and warns their targets, and builds counterintrusion software.) Perhaps identifying the exact specifications and code in their system that is vulnerable is not wise, but no one is asking for specifics. They wont even tell us what service was attacked. Theyve been slightly more forthcoming with details over the past day or two, but its a bit late in coming.

And I suppose calling me a troll is, in your book, not insulting someone? Have fun being a hypocrite.		2011-04-25 22:24:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

I would have to agree with Ion on this one. Where did she call anyone a name, yet she has been repeatedly been called a troll. For what? Because she is tired of waiting and stateing her opinions on the matter. Everyone is saying "do something else, go outside, stop complaining!" No, we dont want to. Some of work ALL day outside, would like to come home after a long day and play our game with one of the features that every box displays "online play". And for all those righteous people that repeatly tell people to do something else....what are YOU doing aside from living on this particular post. Some people are SO BRAVE and OUTSPOKEN while on forum, but in the real world...most are as timid as can be.2011-04-25 22:37:00

Author:
sascha_winter
Posts: 163

Other than saying it made you look like a tool when you implied that we should blindly accept ecerything we are told at face value and expect nothing more? I did not say "Youre a tool", i said you looked like one when you said that. Nice hyperbole though.

And I suppose calling me a troll is, in your book, not insulting someone? Have fun being a hypocrite.

So, you correct him by saying you didn't call him a tool, you just said he looked like one.

He said, "have fun trolling." and you say he called you a troll...sounds like he didn't call you a troll, he just stated something he felt you were doing....soo...uummm...ya.

I would say we all stop talking until there is something new to discuss. It is just a bunch of arguments now. Sony has not released any new info, so what else is there really to talk about at the moment?		2011-04-25 22:47:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

so what else is there really to talk about at the moment?

I dunno, we could maybe attempt to claw out each others' eyes some more - I've heard that normally helps in these situations



No evidence of any hacker activity at all.

The official statement (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/) saying "external intrusion" sounds a hell of a lot like a euphemism for hackers or some other form of net-based scallywags... What that actually means in real terms is anyone's guess right now...		2011-04-25 22:48:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

You can't think of this as being all bad.

Just think, now that the server must be rebuilt, theres room for improvment!
Perhaps the feature of paying to change your PSN ID could be implemented?		2011-04-25 22:49:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918

Probably not, just our online stuff. We'll probably only have to re-share our levels on LBP and re-decorate our planets. The trophies, possibly.

Downloads and monies are probably save to the PS3 itself.

Please, hope it does not get rid of LBP levels online.
Mm would go bonkers if I ever saw the reaction if these levels randomly lost. D:		2011-04-25 22:56:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

I dunno, we could maybe attempt to claw out each others' eyes some more - I've heard that normally helps in these situations




The official statement (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/) saying "external intrusion" sounds a hell of a lot like a euphemism for hackers or some other form of net-based scallywags... What that actually means in real terms is anyone's guess right now...

Because the official story is always true.		2011-04-25 22:57:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

Just think, now that the server must be rebuilt, theres room for improvment!
Perhaps the feature of paying to change your PSN ID could be implemented?
But then I'd have no excuse for sticking with my crappy username




Because the official story is always true.

Assuming sarcasm here, so I feel obliged to respond in kind: You want official info from Sony, but wouldn't believe it if it comes? Sounds totally sensible... Yes indeed.		2011-04-25 22:58:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

As for deleting LBP levels that are published:

Honestly, its been needing a cleaning house for some time now. 2 million levels, and only a few thousand are worth playing. I, personally wouldnt be upset to see the LBP1 levels wiped- I had a few really good and well liked LBP1 levels, but they are extremely dated and honestly I dont even play them myself any more. Out with the old, in with the new, as they say. The only levels coming out of LBP1 now are "HART DIS IF PS3 IZ BETAR DEN XBOX!!" and "H4H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". ALl the good creators migrated to LBP2 long ago, leaving... well, the rest. ANyone with really good levels has them saved on their moon anyway, which is stored on your hard drive. Simply republish them.

Once sony starts providing me with reality and facts, I will start believing them. Until then I remain dubious of anything they say. Aya and myself and a few other people have done whois and traceroutes to the playstation functions and they seem to be working, thus to put it in aya's words, there is no proof of hackers being involved. THey may simply have fixed it already, or they may have lied about the whole thing. Pick whichever option helps you sleep.		2011-04-25 23:02:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

Whoa, I can't believe you guys are still complaining about this.

Guys, you do realize there's more to life games, right? It may **** us off because of the fortunate circumstances we're in right now, but there's no need to start losing it because you can't get online. Just go outside, have fun, and deal with it (not trying to sound offensive here).

2011-04-25 23:30:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

But then I'd have no excuse for sticking with my crappy username

Yeah, I only have this name cause I got annoyed when the names I wanted were taken I was supposed to spell jeopardy, but I didn't give it much taught a the time		2011-04-25 23:35:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486

This PSN outage has actually been very good for me. In the time PSN was out, i have made lots of guitar covers on my YouTube channel. It also made me realise how addicting LBP2 is for me.. Once I start playing, it's very hard for me to put it down and go do something else.2011-04-25 23:40:00

Author:
robbit10
Posts: 450

Just seen an interesting article:

Rumor: 'Rebug' custom firmware enabled 'free' PSN downloads, forced Sony's network shutdown (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/25/rumor-rebug-custom-firmware-enabled-free-psn-downloads-for/)

Hopefully Sony will respond to this but I doubt they will.		2011-04-25 23:59:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920

Aya and myself and a few other people have done whois and traceroutes to the playstation functions and they seem to be working, thus to put it in aya's words, there is no proof of hackers being involved.
Can't say I fully see how whois or traceroutes would actually contradict (or support) the official statement in any way - so I see no real reason to not just take the official statement (as vague and useless as it is) on face value until anything else comes to light. As I see it, it's that or just invent your own story for it, in which case I'm totally going to the standard fallback position that unicorns did it

As for helping me sleep... PSN being down for a few days really isn't gonna lose me any sleep, but thanks for your concern.



Guys, you do realize there's more to life [than] games, right?

You take that back - you take that back right now!		2011-04-26 00:01:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

It is unfortunate, but it doesn't matter much. I've found that if you expect the network to be down everyday, you're never really disappointed when it is not up. Pessimism will make your life better....2011-04-26 00:10:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Oy, this is being blown WAY out of proportion. It's ok to be mad about the psn being down, I am too, but all of you all arguing isn't going to make the servers come up again! I'm not trying to be rude, but this is what yall sound like:

Person_101: Oh my gosh I wish psn was up. it was anon.
Person_102:NO! It was SONY! i wish psn was up!
Person_103:It was SONY and Anon.
person_101:YOUR A LIAR PERSON_103!!!
Person_105:I HATE YOU GUYS!!!!!Y isnt psn up yet?
person_109:It was just simply sony trying to play it safe from hackers for a while, duh!
person_104:Opinions are like A-holes, Everyones got 'em, and they ALL stink! (LOL)

No offense to any of the people who posted comments like this, I just wanted to get my point across. Please no bad feedback! :SD (Guy with a mustache!)		2011-04-26 00:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

COrrect you are, sir2011-04-26 00:17:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

Hey guys, I just realized something: two (or more) weeks ago, a guy said he was going to DOSS attack this site. A day later, the site went down for a day. Now, Anonymous said they were going to take down the PSN. A day later, it went down.

So, what does this mean? It means that companies and hosts have very bad timing when they decide to do maintenance! 		2011-04-26 00:29:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Hey guys, I just realized something: two (or more) weeks ago, a guy said he was going to DOSS attack this site. A day later, the site went down for a day.


I remember seeing that post too! I thought that guy was actually going to do it too but I didn't know what to do about it and he didn't seem he'd be worth arguing with. I didn't know that the PSN made "Maintenance" interchangeable with "External Intrusion." 		2011-04-26 00:41:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

Just go outside, have fun, and deal with it..




*Looks at local time.. 1:42 AM*
*looks outside.. Pitch black, no moon even*

Yea.. Lets get outside.. maybe I get mugged.. or stabbed.. or.. or..


2011-04-26 00:42:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

*Looks at local time.. 1:42 AM*
*looks outside.. Pitch black, no moon even*

Yea.. Lets get outside.. maybe I get mugged.. or stabbed.. or.. or..



What? Action! 		2011-04-26 00:44:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

Guys, you do realize there's more to life games, right? It may **** us off because of the fortunate circumstances we're in right now, but there's no need to start losing it because you can't get online. Just go outside, have fun, and deal with it (not trying to sound offensive here).


Sigh.... Did you even read the last page or two?

Like... at all?!		2011-04-26 00:58:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

You know what's fun? Having xbox friends constantly trying to trick you with "Oh hey, did you notice your PSN is back online now?"
Am I the only one being tortured by them?		2011-04-26 01:09:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386

You know what's fun? Having xbox friends constantly trying to trick you with "Oh hey, did you notice your PSN is back online now?"
Am I the only one being tortured by them?

You're not alone! All my main 360 friends laugh when I mention the servers are down... They just don't understand...		2011-04-26 01:14:00

Author:
UberOrbPS
Posts: 290

Don't know if everyone already knew about this or saw it:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/25/did-sony-shut-down-psn-to-combat-piracy.aspx		2011-04-26 01:16:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193

lol I changed my Xbox live motto to 'PSN is run by monkeys' as a joke to see if any of my friends would notice.. so far nothing. Oh well, I don't think anyone read my previous post about a plausible rumour about custom firmware bringing down PSN, link below:

Rumor: 'Rebug' custom firmware enabled 'free' PSN downloads, forced Sony's network shutdown (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/25/rumor-rebug-custom-firmware-enabled-free-psn-downloads-for/)

Interesting read, but I'm keeping an open mind on that one.		2011-04-26 01:17:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920

Why can't we be friends......
Why can't we be friends......
(LOL) I ment to post this when all of you were arguing about the server being down for a couple a days and who to trust


As for your question Koing.....
You are not the only one.
-sigh-

Edit: Thanks for the information warlord		2011-04-26 01:20:00

Author:
Unknown User

I was on lbp.me and I saw the last level was published 4 days ago by D_R_A_K_0_0_7 Ghost Busters. No I don't stare at it all day but I do look from time to time to see if maybe some new levels get published. If that happens then that is a sign we are getting somewhere. That's if they started to let people on in groups or something. Yes earlier in posts I said I dont care to much if we are online. But now I'm kinda missing playing some online games. It has been quite a while. If it doesn't come back anytime soon I'm fine with watching the world crumble. Lol.2011-04-26 01:22:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

To those being mocked by the failBox community, just remind them of the christmas without live for 2 weeks!
And all those consoles in their freezers, fridges or hot water cupboards.

Hmm time to go flame myself for being such a fanboy! More like Sackfan!		2011-04-26 01:22:00

Author:
Unknown User

You know what's fun? Having xbox friends constantly trying to trick you with "Oh hey, did you notice your PSN is back online now?"
Am I the only one being tortured by them?

No.

Friend: "The PSN still down?"
Me: "Yeah. Still banned?" *Troll grin.*

/funny argument ensues		2011-04-26 01:45:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

2:50 am..
not able to create with c_mckamey..
i think im gonna go to bed early.		2011-04-26 01:49:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

To those being mocked by the failBox community, just remind them of the christmas without live for 2 weeks!
And all those consoles in their freezers, fridges or hot water cupboards.

Hmm time to go flame myself for being such a fanboy! More like Sackfan!


When I here people say they are selling their ps3 for an Xbox i get mad. There is no way I'd get rid of LBP, not just lbp but I love God of War and uncharted also. I am not into the console wars at all, I have never even played and an Xbox 360(maybe once or twice). From what I hear from friends it seems the ps3 people are much nicer. And also everytime a new game comes out I always see xbox owners positing "the graphics suck on ps3". I really like they are nuts when they say lbp sucks it's for kids. You can tell they have never played it. I'm all for people owning every system. A game is a game. I love my ps3, it would take a lot to get rid of it. I here that the Xbox contollers are better though. Even if they are I like the way the ps3 contoller feels, plus I'm so use to it.		2011-04-26 01:53:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I also would love to own all platforms and all games! But we just can't, so we chose wisely what we buy to get the best value.
Its times like these when the community of a game, everyone who plays it loves, comes together to get through the tough times!

LittleBigPlanet 4 Lyf!		2011-04-26 01:59:00

Author:
Unknown User

http://i52.tinypic.com/30wmu8m.jpg2011-04-26 02:01:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

... I here that the Xbox contollers are better though. Even if they are I like the way the ps3 contoller feels, plus I'm so use to it.
Only really play Tekken with xbox friends when I'm over with them, and I have to say, it really doesn't change that much. At least on fighting games like that, the face buttons are still 1,2,3,4 and the triggers are still triggers.. It plays like.. a controller, I guess is the way to put it. Nothing between a Xbox and PS3 controller is that different, game play wise.

Personal opinion anyway. And good to hear I'm not alone in the **** friends department!		2011-04-26 02:03:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386

LOL "Tired of having dependable, secure, free service up until Thursday? Don't want to wait another day?Trade down now for free!"2011-04-26 02:05:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

...

Wow.. I don't even feel bad for the people who just jump on that, only to probably have massive regret later on.
Or if Xbox has (another) similar issue later and is offline for a couple days. Oh my will the internet just implode under the weight of the tens of millions of collective smug smirks should that happen.

EDIT: Just noticed someone took the time to write what "PSN" stood for.		2011-04-26 02:06:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386

@Rabid-Coot LMAO who would do that, you would be losing $100 easy.

A console is for games, if you get enjoyment out of it, then its money well worth spent. If you have a lot of it you have all platforms.
Why in the world are there fanboys. You only end up recommending what you end up getting the most enjoyment from. No point pointing out flaws in one when looking at the others they all have flaws. What happened to the good old days when games were for fun and not beating the next person into oblivion with your AK-47.
My opinion, I don't care, LBP IS GOD! (to me anyway)


Edit; If only there were a button that could turn the whole internet off. Then imagine what would happen!		2011-04-26 02:08:00

Author:
Unknown User

My opinion, I don't care, LBP IS GOD! (to me anyway)
Praise the lord. Praise the lord
Speak the truth my brother.
(LOL)

2011-04-26 02:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

Probably not, just our online stuff. We'll probably only have to re-share our levels on LBP and re-decorate our planets. The trophies, possibly.

Downloads and monies are probably save to the PS3 itself.

You got it backwards, dude! xD
Downloads and credit is saved on the account, trophies are saved both locally and on servers when you synch them.



Please, hope it does not get rid of LBP levels online.
Mm would go bonkers if I ever saw the reaction if these levels randomly lost. D:

They're swapping the PSN servers, now I'm not sure, but I'm positive even tho LBP servers are within PSN, its not really the same, so they're slightly independent from the "main PSN" servers.


Because the official story is always true.

Oh yes, and a random person like yourself saying "IT WASN'T ANON OMGWTFBBQKBJHDSHKVDVJHDJ!!!!" is way more reliable.



To those being mocked by the failBox community, just remind them of the christmas without live for 2 weeks!
And all those consoles in their freezers, fridges or hot water cupboards.

Hmm time to go flame myself for being such a fanboy! More like Sackfan!

Guys, come on, lets not derail into fanboy wars chat...


When I here people say they are selling their ps3 for an Xbox i get mad. There is no way I'd get rid of LBP, not just lbp but I love God of War and uncharted also. I am not into the console wars at all, I have never even played and an Xbox 360(maybe once or twice). From what I hear from friends it seems the ps3 people are much nicer. And also everytime a new game comes out I always see xbox owners positing "the graphics suck on ps3". I really like they are nuts when they say lbp sucks it's for kids. You can tell they have never played it. I'm all for people owning every system. A game is a game. I love my ps3, it would take a lot to get rid of it. I here that the Xbox contollers are better though. Even if they are I like the way the ps3 contoller feels, plus I'm so use to it.

Look, if they wanna trade it up, is their business, hey don't like it anymore, they;re fed up or whatnot, then its really none of your business to get mad for what others do with THEIR consoles and stuff THEY bought...



I also would love to own all platforms and all games! But we just can't, so we chose wisely what we buy to get the best value.
Its times like these when the community of a game, everyone who plays it loves, comes together to get through the tough times!

LittleBigPlanet 4 Lyf!


http://i52.tinypic.com/30wmu8m.jpg


@Rabid-Coot LMAO who would do that, you would be losing $100 easy.

A console is for games, if you get enjoyment out of it, then its money well worth spent. If you have a lot of it you have all platforms.
Why in the world are there fanboys. You only end up recommending what you end up getting the most enjoyment from. No point pointing out flaws in one when looking at the others they all have flaws. What happened to the good old days when games were for fun and not beating the next person into oblivion with your AK-47.
My opinion, I don't care, LBP IS GOD! (to me anyway)


Edit; If only there were a button that could turn the whole internet off. Then imagine what would happen!


Again, come on guys don't start into the fanboy discussion, come on, you got your moneys worth of what you got for yourself, what do you care what others do with their stuff?
I mean, really guys, not like hearing some random internet person saying "buy this console" is gonna make them think, "oh yes, ok, I will."
They will get whatever they think they'll like best for them, unless they;re extreme simple minded, or complete sheeps that follow anything others say, of course.


I mean really...		2011-04-26 02:34:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

They're swapping the PSN servers, now I'm not sure, but I'm positive even tho LBP servers are within PSN, its not really the same, so they're slightly independent from the "main PSN" servers.


This is true, LBP servers are individual to PSN so no levels are lost. As LBP servers can go down but you can still get on PSN, just not the other way around as the LBP servers require authentication from PSN.



I mean, really guys, not like hearing some random internet person saying "buy this console" is gonna make them think, "oh yes, ok, I will."
They will get whatever they think they'll like best for them, unless they;re extreme simple minded, or complete sheeps that follow anything others say, of course.


Exactly as I was saying, although as you say there are simple-minded, or sheeps out there so yea. They do what they think is best.
(Tried to keep it off fanboyism)

Edit: Must make this my sig hmm... LBP IS GOD!
Double edit: Done!		2011-04-26 02:47:00

Author:
Unknown User

Agreed, because LBP is ONLY for playstation...PS is where i will stay, dare i say even without the network. A little bit of Knob Creek, some Cola, and create mode; and I'm all set. BUT i will admit, I am ready for the PSN to get back up and running.2011-04-26 03:14:00

Author:
sascha_winter
Posts: 163

Well there is a whole thread on PSXreme about this too, seems they are taking it better then some of us here.2011-04-26 03:49:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332

Might be longer than we expected to get back online....

PSN is shut down indefinitely (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/04/26/sony-shuts-down-playstation-network-indefinitely/)		2011-04-26 06:45:00

Author:
Iudicium_86
Posts: 167

Might be longer than we expected to get back online....

PSN is shut down indefinitely (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/04/26/sony-shuts-down-playstation-network-indefinitely/)

Well I for one don't know where they got indefinitely from. All sony has said on their own blogs is that PSN has been suspended. So I wouldn't expect any longer than the end of this month for it to be back up. Each to their own upon how they interpret information.


BUT i will admit, I am ready for the PSN to get back up and running.

I think we are all feeling this way without PSN for 5 days. I sure well feel this way even though I will have been some of the last to get booted off PSN. I had problems but I could still get on right up to an hour and 5 days ago.		2011-04-26 06:51:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well I for one don't know where they got indefinitely from. All sony has said on their own blogs is that PSN has been suspended. So I wouldn't expect any longer than the end of this month for it to be back up. Each to their own upon how they interpret information.

Correct, because the link in that article leads to this: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/25/psn-update/ which never uses that word, though I see how someone could interpret that...but they didn't say it, so probably shouldn't make an article stating that they said that, since they did not officially say that.		2011-04-26 06:54:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Certainly isn't forever in the sense of indefinitely, but more in just the technical sense. Instead of giving us any time-frame that they're working on it, it's more like clearing the schedule of anything to free up expectations and go with a "Whenever it happens" mentality.2011-04-26 07:01:00

Author:
Iudicium_86
Posts: 167

Certainly isn't forever in the sense of indefinitely, but more in just the technical sense. Instead of giving us any time-frame that they're working on it, it's more like clearing the schedule of anything to free up expectations and go with a "Whenever it happens" mentality.

Its probably so they don't get peoples hopes high, then crush em and have angry people when something goes wrong or it gets delayed, takes longer etc. This is also why they don't set a release for a game in concrete until they are fully sure they can make it. (Except LBP2 LOL)		2011-04-26 07:07:00

Author:
Unknown User

Certainly isn't forever in the sense of indefinitely, but more in just the technical sense. Instead of giving us any time-frame that they're working on it, it's more like clearing the schedule of anything to free up expectations and go with a "Whenever it happens" mentality.


I concur...but I also believe that many people see the word "indefinitely" and think the worst. But, that is their own fault...so shame on them.		2011-04-26 07:12:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Well I guess this period iof PSN free time will help us (when it comes back) to be more grateful for this fantastic service. It seems only now that we realise we have been taking it for granted2011-04-26 07:14:00

Author:
Alismuffin
Posts: 1328

Its probably so they don't get peoples hopes high, then crush em and have angry people when something goes wrong or it gets delayed, takes longer etc. This is also why they don't set a release for a game in concrete until they are fully sure they can make it. (Except LBP2 LOL)

And Brink, and Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and Duke Nukem Forever, and Rage, And Dino D-Day,....

lol. Delayed seems to be the more common thing actually 		2011-04-26 07:15:00

Author:
Iudicium_86
Posts: 167

To those being mocked by the failBox community, just remind them of the christmas without live for 2 weeks!
And all those consoles in their freezers, fridges or hot water cupboards.

Hmm time to go flame myself for being such a fanboy! More like Sackfan!

Ha ha it was for 2 days that I couldn't get on for online games, BUT intermittently over 2 weeks
due to Halo 3 popularity overwhelming the servers. Not quite the same is it? We also had regular updates and information of what was happening and a rough expected time-frame which was good. BUT I'm not fighting about it as I love all 3 consoles that I have, even though I tend to have love hate relationship with my PS3 at the moment.

It seems a lot more serious then overwhelmed servers due to millions logging in at the same period. Something that requires a re-build like this scale will take at least over 2 weeks. Where I work it took 2-3 weeks to re-build and it was no where near the scale of what Sony are dealing with. So this worries me. I'm off to tinker with my level now.		2011-04-26 10:55:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920

Play them out Keyboard Des.2011-04-26 11:07:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

The same thing's happening to me as yesterday. We all think PSN is being moved to the new server, yes? maybe when I thought it was working, sony was testing the old server, or the new server?

at the moment, it's telling me to turn off my internet and ps3, and wait for a while, then turn them back on/ check my connection settings.

Is this happening for anyone else or is it just me?		2011-04-26 11:10:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319

the Ion Pulsar: Play them out Keyboard Des.



Lol I don't have a keyboard, oh wait yes I do a mini one on my shelf somewhere I have two cats... keyboard cat springs to mind.		2011-04-26 11:12:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920

The same thing's happening to me as yesterday. We all think PSN is being moved to the new server, yes? maybe when I thought it was working, sony was testing the old server, or the new server?

at the moment, it's telling me to turn off my internet and ps3, and wait for a while, then turn them back on/ check my connection settings.

Is this happening for anyone else or is it just me?

Negatory ghost rider, still getting "PSN is have maintenance derp" message. Hasnt changed at all.

By the way Des, I really, really hope youre wrong and its back up tomorrow like they said it would be...

Err. Later today?		2011-04-26 11:28:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

... By the way Des, I really, really hope youre wrong and its back up tomorrow like they said it would be...

Err. Later today?

Where I work the servers went down, had to be re-build from scratch but took two weeks to get the back log of contents to start coming out. But this is completely different to what Sony has and they'd have a much bigger team to focus on it and they can't really afford for it to go on as long as I am predicting/guessing. So hopefully sooner. I also read that Sony are having to help Devs out since PSN downloadable games and contents and release dates have been messed up since it's been down. So it's in their best interest to get this sorted asap. BUT we're still yet to have any information that is substantial to go by which I'm very disappointed with from Sony, from what I've seen over the years I'm not surprised.		2011-04-26 11:46:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920

That was going to be my next point, Sony likely has a much more massive team of techs than the place you work at does. Though the problem is colossal, they have an equally colossal tech crew to take care of it. As someone who was in the benchmarking business, I can tell you the two are, unfortunately, wholly incomparable because unless your company is the size of sony, its complexity level is probably nowhere near what Sony's is. We can only hope that the new figure for completion is more accurate than their last one (See signature).2011-04-26 11:53:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

At one point when checking the blogs for me, the status symbol went green and was only churning back errors, no more Playstation Network Under Maintenance, but that was 2 days ago, and since then that status symbol is still green LOL. And back up with the words.

As has been pointed out, servers take a long time to rebuild. Hopefully as is also said, the teams are double the size of what has been said of the scale! Then we may actually get somewhere by the end of the month...		2011-04-26 12:18:00

Author:
Unknown User

This is true, LBP servers are individual to PSN so no levels are lost. As LBP servers can go down but you can still get on PSN, just not the other way around as the LBP servers require authentication from PSN.

Good.

Glad they didn't lost their levels, thought it linked by PSN because of lbp.me
Yea, at least it didn't lost their levels when they upgraded the servers on autumn 2010, only because they tuned up the limit (is it?) and maded LBP 1 levels compatable to LBP 2.

It went off at 19th April 2011. Went off about a week, longest it ever been offline! 		2011-04-26 12:20:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

Nope, I'm still seeing things D:
I'm more annoyed now because I'm not getting a "PSN is undergoing maintainence" message, just that my Network Connection is low. ARGH		2011-04-26 12:34:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319

If you guys want a sony insider who can actually contact the server engineers follow this twitter account. It seems to be updated consistently.

The contact whom I think is most up-to-date from inside (http://twitter.com/#!/rabidWalker)

Just another source for finding out more info. From the looks of it, getting close!		2011-04-26 12:37:00

Author:
Unknown User

Still says maintenance for me. Though if what youre saying is true we may be mere hours from coming back online.

Be still, my beating heart!		2011-04-26 12:38:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

Still says maintenance for me. Though if what youre saying is true we may be mere hours from coming back online.

I hope so!		2011-04-26 12:41:00

Author:
Unknown User

If you guys want a sony insider who can actually contact the server engineers follow this twitter account. It seems to be updated consistently.

The contact whom I think is most up-to-date from inside (http://twitter.com/#!/rabidWalker)

Just another source for finding out more info. From the looks of it, getting close!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3UTmX5Ngw50/R_PtxgBDgBI/AAAAAAAAAB4/GMiESCm-OuM/s320/SniperNo+copy.jpg		2011-04-26 12:46:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

Today is the day I have a feeling. My ps3 had said the maintenance thing for a few days now. When I tried this morning it says network error or something along those lines. And isn't tuesday the day everyone is saying it's coming back? Tuesday is usually the store update, it would make sense. By the way any of you who were supposed to be part of the infamous 2 level building beta? I heard that has been extended due to circumstances. I've said it once and I'll say it again. I have a feelin there are going to be a ton of people online at once if this is fixed today. Does anyone know if this would become a problem? I think anyone who owns ps3 is going to turn it on if the servers a up. It's just my opinion.2011-04-26 12:56:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3UTmX5Ngw50/R_PtxgBDgBI/AAAAAAAAAB4/GMiESCm-OuM/s320/SniperNo+copy.jpg
lol
I get it! It ment to be Swiper. But he got a sniper rifle and call it Sniper.

I bet PSN be fixed and online in within next week, I hope....		2011-04-26 13:01:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

It went off at 19th April 2011.

20th/21st depending on timezone I was last online around 1 am on the 21st		2011-04-26 13:05:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I think anyone who owns ps3 is going to turn it on if the servers a up. It's just my opinion.

I think so... first sign of fully working online PSN, loads of people would be "FINALLY! It fixed! ima go online straight away! "

I guessing they upgrade the servers aswell since more and more people going on, I guess...
And maybe an huge PS3 firmware update.

EDIT: I think I found pretty much the good source here (http://www.psu.com/PSN-down-for-maintenance-as-Anonymous-hackers-threaten-action-against-Sony--a011201-p0.php) and here (http://www.psu.com/ANON-threaten-Sony-over-legal-dispute-with-PS3-hackers---a011192-p0.php), know it posted early April, but not sure if anyone has same source as me.		2011-04-26 13:15:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

sony hasn't commented on what has happened to bank account details and such. This is either a bad thing, they haven't got that far, or it's all good and doesn't need to be commented on.

Personally, I don't know.		2011-04-26 13:25:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319

Hey everyone this is a very good article and worth a read as it brings quite a few important things up that I've been thinking. The first few paragraphs made me laugh:

6 important things about the ongoing PlayStation Network outage that Sony won't reveal (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/6-important-things-about-the-ongoing-playstation-network-outage-that-sony-wont-reveal/10306)

1. Has credit card and financial data been compromised?
2. What actually was the nature of the outage?
3. What backup and archiving practices are in place at PSN?
4. If this is hack-based, have you notified any of your partner companies, who may have information stored on your network?
5. What about shared game data?
6. What about trophies?		2011-04-26 13:47:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920

THE BOOK OF ION

CHAPTER 12

1: And Ion did weep, for the PSN was off for six days and six nights.
2: Lo, she cried. Where art thou PSN? But the PSN did not answer;
3: Lo, she cried, Where art thou SONY? But the SONY did not answer.
4: And she wept once more, for the PSN was off for a week.
5: Lo, she cried once more, a third time. Why hast thine children of the PSN been abandoned? And she slumbered.
6: And thus she woke, and the PSN had not yet returned. And Ion did fly into an inconsolable rage, and Ion did lash out at those around her, and Ion was overwhelmed with grief.
7: Lo, she cried a fourth time. When will thine PSN return from whence it left?
8: And a mighty rumbling emitted from Twitter, a sound like two-hundred and nintey-seven silver trumpets and a tuba
9: Heark, the voice did speak. Thrice have ye questioned me, and thrice I did not answer. But this fourth time ye shall have an answer.
10: And Ion did fall to her knees and weep, for she knew it was SONY who spake, and that she had questioned in error.
11: Six days and six nights the PSN has been offline, and six days and six nights have ye wept, and ye gnashed thine teeth, and ye cried out in despair, and ye taken arms against thine kinsman in thine anger.
12: Thou art to rejoice, for the PSN will be online on Tuesday, Sony spake.
13: And Ion did weep once more, for she knew she had erred in her doubt.
14: Tuesday, SONY? she did ask, for she did still doubt.
15: Probably, the Sony did answer.
16: And Ion did glare, and there was an awkward silence; And SONY was silent.
17: And Ion was silent. And all around them was silent.
18: As you speak, SONY, Ion did say, still with doubt and anger in her heart, for SONY had made such promises before; but the SONY knew her anguish, and did feel her fear.
19: Be still my child, Sony did speak. For he did know what anger stirred within her soul, and knew why she felt such dark feelings within her heart. A new day doth approach, and on it is carried the PSN. Probably. the Sony did reply, and did retreat once more.
20: And Ion did sigh, for she knew that this was the most concrete answer she should recieveth, and she did stave off slumber for the sake of witnessing this new day upon which the PSN was meant to arrive.		2011-04-26 14:15:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

THE BOOK OF ION

CHAPTER 12

1: And Ion did weep, for the PSN was off for six days and six nights.
2: Lo, she cried. Where art thou PSN? But the PSN did not answer;
3: Lo, she cried, Where art thou SONY? But the SONY did not answer.
4: And she wept once more, for the PSN was off for a week.
5: Lo, she cried once more, a third time. Why hast thine children of the PSN been abandoned? And she slumbered.
6: And thus she woke, and the PSN had not yet returned. And Ion did fly into an inconsolable rage, and Ion did lash out at those around her, and Ion was overwhelmed with grief.
7: Lo, she cried a fourth time. When will thine PSN return from whence it left?
8: And a mighty rumbling emitted from Twitter, a sound like two-hundred and nintey-seven silver trumpets and a tuba
9: Heark, the voice did speak. Thrice have ye questioned me, and thrice I did not answer. But this fourth time ye shall have an answer.
10: And Ion did fall to her knees and weep, for she knew it was SONY who spake, and that she had questioned in error.
11: Six days and six nights the PSN has been offline, and six days and six nights have ye wept, and ye gnashed thine teeth, and ye cried out in despair, and ye taken arms against thine kinsman in thine anger.
12: Thou art to rejoice, for the PSN will be online on Tuesday, Sony spake.
13: And Ion did weep once more, for she knew she had erred in her doubt.
14: Tuesday, SONY? she did ask, for she did still doubt.
15: Probably, the Sony did answer.
16: And Ion did glare, and there was an awkward silence; And SONY was silent.
17: And Ion was silent. And all around them was silent.
18: As you speak, SONY, Ion did say, still with doubt and anger in her heart, for SONY had made such promises before; but the SONY knew her anguish, and did feel her fear.
19: Be still my child, Sony did speak. For he did know what anger stirred within her soul, and knew why she felt such dark feelings within her heart. A new day doth approach, and on it is carried the PSN. Probably. the Sony did reply, and did retreat once more.
20: And Ion did sigh, for she knew that this was the most concrete answer she should recieveth, and she did stave off slumber for the sake of witnessing this new day upon which the PSN was meant to arrive.

Don't get it...

Anyway, based on my source, there is a guy called GeoHot, trying to hack PSN so he allow Hacked/Jailbroken PS3 to go online. I'm sure I explained it well :S

EDIT: But pretty awesome BTW Pulsar. 		2011-04-26 14:29:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

THE BOOK OF ION

CHAPTER 12

1: And Ion did weep, for the PSN was off for six days and six nights.
2: Lo, she cried. Where art thou PSN? But the PSN did not answer;
3: Lo, she cried, Where art thou SONY? But the SONY did not answer.
4: And she wept once more, for the PSN was off for a week.
5: Lo, she cried once more, a third time. Why hast thine children of the PSN been abandoned? And she slumbered.
6: And thus she woke, and the PSN had not yet returned. And Ion did fly into an inconsolable rage, and Ion did lash out at those around her, and Ion was overwhelmed with grief.
7: Lo, she cried a fourth time. When will thine PSN return from whence it left?
8: And a mighty rumbling emitted from Twitter, a sound like two-hundred and nintey-seven silver trumpets and a tuba
9: Heark, the voice did speak. Thrice have ye questioned me, and thrice I did not answer. But this fourth time ye shall have an answer.
10: And Ion did fall to her knees and weep, for she knew it was SONY who spake, and that she had questioned in error.
11: Six days and six nights the PSN has been offline, and six days and six nights have ye wept, and ye gnashed thine teeth, and ye cried out in despair, and ye taken arms against thine kinsman in thine anger.
12: Thou art to rejoice, for the PSN will be online on Tuesday, Sony spake.
13: And Ion did weep once more, for she knew she had erred in her doubt.
14: Tuesday, SONY? she did ask, for she did still doubt.
15: Probably, the Sony did answer.
16: And Ion did glare, and there was an awkward silence; And SONY was silent.
17: And Ion was silent. And all around them was silent.
18: As you speak, SONY, Ion did say, still with doubt and anger in her heart, for SONY had made such promises before; but the SONY knew her anguish, and did feel her fear.
19: Be still my child, Sony did speak. For he did know what anger stirred within her soul, and knew why she felt such dark feelings within her heart. A new day doth approach, and on it is carried the PSN. Probably. the Sony did reply, and did retreat once more.
20: And Ion did sigh, for she knew that this was the most concrete answer she should recieveth, and she did stave off slumber for the sake of witnessing this new day upon which the PSN was meant to arrive.

lmao. Love it 		2011-04-26 14:35:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

When this is all over, do think Sony will have a new slogan? Like:
Sony: Success through Compromise!		2011-04-26 14:37:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631

When this is all over, do think Sony will have a new slogan? Like:
Sony: Success through Compromise!

A slogan like "Assume the position B**ch" would be more appropriate in my opinion :/

;_;

It's like Sony dont love me anymore..</3		2011-04-26 14:44:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

I dunno, we could maybe attempt to claw out each others' eyes some more - I've heard that normally helps in these situations

*opens cupboard of idleness*

Back inside, you.



The official statement (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/) saying "external intrusion" sounds a hell of a lot like a euphemism for hackers or some other form of net-based scallywags... What that actually means in real terms is anyone's guess right now...

A statement is not evidence IMO, and probably also by definition. And a statement like that is not sufficiently concrete enough to have any practical value, so you may as well just ignore it.

Maybe the "external instrusion" was just a random port-scan by somebody - something fairly harmless which happens to me several times a day, but given sufficient vagueness, it's enough to pass the blame onto a third party.

Or maybe the "external intrustion" was someone walked into their server room, and unplugged all the cables, and it's taken them 6 days to work out where they all need to be plugged back in.

Anyway, people - let's just wait until we get some more concrete information - this random speculation about losing PSN data is almost certainly untrue, and just causing people to worry unnecessarily.		2011-04-26 14:45:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

LMAO Aya. SOmeone was trying to run the swiffer and all the cords were in the way, so they took them all out, and no one knew where they were all supposed to go back in.2011-04-26 15:37:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172

someone told me that the people who did it have been locked up for 10 years but who hacked it if its true2011-04-26 15:39:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

Hey guys I've just did a google news search and it's starting to look like something may be happening. I know personally as far as trying to log in I'm getting different messages now. More and more people are reporting different activity going on within tr network, somethings up. And also up I the corner on the ps3 where they scroll new and updates has changed. It was saying something about socom and now its blank.

Anyone have any good levels being published when we get back on. Im sure some people got a lot of create time in.


Here's a link: I think what they are saying is that people are starting to message eachother through the network. If this is true then this is a good sign.

http://electronictheatre.co.uk/index.php/playstation3/playstation3-news/7908-playstation-network-external-services-go-offline-readying-for-return		2011-04-26 15:53:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

someone told me that the people who did it have been locked up for 10 years but who hacked it if its true

That hasn't happened.		2011-04-26 15:54:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

well he was wrong but when they find out who did it whatw ill they do send them to jail?

most of our questions can be answered here check it out
http://www.pcworld.com/article/226271/sony_playstation_network_outage_your_faqs_answered .html		2011-04-26 16:00:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

What actually happened:

1. GeoHot hacks the PS3 using 'OtherOS' feature
2. Sony sues GeoHot, removes OtherOS
3. Self-righteous ********* hackers use new hack to make themselves PSN admin, and mess with the network
4. Sony pull the plug

Opinion is divided on whether GeoHot is an offender or a victim. On the one hand, his work did not allow for piracy, and was supposedly not for profit. On the other hand, everything Sony have done in reaction to the problem is within their rights. Check the EULA.

Personally, whilst I hate Sony's disgusting "customer service", I hate GeoHot and his associates' self-righteous crusade even more. If you back someone up against a wall, of course they'll fight back. If GeoHot really cared about the customers, he could have helped Sony fix the original problem instead of trying to exploit it.

Various groups have claimed or denied responsibility, included 'Anonymous' who are currently trying to boycott Sony due to the OtherOS thing. The fact is, the means to perpetrate the offence were available on the web for anyone that knew where to look, and these various groups are all made up of individuals. Groups can deny responsibility, but any members of said group could have acted on their own.

If you want a more 'techy' answer, check out PSX-Scene.

I've worked with servers before, there will be a backup they can restore. The worst that'll happen is your online data may be 'rolled back' a few hours. You'd just have to re-sync, no biggie.		2011-04-26 16:01:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

What actually happened:

1. GeoHot hacks the PS3 using 'OtherOS' feature
2. Sony sues GeoHot, removes OtherOS
3. Self-righteous ********* hackers use new hack to make themselves PSN admin, and mess with the network
4. Sony pull the plug

Opinion is divided on whether GeoHot is an offender or a victim. On the one hand, his work did not allow for piracy, and was supposedly not for profit. On the other hand, everything Sony have done in reaction to the problem is within their rights. Check the EULA.

Personally, whilst I hate Sony's disgusting "customer service", I hate GeoHot and his associates' self-righteous crusade even more. If you back someone up against a wall, of course they'll fight back. If GeoHot really cared about the customers, he could have helped Sony fix the original problem instead of trying to exploit it.

If you want a more 'techy' answer, check out PSX-Scene.

I've worked with servers before, there will be a backup they can restore. The worst that'll happen is your online data may be 'rolled back' a few hours. You'd just have to re-sync, no biggie.

what can sony do right		2011-04-26 16:13:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

what can sony do right

Very true - there's very little they can do apart from wave their only defence around - their wallet.

Truth is, these hackers are better security experts than anyone Sony employs, that's why they had to pull OtherOS. Trouble is, these people will keep on finding ways to break the system and Sony will always be playing catch-up. We may find ourselves without PSN access again in the future, unless Sony find a way to placate everyone. And since Sony can't even treat their own customers with respect, I don't see them working out a resolution any time soon.

Honestly, I love my PS3, but every time a Sony rep talks, I want to throw it at the wall.		2011-04-26 16:30:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

but diffrent websites are saying diffrent things i heared one website they were having system matience another saying hacked and now something about geohot make your mind up2011-04-26 16:33:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

but diffrent websites are saying diffrent things i heared one website they were having system matience another saying hacked and now something about geohot make your mind up

Possibly because everyone just speculates... Just be patient. There is nothing you can do anyway.		2011-04-26 16:37:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

but diffrent websites are saying diffrent things i heared one website they were having system matience another saying hacked and now something about geohot make your mind up

That's because all three statments are true. They are now doing system maintenance to repair the damage caused by hackers that were (presumably) acting in Support of Geohot.

Geohot himself was not directly involved in the latest incident, since Sony have already restricted his access to Sony products.

Like I said, PSX-Scene.net has the actual story on what happened. The new hack was made possible by GeoHot's work, and allowed users to access the PSN in some kind of 'Admin Mode'. There is a rumour that the hackers were trying to make everything on the PSN Store FREE, but were prevented from doing so when Sony pulled the plug. This is unconfirmed.

It's not hard to use some common sense / do some research and find out which sites are just trolling rumours. I've been researching the whole issue for the past 3 days and I'm sure the info in my previous post is accurate - the only real mystery is who actually perpetrated the attack.

This news article is better researched than most: The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/apr/26/games-playstation)		2011-04-26 16:52:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

Maybe someone can answer my question please. I was wondering if it will make a difference with everything Sony is doing, will there be less lag on games. I have no clue, I just want someone who is educated in this area to tell me what are the pros of Sony rebuilding? Besides this hacker issue. Will things run smoother, will the network be able to handle more people, will we see less downtime? Anything you can answer would be great. Thanks!2011-04-26 16:56:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Maybe someone can answer my question please. I was wondering if it will make a difference with everything Sony is doing, will there be less lag on games. I have no clue, I just want someone who is educated in this area to tell me what are the pros of Sony rebuilding? Besides this hacker issue. Will things run smoother, will the network be able to handle more people, will we see less downtime? Anything you can answer would be great. Thanks!

Nobody knows yet.		2011-04-26 17:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Thing is, if this is related to the store, couldn't they just make the store inaccessible while keeping the online gaming? Or is the system just a mess of wires with everything connected and when one goes shot, the rest follow. Actually, my theory is that it was a mess and they are first rebuilding the online gaming but the store will stay down for about a month. Of course, the original article said it was nearly speculation and that may not have been what was happening at all. Still, I'm still hating Sony for getting rid of my PS2 playability and the Other OS support. But PS3 is still the greatest thing ever (media servers and all that jazz).

It's pretty hilllarious to use the "latest" feature on google and watch the original article get twisted like a strange online form of "telephone". Things have been blown way out of proportion.

But honestly, LBP is boring without online :		2011-04-26 17:25:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164

Here's a fun conspiracy theory floating around, thanks to godlike productions, which is an awesome website to go to if you ever want to read a hilarious conspiracy theory or two about lizard people or that May 21st is the Rapture.. Things like that. Anyway, from a Turkish poster:



they've lost everything, absolutely everything

trophy data
backup saves
purchase info and previously downloaded content
account info

all gone.

currently trying to piece it all together from historic back ups but according to sources it's not happening

Rumour is Kaz is going to announce a press conference shortly advising users as to how best to recover data from their own machines (if they can work out how to do it).

But the problem is without user account data they cannot reup the data to network because there's nothing to tie it to.

As such it's looking like a day zero reboot and massive headache proving what you've previously purchased for everybody with a PS3.

It's the end of (gaming) days! 		2011-04-26 17:31:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386

Here's a fun conspiracy theory floating around, thanks to godlike productions, which is an awesome website to go to if you ever want to read a hilarious conspiracy theory or two about lizard people or that May 21st is the Rapture.. Things like that. Anyway, from a Turkish poster:


Oh jeez...just what we need...more crazy theories. We have very impressionable youngsters on here...they are totally going to believe this lol.

But that would totally suck if it were true.		2011-04-26 17:36:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Here's a fun conspiracy theory floating around, thanks to godlike productions, which is an awesome website to go to if you ever want to read a hilarious conspiracy theory or two about lizard people or that May 21st is the Rapture.. Things like that. Anyway, from a Turkish poster:
It's the end of (gaming) days!

Lol, that's trollism for sure.

Sony would never ask their userbase to attempt to recover data from their machines - they don't want people poking around in there. That's what started this debacle in the first place.

All the data will be backed up... no electronics company would be stupid enough to be without one. Several, in fact.		2011-04-26 18:02:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

Here's a fun conspiracy theory floating around, thanks to godlike productions, which is an awesome website to go to if you ever want to read a hilarious conspiracy theory or two about lizard people or that May 21st is the Rapture.. Things like that. Anyway, from a Turkish poster:



It's the end of (gaming) days!

thats stupid no one belive that sony will fix that		2011-04-26 18:05:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

Is everyone going crazy yet? Haha...
Apparently Sony are making the network more safe for psn users, but who knows what to believe.
This is a situation where rumour wars start.
5 days is a long time but i guess its a long procedure whatever their working on.
Anyway 5 days without psn might do you all some good
Cya!		2011-04-26 18:39:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

I hope they take this sabbatical and *upgrade* the PSN network to include long promised stuff like cross-gaming chat etc.

It would be a good oppertunity for them to do something like that and may appease some of the detractors

Official Word - Only one that can be trusted (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/category/playstation-network/)		2011-04-26 18:39:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Hey everyone this is a very good article and worth a read as it brings quite a few important things up that I've been thinking. The first few paragraphs made me laugh:

6 important things about the ongoing PlayStation Network outage that Sony won't reveal (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/6-important-things-about-the-ongoing-playstation-network-outage-that-sony-wont-reveal/10306)

1. Has credit card and financial data been compromised?
2. What actually was the nature of the outage?
3. What backup and archiving practices are in place at PSN?
4. If this is hack-based, have you notified any of your partner companies, who may have information stored on your network?
5. What about shared game data?
6. What about trophies?


It just asks te same thing after the question. >_>
"Is Credit Card information in any danger?"
Answer: In Credit card information in any danger, we ask ourselves that"

._.
I know that's not exactly what it sayd, but basically the same thing.



That's because all three statments are true. They are now doing system maintenance to repair the damage caused by hackers that were (presumably) acting in Support of Geohot.

Geohot himself was not directly involved in the latest incident, since Sony have already restricted his access to Sony products.

Like I said, PSX-Scene.net has the actual story on what happened. The new hack was made possible by GeoHot's work, and allowed users to access the PSN in some kind of 'Admin Mode'. There is a rumour that the hackers were trying to make everything on the PSN Store FREE, but were prevented from doing so when Sony pulled the plug. This is unconfirmed.

It's not hard to use some common sense / do some research and find out which sites are just trolling rumours. I've been researching the whole issue for the past 3 days and I'm sure the info in my previous post is accurate - the only real mystery is who actually perpetrated the attack.

This news article is better researched than most: The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/apr/26/games-playstation)


Lol, that's trollism for sure.

Sony would never ask their userbase to attempt to recover data from their machines - they don't want people poking around in there. That's what started this debacle in the first place.

All the data will be backed up... no electronics company would be stupid enough to be without one. Several, in fact.

Now you, a word with you if you don't mind.
You kep saying "I say the truth, all I say are facts, this website has the true answers and all else is fake!"
That, knock it off, there's no true proof in that website, and you don't have any sources to back up your "facts and truths," right now your "source" is as clueless as "all those other sites that are wrong," everyone's speculating and wondering, there's yet to be any "true, checked, and double checked," stories, yes all those sites may be wrong or don't have anything to "base" their facts on, buuuut its the same for everyone, anything said here, or in any of those articles, including that site you point out to, everything roight now said by non-Sony employees is mere speculation, heck, i wouldn't doubt it if there even were Sony employees in the dark about this, also speculating and making crazy theories about it.

So please don't go around saying "this is the truth, everyone else has it wrong but me, this is what happened in fact."
Because it is all speculation, and its starting to get tiring following all these "true stories" everywhere.
People keep going like that, no one will know what really happened...


I hope they take this sabbatical and *upgrade* the PSN network to include long promised stuff like cross-gaming chat etc.

It would be a good oppertunity for them to do something like that and may appease some of the detractors

Official Word - Only one that can be trusted (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/category/playstation-network/)

Actually, that's been posted several times by now, m8. 		2011-04-26 19:26:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

PSN went out last Wednesday... and SKYNET is supposed to come online April 20, 2011, which was last Wednesday... OH NOOOOO!!!!2011-04-26 19:32:00

Author:
Iudicium_86
Posts: 167

Apparantly some people who couldn't log into the Official PS forums now apparantly can. Got to be a good sign, yes?2011-04-26 20:14:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

Would the forums really be linked to the psn at all? i mean server wise etc? Seems a little . . . well basic, frankly!

Butg I suppose you're right, it is a good sign that something is back online 		2011-04-26 20:16:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

Would the forums really be linked to the psn at all? i mean server wise etc? Seems a little . . . well basic, frankly!

Butg I suppose you're right, it is a good sign that something is back online

I assume so, as you have to sign in with your PSN ID. Or at least, many people haven't been able to sign in since Wednesday and now a few of them can.		2011-04-26 20:19:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

Ooh, didn't know that, not being a participant in those particular forums myself. good to know!2011-04-26 20:31:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

Oh man there are videos all over youtube about the Rebug hack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ocA3FEhNWs&feature=related
this one even shows you how to do it! ): I HATE HACKERS!		2011-04-26 20:33:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332

bad news guys the other day on google news said that sony dont know if your credit cards details are safe it dont affect me2011-04-26 20:35:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

bad news guys the other day on google news said that sony dont know if your credit cards details are safe it dont affect me

I'd like to quote the infamous Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, and advise you this one thing:

'Don't Panic.'

Nothing is official (yet) and as has been said so many times in this thread, everything is speculation. Just keep calm, patient, and eventually all this nastiness will go away.		2011-04-26 20:41:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

PSN went out last Wednesday... and SKYNET is supposed to come online April 20, 2011, which was last Wednesday... OH NOOOOO!!!!

You mean the one from the Terminator ?
In that case, we're ****ed. :eek:		2011-04-26 20:54:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482

this just in http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/

finally some real news
very important information in here guys, go read.		2011-04-26 20:56:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424

bad news guys the other day on google news said that sony dont know if your credit cards details are safe it dont affect me
Well that's certainly one way to create mass hysteria.		2011-04-26 21:01:00

Author:
Laharl
Posts: 152

Nice to finally here some sort of official report on what's happening. maybe now some of the speculation will stop.2011-04-26 21:05:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

this just in http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/

finally some real news
very important information in here guys, go read.

Cheers for the link. It says they're trying to restore some services within a week, so it looks like we're gonna be waiting a bit longer 		2011-04-26 21:10:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706

http://faq.en.playstation.com/cgi-bin/scee_gb.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?locale=en_GB&p_faqid=55932011-04-26 21:12:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

this just in http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/

finally some real news
very important information in here guys, go read.

Umm wow, so everyone that stated "External Intrusion" doesn't mean Sony has been attacked/hacked, were wrong. Unfortunate.

Great news though, have to tell all my PS3 friends.		2011-04-26 21:14:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

It also says our personal information has been compromised. That's alarming.2011-04-26 21:16:00

Author:
nextlevel88
Posts: 149

It also says our personal information has been compromised. That's alarming.

Very. This part especially.


"Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.

For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well.

To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports. We are providing the following information for those who wish to consider it: "		2011-04-26 21:20:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

Very. This part especially.

I have lost all faith in Sony.

THEY COULD POSSIBLY HAVE MY ADDRESS, MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER, MY NAME, EVERYTHING! They arent even trying to get the Network back up so we can change our information!

"Change your passwords, information, and credit card numbers. AS SOON AS WE GET PSN UP. Which could take a week. Have fun with identity theft." Is pretty much what theyre telling us to do.

Going to an Xbox. I am utterly disappointed.

:SH:

EDIT: Then again, if they use my address for billing information, I could just deny the confirmation. 		2011-04-26 21:25:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769

Very. This part especially.

Does this mean that we may have lost all of our creations online, and all progress in the game?
I'm almost computer illiterate....		2011-04-26 21:31:00

Author:
Unknown User

I got the news several hours ago, on the radio.

HHAAXX!!!!!! *Computer catapulted at hacker*		2011-04-26 21:33:00

Author:
Denim360
Posts: 482

Does this mean that we may have lost all of our creations online, and all progress in the game?
I'm almost computer illiterate....

Not likely, but compared to what could happen with identity theft, that could be the least of your worries.		2011-04-26 21:35:00

Author:
nextlevel88
Posts: 149

Does this mean that we may have lost all of our creations online, and all progress in the game?
I'm almost computer illiterate....

Your levels and creations are the least of your worries now.
If I were you ill be cautious about your identity and information.

Some people have more important things to worry about then some levels and creations.
Including me.		2011-04-26 21:38:00

Author:
Unknown User

I think we should make a combustible lemon and BURN SONYS HOUSE DOWN! YEEEAH!2011-04-26 21:41:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

I have lost all faith in Sony.

THEY COULD POSSIBLY HAVE MY ADDRESS, MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER, MY NAME, EVERYTHING! They arent even trying to get the Network back up so we can change our information!

I'm unable to tell if you're serious or sarcastic, so I'll assume you're being serious.

This isn't Sony's fault. They've been hacked. Sony haven't given away you're information. Sony are doing everything they can, working round the clock for over a week, to get PSN back up and running.

Sony are the victims of this attack as much as we are, not the ones responsible.


Going to an Xbox. I am utterly disappointed.

Good for you. No LBP on Xbox though.		2011-04-26 21:42:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

What drove you to lemon?
Other than its acidic content?		2011-04-26 21:43:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176

What drove you to lemon?
Other than its acidic content?

Cave Johnson.		2011-04-26 21:46:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I have lost all faith in Sony.

THEY COULD POSSIBLY HAVE MY ADDRESS, MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER, MY NAME, EVERYTHING! They arent even trying to get the Network back up so we can change our information!

"Change your passwords, information, and credit card numbers. AS SOON AS WE GET PSN UP. Which could take a week. Have fun with identity theft." Is pretty much what theyre telling us to do.

Going to an Xbox. I am utterly disappointed.

:SH:

EDIT: Then again, if they use my address for billing information, I could just deny the confirmation.

The hackers can only get your information if PSN is up, so it would be the stupidest idea ever if they put PSN back up without fixing the problem.		2011-04-26 21:46:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262

Does this mean that we may have lost all of our creations online, and all progress in the game?
I'm almost computer illiterate....

The part I quoted had nothing to do with the game itself but something more serious. If you had connected your PSN account to your real information there is a slight possibility the hackers have obtained this information and may use it for fraud. Just a heads up.		2011-04-26 21:47:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

Okay. This is actually quite a big deal after all. To save people having to wade through 25 pages of speculation, I've created a new thread for this here (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=55809-PSN-Account-Information-Compromised).

Locked.		2011-04-26 21:54:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


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