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			| again...bite me and F off man....you obviously see it annoys the hell outta me in yet you continue...so how about doing me and the dozens of other users (from previous forums who would agree) a favor and just cut the crap....this is about demon's souls...not annoying weeaboo finding more crap to annoy me with Calm down, he was just saying the guy that asked the question did only ask whether he should switch Armour, he was being perfectly specific before you attacked him over it. You're overreacting to this whole thing, no-ones set out just to annoy you he was just pointing something out.  | 2010-07-12 00:28:00 Author: Dexiro Posts: 2100  | 
| Calm down, he was just saying the guy that asked the question did only ask whether he should switch Armour, he was being perfectly specific before you attacked him over it. You're overreacting to this whole thing, no-ones set out just to annoy you he was just pointing something out. ok 1. you obviously didn't read the edit he made to my quote 2. this isn't a "just now thing" crap like this has happened before 3. this is a demon's souls thread....if you have nothing to contribute to the topic please don't post....just like i've learned to try and ignore him and move on YOU should not keep digging up old posts of things already said and done that will only entice the situation even more (seriously WHEN have you ever brought up a bad situation and got something good out of it?) anyways back on-topic: DEMON'S SOULS WIKI/COMMUNITY (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/) just thought i'd leave this here since i've been browsing there for the longest and it basically gives you all the information you could ever want...so much that the creators got called by ATLUS themselves to make a strategy guide for the EU version of the game when it releases/already released  | 2010-07-12 01:02:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiiqUD1SHrs This is a video of me beating vanguard in the tutorial for you nice people.  | 2010-07-12 10:38:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| 3. this is a demon's souls thread....if you have nothing to contribute to the topic please don't post....just like i've learned to try and ignore him and move on YOU should not keep digging up old posts of things already said and done that will only entice the situation even more (seriously WHEN have you ever brought up a bad situation and got something good out of it?) lol ironic isn't it as how you keep paying so much attention and respoinding to all things people keep saying about that. ![]() Well anyways, i already tried making peace with you and got told off in response, so if you wanna be a grumpy old man with zero sense of humor and zero tolerance to people disagreeing with you, suit yourself, just don't drag me into your crazy conspiracies about me being evil incarnate in disguise or whatever, i'll be here in the relaxed side of the internet if you will, you're free to join whenever you want. ![]() Anywho, i can't wait for it to be later today, hopefully i'll be getting this game by today in the evening. ![]() I'm not master of the shinan just in LBP you know? ![]() (I specially like this game because of what you said of it getting difficult every time you finish it, games these days only last me a few days, :/ but this should prove to last a bit longer hopefully.  ) | 2010-07-12 11:45:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
Thanks for the Vanguard video Robotiod   I'm pretty sure I was the one who asked what happens when you beat him in the tutorial,  so much appreciated! I think I'm good enough to beat him now but either way it's good to know ![]() Apparently I was off a bit, my main character is at SL 108 so if anyone is near enough ... ![]()  | 2010-07-12 15:02:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
Thanks for the Vanguard video Robotiod   I'm pretty sure I was the one who asked what happens when you beat him in the tutorial,  so much appreciated! I think I'm good enough to beat him now but either way it's good to know ![]() Apparently I was off a bit, my main character is at SL 108 so if anyone is near enough ... ![]() No problem, I wanted to do the battle anyway so I turned on the ps3, it only took one attempt as I said in the video, I decided I would record it so you lot could see it. Also I chose the knight class because I have never used it before, its pretty nice, I may restart my no level play through so I can be it. I decided to be a royal for the no level play through I am doing because that way its a difficult as possible.  | 2010-07-12 15:29:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| well tbh it's not really difficult as a royal...since you have the advantage of soul arrow and such...a real difficulty would be using a melee character versus vanguard since his attack will kill you in one swipe anyways....so with that bulk of armor wearing you down makes it harder...with a royal you just run in there almost nude (keeping the headband for added mp) and just jump like a madman casting soul arrow....takes a while but its not so hard on a irrelevant note to the tutorial boss....anybody curious as to what the 6th archstone contains? cuz i know there is a wallpaper that exists showing whats inside since we can't check it out cuz its broken  | 2010-07-12 19:05:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| well tbh it's not really difficult as a royal...since you have the advantage of soul arrow and such...a real difficulty would be using a melee character versus vanguard since his attack will kill you in one swipe anyways....so with that bulk of armor wearing you down makes it harder...with a royal you just run in there almost nude (keeping the headband for added mp) and just jump like a madman casting soul arrow....takes a while but its not so hard on a irrelevant note to the tutorial boss....anybody curious as to what the 6th archstone contains? cuz i know there is a wallpaper that exists showing whats inside since we can't check it out cuz its broken Vanguard is absolutely easy melee, I I show in the video. as long as you leave yourself stamina to roll.  | 2010-07-12 21:58:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
Oh just returned from getting this game, so...time to kick some demonic zombie dragoon and what not, butt, tail, or behind or whatever they have! ![]() lol you hype it so much, hope its that good because i can't trade this one. ![]()  | 2010-07-12 23:54:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
Congrats   If you ever need help at the higher bosses lemme know and I'll pop in ![]() I made some really stupid mistakes in PVP in this game, but at least I'm learning... stupid like, stopping to heal when I should've just squeezed one more shot off to kill the guy, etc.  | 2010-07-13 00:45:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
Congrats   If you ever need help at the higher bosses lemme know and I'll pop in ![]() I made some really stupid mistakes in PVP in this game, but at least I'm learning... stupid like, stopping to heal when I should've just squeezed one more shot off to kill the guy, etc. you know that reminds me....what item did you get when you beat the game? the SOUL? or the RED EYE?  | 2010-07-13 00:47:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
Oh just returned from getting this game, so...time to kick some demonic zombie dragoon and what not, butt, tail, or behind or whatever they have! ![]() lol you hype it so much, hope its that good because i can't trade this one. ![]() If you do ever want to do co-op, I can rush a play through to get to your level. Congrats on buying one of the best gaming experiences on PS3.  | 2010-07-13 00:48:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| you know that reminds me....what item did you get when you beat the game? the SOUL? or the RED EYE? I took the soul, in my NG+ I'll take the red eye.  | 2010-07-13 03:32:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I took the soul, in my NG+ I'll take the red eye. I would say that is the right thing to do, I took the red eye second time around and I never regretted it.  | 2010-07-13 03:33:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| I'm up for co-op if anyone else is, i just need a bit of help doing 4-1 so i can get to the nice grinding level! I've done it before but i started again stupidly, and now i have no idea how i ever killed the Judicator because he's kicking my a** xD I know grinding doesn't do a great deal, it's just a safety thing that i like to have. I'd feel more comfortable doing the rest of the game once i know my level's up to scratch ![]()  | 2010-07-13 04:19:00 Author: Dexiro Posts: 2100  | 
| I took the soul, in my NG+ I'll take the red eye. be sure to give the soul to Yuria the Witch for a special surprise ![]()  | 2010-07-13 04:24:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| i'm playing as a wanderer everything kills meeeeeee the maiden in black is such a skank. keeps asking me to 'touch the demon inside' her. gross, man. something weird going on with that girl.  | 2010-07-13 04:36:00 Author: monstahr Posts: 1361  | 
...you like it   LOL adjudicator is so easy >_> just sit behind him when you here him squeek and right after the swing hack away at the swordr in his gut XD  | 2010-07-13 06:10:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924  | 
| Most of the bosses were too easy for me because I'm a cheapass and figured out most of the vantage points to snipe from without getting hurt... :/ .. lol | 2010-07-13 06:21:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Most of the bosses were too easy for me because I'm a cheapass and figured out most of the vantage points to snipe from without getting hurt... :/ .. lol That's one way to do it and there's no problem with that, the adjudicator for instance, you can stay just by the fog and be locked on to the adjudicator's head, and just walk forward soul arrow walk back on and on. If we are going to start co op then we will have to decide a level we we go to snd stay at. (mainly so I can grind up this week I have people at stupid levels)  | 2010-07-13 09:13:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
Well, 'm not sure i'f ill e able to play for a while tho, i'm selling my old PS3 for $200 so i can get a 250GB slim   ($350 + tax :/) but i don't have the rest to buy it right now, so i won't be able to play for a while. ![]() EDIT: Oh the sweet irony... Check out what Ad is at the top of the page right now. http://i27.tinypic.com/awtk69.png ![]() Don't you just love it when that stuff happens? XD  | 2010-07-13 10:31:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
Well, 'm not sure i'f ill e able to play for a while tho, i'm selling my old PS3 for $200 so i can get a 250GB slim   ($350 + tax :/) but i don't have the rest to buy it right now, so i won't be able to play for a while. ![]() You can lend one of mine if you like. I'm only kidding I don't think I can ship it too you for ?8  | 2010-07-13 10:35:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| You can lend one of mine if you like. I'm only kidding I don't think I can ship it too you for ?8 Hm...you think i could run over there? ![]() lol i'll do it with a PS3 as a motivation! >:O  | 2010-07-13 10:37:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Just saw silvers edit, google ad words is creepy. | 2010-07-13 12:33:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| I just started today and this game kicks *** indeed! (Mine to be more precise.  )lol, still getting adjusted and stuff, sure i've been killed a couple dozend maybe hundreads of times already, but hey, if it isn't difficult, what's the point right? ![]() lol, i'm barely a SL-6 wanderer anyways, i know i wouldn't be able to go quite far right now. (If i should, then dang.... :/ ) lol i actually made it all the way to the dragon, but i went back to the merchant in the area, bough some stuff, and saw another area i hadn't seen, so i go there and i'm ambushed by an archer and like 10 minions... XD Didn't stand a chance! So any tips, for this newbie? ![]() I got the knight shield, the firesomething shield (large gray one, that apparently i can't use to 100% because i'm too weak atm), and the wood shield, weapons are Falchion, Dagger (most used), Mail breaker i think (small sword for thrusting). Place i die most times is by either the spear weilder ot the knight, both on that place after the area with a bunch of people throwing fire bottles, where the path splits in 3, i can pass that sometimes, but that's where they get me a lot, specially the fraken knight. XD Btw, is ther a way to like play co-op while in the 1st area?  | 2010-07-14 07:54:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| You unfortunately can't play the first area co-op on startup, I will say this, the first area is made to be difficult, but easy at the same time, thats why the final demon doesn't attack. Since you are a wanderer at this early stage you don't want to get hit, personally I would change back to the wooden shield, this will protect you reasonably well against the crossbow men. When it come to the lance guys, and heavy armored nights, you want to dodge as much as possible, parrying is another idea but its difficult to do until you get used to it, in the video in my OP I even fail one in the tutorial. So i would advise trying to dodge around them when they lunge forward, if you are quick enough you can get the back stab on them and kill them quickly. You don't have any long range attacks yet but if you have any firebombs in your inventory they will be useful against large groups. another idea with large groups is to lead them out one by one, that way you can pick them off easier. This game doesn't get any easier, but eventually you will feel like it has, that is called getting better, it is one of those games where your skill will improve and you will notice ad you will be proud of that. I had a similar problem originally where I died about 20 time. I actually restarted the game with a new class, so if your class isn't working for you, you might want to start again trying out something new.  | 2010-07-14 08:22:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Wait that Dragon doesn't attack? D: I could've killed him already then. :/ lol, well back to the repeating the level until i reach tat point again then! ![]()  | 2010-07-14 09:01:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| The dragon actually cant be killed until 1-2, where you will need spells or a bow, it ha a fire breath but your supposed to run over the bridge without getting hit. | 2010-07-14 09:14:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| In NG+ I noticed I was able to attack the dragon in 1-1 ... could I eventually kill it, or would it just stop coming? Is it one of the dragons that rests off to the level? The hardest enemy for me by far in the game was the heavily armored knight with the lance in 1-1, he likes to rush really fast and he has this dual stab attack with his lance that usually fools me when I think I'm outmaneuvering him, also the areas tend to be really tight so it's hard to get behind him. But he became super easy later on    Just keep at the game, you will get better at the strategies and your character will get more powerful. | 2010-07-14 13:23:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| No, when you get the dragons to half health they will fly away, so the red dragon is only killable in 1-2, and the blue in 1-4 | 2010-07-14 16:40:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| I want to make sure we're talking about the same dragons lol In 1-1 there's the dragon that sweeps down the path in front of the lever to open the boss door, I realized I could shoot at him but eventually got too bored to see what would happen. So he would just fly away? in 1-1 there's also that area with the 2 dragons resting on the cliffside, you can't kill them? I forgot all about them even though I always meant to come back to fight them, would they just fly away? In 1-2 the only dragon I see is the one that keeps flying down and breathing fire on the pathways, I can't even target him long enough to shoot, you can actually kill him? I did kill the one in 1-4 though, of course.  | 2010-07-14 16:53:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| 1 dragon on the bridges in 1-1 and 1-2 are both the same dragon, the ones on the cliff, the one that breaths fire is also the same one as the bridges, the blue one with his back to you is the one from 1-4. | 2010-07-14 17:00:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
I figured that much, thanks ![]()  | 2010-07-14 17:14:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
i killed the 1-2 dragon on the bridge   about 100 arrows, just have to find the right pattern and you get him everytime but its a small window, the loos are mostly moon grass but half way across each of the segments is a spiked shield and a winged spear ![]()  | 2010-07-14 19:33:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924  | 
| You actually have to kill the blue and red dragons for trophies, however their souls are completely useless. | 2010-07-14 22:37:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| You actually have to kill the blue and red dragons for trophies, however their souls are completely useless. THIS....also its good to keep killing them for souls and such and whenever you're at the level where they cant effect you....then you can leave them alive as traps for black phantoms who assume you already killed it  | 2010-07-15 00:12:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Wait, what's this onf 1-1 , 1-2, 1-3 and so on? Well anywho, the one i was talking about is where there are 2 in a cliff, one standing and one laying down in front of it. I was gonna advance, but i touched a bloodstain that shown someone getting 1-hit killed by them. XD (Also, are the white ghos thingies that apperar randomly other players playing that atm or just random momnetes of random players at random times?)  | 2010-07-15 00:40:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Wait, what's this onf 1-1 , 1-2, 1-3 and so on? Well anywho, the one i was talking about is where there are 2 in a cliff, one standing and one laying down in front of it. I was gonna advance, but i touched a bloodstain that shown someone getting 1-hit killed by them. XD (Also, are the white ghos thingies that apperar randomly other players playing that atm or just random momnetes of random players at random times?) The white phantoms can be both live and recent. You sometimes see the white phantom of a player just before they set a multiplayer stone, also by the cliff your talking about, that is just a dead end with some rarish items. its not a necessity to go there.  | 2010-07-15 00:48:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
the ones on the cliff fly away at half health like robo said, i wonder if there health carries over, hm. Also white phantoms are nifty for bosses and some enemies, they will see them and actually make a fuetile attempt to kill them XD giving you time to pop in an extra few hits or heal   thank you transdeminsional stranger  ! | 2010-07-15 01:08:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924  | 
| Half health will transfer over if you don't leave to the nexus or die. | 2010-07-15 01:22:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| So I'm guessing for the trophy you have to have both dragons dead on the same playthrough? | 2010-07-15 01:37:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| So I'm guessing for the trophy you have to have both dragons dead on the same playthrough? No its two different trophies, one for the red, one for the blue.  | 2010-07-15 01:42:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Hmmm? I just killed the guy on 1-2 and didn't get a trophy... Are you sure it's not just the one flying dragon trophy? I'm even looking at the trophy list in PSN and can't see anything about the other dragon.  | 2010-07-15 02:05:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I have got it wrong, sorry everyone, there is only one trophy, and that is the flying dragon for slaying the blue dragon, the red dragon need not be killed. | 2010-07-15 02:11:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Originally Posted by Silverleon   Wait, what's this onf 1-1 , 1-2, 1-3 and so on? Think of them as the Demon's Souls equivalent of "World-Stage" designators (a la Super Mario) in the game. The regions in the game are accessed via 5 "main" archstones (there is also a 6th, destroyed archstone that represents an area that was destroyed prior to the events of the game) and are numerically designated from 1 to 5 in clockwise order from the bottom left archstone and are signified by the initial number. Within each region are multiple areas which are marked by their own "entrance" archstone and a boss that needs to be defeated to access the next area's archstone. For example, 1-X is the designator for the Boletarian Palace, 1-1 is the first area of it, with 1-2 being second and so on.  | 2010-07-15 03:47:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| lol, ok so much since last post. 1st, I was in the wrong path al along in 1 - 1, thankfully, Foofles pointed me out in the right direction, so i went, killed the 1st boss, revived, got killed in The swamp place (5 - 1 i think) then Robotiod loged in, we killed a demon (more like he killed it with a bit of support from me.  ) in his world so i revived.He pretty much owned all the other X-1 and some X-2 bosses (except for the swamp one, he fell before reaching it, but he killed everything before I had the chance to do anything. XD (That includes getting killed too.  )lol, not to mention when we were facing the Knight Demon in my world, he killed before i managed to go around to kill all the snipers. O_o (2 were still left i think) Heh, he even invaded some dude, funny enough, that same personhe invaded, summoned me, ![]() And well, let's just say I wish i hadn't been summoned by that guy... lol, anyways, so far, DS still rules, man am i glad i got it, not regretting it at all so far! ![]()  | 2010-07-16 08:17:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
That post silver, its came out of nowhere, thankyou for deciding to praise my name. ![]() Anyways silver you are getting good, when we got to leechmonger I was kind of silly, I couldn't see you so I tunred back to try and find you and I took the wrong step   and then it said the demon are has been opened. I was kinda worried becuse you were still learning but I told you to do it, and you did.Granted leechmonger isn't the most difficult but he is scary. Your going to be very good at the game I'll tell you that. Also, I didn't tell you but after we beet the 2-2 demon for me before we did anything else (and before I even went back to the nexus) I killed the dragon god. I needed to get payback for him killing me in the tutorial.  | 2010-07-16 10:00:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| What the?  Dragon God? You killed a dragon god in that time? lol i may knwo know what it is yet, but i'm quite sure you're not supposed to defeat it that fast! XD Oh and i think i know what happened when we got to leechmonger. As I remember you went down that ramp, owning everyone down there when i was talking to that NPC shop above i think, by the time i was going towards you you started to run back, and i jump down to where you were, so you must've missed me. I ran to get ya, but you'd already fallen then. ![]() (Completly forgot about the chat for some reason...) Man those bugs the boss shot were annoying... Good thing i still had some of that stuff to fire up my sword. ![]()  | 2010-07-16 11:52:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| I should level one of my other characters up to co op with you :o what SL are you? | 2010-07-16 14:22:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I just killed the red dragon, what should I do with his soul? | 2010-07-16 14:23:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812  | 
| Eat it. the small and large flame scale demon souls can't be given to anyone for anything, so just use it and give yourself a meager soul count boost. Not to be confused with the dragon demon's soul from the dragon god, which can give you some really powerful spells.  | 2010-07-16 14:27:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| yesterday we got to soul level 40. | 2010-07-16 14:53:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Eat it. the small and large flame scale demon souls can't be given to anyone for anything, so just use it and give yourself a meager soul count boost. Not to be confused with the dragon demon's soul from the dragon god, which can give you some really powerful spells. Thanks.   I'll eat it as soon as I get on the PS3. ![]()  | 2010-07-16 17:09:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812  | 
| I should level one of my other characters up to co op with you :o what SL are you? Back to 0 Turns out DS data isn't copyable, so couldn't pass it to the new PS3 ![]() ![]()  | 2010-07-18 00:58:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
  That sucks... | 2010-07-18 03:31:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
Hm, it wasn't so bad after all. ![]() I finished the 1st level in 1try, i made my char way better( face of last one wasy waaay bizzare.  ) got some stuff i hadn't last playthrough, altho i did loos all the grinding i did the other day... :/Well, i guess it has its ups and donws. ![]() Heck, i'm level 19 already. (Btw, i kinda kiled Miralda the exaecutioner, is that bad? I mean she did kinda try to hack me in half with that gigan't ax...  ) | 2010-07-18 07:20:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Killing Miralda shifts both world and character tendency towards black. Odd, I know considering it implies defending yourself against a homicidal maniac is "evil." | 2010-07-18 19:08:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| Um... How come I haven't encountered Miralda in any of my runs through 1-x? | 2010-07-18 19:09:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Um... How come I haven't encountered Miralda in any of my runs through 1-x? Neither have I, and I'me SL 68 and have played through 1-1 and 1-2. I wouldn't have thought it was possible to get much further than me at SL 19.  | 2010-07-18 19:12:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812  | 
| Um... How come I haven't encountered Miralda in any of my runs through 1-x? PROTIP: make sure to get that ring that doubles your equip burden...you'll thank me later....maybe you encounter her at the beginning of 1-1 where your first zombie like slave tries to attack you...where he comes from is a gate that ONLY OPENS WHEN YOU HAVE PURE WHITE SOUL TENDENCY and when entering there you'll find a crystal lizard and some cool items....but you'll encounter A LOT of BP slaves that are stronger then the weaker ones....still easy to dispatch but you they come at you in packs so its good to run into the hallway again and try to take them down one at a time...and there are like 2-3 groups of BP....after you defeat them there are some stairs to go up to a tower...now BEFORE ENTERING THE TOWER GET READY TO DODGE ROLL BACK OUT BECAUSE MIRALDA IS HIDING IN THE CORNER JUST NEXT TO THE DOOR ON THE INSIDE...once you enter inside you'll hear her try to attack you and when she fails (assuming you walked in and dodge rollled out) she will commence her attacks....he pattern is VERY PREDICTABLE come 10 seconds into the battle....after defeating her you get some special equipment and access to the tower.... PROTIP: DO NOT GO AFTER THE YELLOW ITEM SOUL THATS ON THE HIGH BEAM YOU WILL!!!! DIE!!!!....plus i think its a worthless small soul item so its not worth it....the TRUE TREASURE is finding BIORR'S dead brother at the end of the long ladder climb down....and since they where both the TWIN FANGS that means they shared the SAME BRUSHWOOD ARMOR SET so now this is where your equip burden ring comes into play and go to collect your prize hopefully i answered your question  | 2010-07-18 19:41:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| yea i did that on my first character, got bored thought ide go back to where those BP guys killed me, killed them, never encountered miralda, that brushwood was so heavy i ended up in some crazy drop and pick up and go back to nexus shuffle until i ened up with brushwood armour without legs and lost my gloom armor >_< started a new character XD | 2010-07-18 19:46:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924  | 
| I hate miralda on the later playthroughs its almost impossible to break her defense | 2010-07-18 19:54:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| FYI, the item on the high beam is actually a valuable colorless demon soul used to upgrade rare equipment. It's really dangerous to get as you need to drop at a very precise position onto the beam over a death pit but worth it if you use that kind of equipment. You might want to be packing an evacuate miracle or nexial binding as getting off the beam and down alive is even tricker. | 2010-07-18 19:55:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| Thanks for the replies. Yeah I figured she was in that area with the gate, though is that world tendency or character tendency? I guess why I was wondering how come silverleon found her is how could he possibly have the tendency on a brand new character? ![]() Also yeah I have that ring that doubles the equip burden.  | 2010-07-18 20:08:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| It's possible he was playing online and entered the area just as it hit pure white (it happens from time to time). | 2010-07-18 20:25:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| though is that world tendency or character tendency? world tendency only thing character tendency affects is the NEXUS while world tendency(depends on which archstone you're in) is based on ONLINE MAJORITY and also beating bosses in certain forms @Dapiek - oh so THAT'S what that was....oh well...tbh i can't be bothered with collecting one since it's too much risk just to upgrade the blueblood (forgot if the blueblood can upgrade with a colorless....doubt it)  | 2010-07-18 20:31:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| PROTIP: make sure to get that ring that doubles your equip burden When you defeat her you get some rare item and access to the tower.... PROTIP: DO NOT GO AFTER THE YELLOW ITEM SOUL THATS ON THE HIGH BEAM YOU WILL!!!! DIE!!!!....plus i think its a worthless small soul item so its not worth it. Wait, access to what tower tho? After i fought her I didn't see anything new in the area. (Oh and yeah, that ring is definately helpful, specially to a low level to be able to carry some decent armor w/out slowing down or falling when dodging.) Actually like someone mentioned, that's the soul of a primeval demon (or something like that) equivalent to those demons you might encounter in the mddle of a level, not quite the boss, but not one of the regulars either. yea i did that on my first character, got bored thought ide go back to where those BP guys killed me, killed them, never encountered miralda, that brushwood was so heavy i ended up in some crazy drop and pick up and go back to nexus shuffle until i ened up with brushwood armour without legs and lost my gloom armor >_< started a new character XD lol, yeah, i had to give up the shield it gives you. Doesn't matter tho, that flame shield you find where that fire resistance and equipment burden increase rings are, is much better than that shield, its lighter, has same defensive properties and gives more fire resistance. ![]() I hate miralda on the later playthroughs its almost impossible to break her defense Actually, she would've kicked my back area if she hadn't fallen on that pit in there after i guarded from here. ![]() So there are ways to make her fall apparently. FYI, the item on the high beam is actually a valuable colorless demon soul used to upgrade rare equipment. It's really dangerous to get as you need to drop at a very precise position onto the beam over a death pit but worth it if you use that kind of equipment. You might want to be packing an evacuate miracle or nexial binding as getting off the beam and down alive is even tricker. Its not that hard to get down actually, here's how: (vertical and orizontal points are from in front of the the ladder's point of view) So next to the ladder there should be a vertical piece of wood (or support beam, or whatever they're called) to walk to, keep walking until the broken area, fall in, anonther support beam is right below so you should be fin, the soul is now in the beam behind you, in the horizontal beam crossing with the one you're on, go get it, then go back to the vertical beam you fell to, there should be a horizontal beam right below it from which you can fall to, jump toit, then walk back to a safe area (the floor on the other side where the armor is, or the floor where the armor is itself, and you should be ok. ![]() (Altho i must admit i did get offed by the fall once before myself.  )Thanks for the replies. Yeah I figured she was in that area with the gate, though is that world tendency or character tendency? I guess why I was wondering how come silverleon found her is how could he possibly have the tendency on a brand new character? ![]() Also yeah I have that ring that doubles the equip burden. Actualy like i said, i had already beaten the 1st world once, so my tenedrsieas were already light. ![]() world tendency only thing character tendency affects is the NEXUS while world tendency(depends on which archstone you're in) is based on ONLINE MAJORITY and also beating bosses in certain forms. Wait what? So i just changed everyone's world thendercy for that world? Because when i killed her, that worlds tendercy went to neutral in my map...  | 2010-07-18 21:25:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| I thought tendency stays on the the character you play as? | 2010-07-18 21:33:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I thought tendency stays on the the character you play as? world tendency? while you're playing yes....but if you quit the game while playing online it all goes back to neutral because 80-90% of online players have neutral world tendency...and thats why people play in the holidays...because ATLUS sometimes changes the world tendency to pure white or pure black as for character tendency...that i think stays with you no matter what  | 2010-07-18 21:41:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| while world tendency(depends on which archstone you're in) is based on ONLINE MAJORITY and also beating bosses in certain forms Umm, i'm pretty sure world tendency has nothing to do with online. When one person has white tendency on a world that doesn't mean everyone else does, if that's what you were saying. Everyone's world tendencies are based on what THEY do in that world. Edit: Oh nevermind, just dug through the wiki page ![]() It says the tendency shifts towards whatever the majority is or something similar, so you can still grind towards tendencies but it'll change over time. Just confused me a little because you worded it weirdly.  | 2010-07-18 21:42:00 Author: Dexiro Posts: 2100  | 
| If you are messing with world tendency you have to go into offline play, they say that tendency usually stays in the middle but in my experience online it is usually around white pure white. | 2010-07-18 23:07:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| it's usually white...but thats it...so if you're trying to get PURE BLACK you're better off doing it offline since it'll take a while and getting off the game while online would reset back to white soul tendency | 2010-07-18 23:39:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Wait, so how come every time i die (in body form) in any level, the tendercy immediately darkens? Like i said, when i killed Miralda, thap place's tendercy went to neutral, so am I changing everyone's or what? I don't think so, since i doubt one person can do that... (Also, how/ when am i able to learn magic? I already got 1 spell memory, and got a weapon to use it, bt no one seems to be ablr to teach me... I can learn Miracles already, so i'm wondeering if its class/ level, or something else-restricted?)  | 2010-07-19 09:20:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Sage frekes disciple guy on the right side of the archstones should teach it too you. | 2010-07-19 12:08:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Sage frekes disciple guy on the right side of the archstones should teach it too you. The guy sitting in the wall, behind the area around world 5? That guy only tells me "he has nothing to say to a brute" or something like that... Do i need magician armor or something?  | 2010-07-19 14:10:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| The guy sitting in the wall, behind the area around world 5? That guy only tells me "he has nothing to say to a brute" or something like that... Do i need magician armor or something? If you have the slot open talk to him like twice and he will say go on then but know I'm doing it for the sage Freke.  | 2010-07-19 14:12:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| You probably need more intelligence or something like that. | 2010-07-19 14:13:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193  | 
| You probably need more intelligence or something like that. Ah yes, probably that, haven't really boosted it at all actually. ![]() Btw, i'm like lvl 36 now if anyone wants to join or doesn't mind helping.   (hey i'm already stronger than last time!   Thanks Shrine of storms.  ) | 2010-07-19 14:18:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
Hmm I have a couple characters I guess I could take up near that quickly if you'd like ![]()  | 2010-07-19 14:20:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I will see if I can get on the playstation and help out. | 2010-07-19 14:21:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| The guy sitting in the wall, behind the area around world 5? That guy only tells me "he has nothing to say to a brute" or something like that... Do i need magician armor or something? You need a magic level of at least ten before he says anything other than that. Once you've got the required level, he'll ask you to rescue Sage Freke from 3-1 and offer to teach you basic spells.  | 2010-07-19 14:35:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812  | 
| You need a magic level of at least ten before he says anything other than that. Once you've got the required level, he'll ask you to rescue Sage Freke from 3-1 and offer to teach you basic spells. I think its already at 11 actually, and already rescued Freke. Well anyways, i'l just level it up some more then. Well, as for now, i'm already at level 53 i think, something like that, already liked Dragon God and Old Monk, still kinda stuck on 1 - 3, 4 - 2 and 5 - 2 tho. So Are demons souls used for both spells and miracles, or are some souls just for specific spells, and specific miracles? Because tbh, there are some miracles that require demon's souls that i don't really think interest in and i was thinking i'd just use those, but if they can also be used to get certain spell, then that's a different story. ![]()  | 2010-07-20 19:16:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Yeah some demon souls can be used for many different spells and miracles. Obviously to get everything you'll need to play through the game a bunch of times. If the miracles don't interest you check with Freke and Yuria, there's also blacksmith ed with some badass weapons. | 2010-07-20 19:19:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Thinking of giving this game a try again, and hopefully get further than last time, as I only finished 1-1 and the dragon in 1-2. However, last time I played a Thief which somehow made it incredibly difficult for me, soooo, which class would you recommend for someone who prefers melee, but would also like some decent range-capabilities for when the need arises? I heard Royalty is a nice starting character, but I'm also looking at the Knight and the Soldier so yeah, utterly clueless.  | 2010-07-20 19:26:00 Author: Laina Posts: 99  | 
| I've already beaten this game on NG+ and am working on NG++ any tips for a melee character to get though it? Laina@ try the temple knight, its very easy to use compared to other melee classes. just wield the Halberd to hands.  | 2010-07-20 19:28:00 Author: Mod5.0 Posts: 1576  | 
| Hunter is also a good starting class since you have a good close range weapon and a long-raged weapon right from the start. Of course you always chose Royal, but that makes the game too easy. Also don't try 1-2 after 1-1. ![]() PS: Always helpful: http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/classes  | 2010-07-20 19:37:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193  | 
| Yah I got to NG++ starting out with a hunter class.  1-2 is one of the easier areas after 1-1 imo 2-1 is a good place to start out aswell.  | 2010-07-20 20:34:00 Author: Mod5.0 Posts: 1576  | 
| Thinking of giving this game a try again, and hopefully get further than last time, as I only finished 1-1 and the dragon in 1-2. However, last time I played a Thief which somehow made it incredibly difficult for me, soooo, which class would you recommend for someone who prefers melee, but would also like some decent range-capabilities for when the need arises? I heard Royalty is a nice starting character, but I'm also looking at the Knight and the Soldier so yeah, utterly clueless. my advice...ROYALTY being soul level 1 means you don't have to spend a lot of souls to level up its the best class for beginners because the higher your soul level is...the more souls you need to level up...so being soul level 1 is the main reason why ROYALTY is so popular with beginners...you also get soul arrow, a unique spell you get in the beginning and a head piece that increases MP by 100 so yeah that's my take on it...since i want you to get the most outta this game and enjoy it well  | 2010-07-21 02:05:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| I started a mage class yesterday morning and now I almost have all the rings except Foes ring and Friends Ring. My Build: vitality: 15 strength: 12 dexterity: 12 intelligence: 33 Magic: 30 faith: the level it started at. luck: the level it started at. Weapons and Armor: Crescent Falchion +4 Kris blade Dark Heater Shield +3 wood catalyst Old King Doran's armor I also have all of Sage Frekes spells. I did all of this in one day.  | 2010-07-21 13:32:00 Author: Mod5.0 Posts: 1576  | 
| Atlus have just tweeted this. AtlusUSA Pure White Tendency! Play #demonssouls for #PS3 the next 2 weeks for a slightly easier experience; keep your eyes open for unlocked secrets! So everyone playing the atlus (US) region game yay for us.  | 2010-07-21 23:09:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Pure white tendersy for 2 weeks? Sweet, to the grindmobile! ![]()  | 2010-07-21 23:50:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Atlus have just tweeted this. AtlusUSA Pure White Tendency! Play #demonssouls for #PS3 the next 2 weeks for a slightly easier experience; keep your eyes open for unlocked secrets! So everyone playing the atlus (US) region game yay for us. you know what this means sir....time to finish off #5 before this is over and it becomes a pain in the *** to do ![]()  | 2010-07-22 00:12:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Yay i have the US version! I should get playing ;D | 2010-07-22 00:44:00 Author: Dexiro Posts: 2100  | 
Oh really? Full white tendency event? I gotta check this out ![]()  | 2010-07-22 01:50:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
Oh really? Full white tendency event? I gotta check this out ![]() it's to celebrate their extended online until march(i think) 2011....and all i can say is THANK GOD   i love ATLUS/FROM SOFTWARE  | 2010-07-22 01:59:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| This is actually something of a regular occurance that Atlus does. They also do pure black on occasion as well such as on Halloween. | 2010-07-22 03:39:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| This is actually something of a regular occurance that Atlus does. They also do pure black on occasion as well such as on Halloween. yeah but this one isn't because of a holiday...it's because they renewed their online agreement and have extended it for another year...so BEERS all around ![]()  | 2010-07-22 03:44:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
If they did end the online I would rush out tomorrow and buy the European version of the game ![]()  | 2010-07-22 10:07:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
i would.....if they'd unlock game saves....seriously how lame is it that if my PS3 gets YLOD (which happened) that i have to Replay the whoooooole game all over again? ![]() anyways here's hoping that if the online ends...it's so make a game based off the same concept coming to us in a couple of months (LBP2 reference lol)  | 2010-07-22 16:53:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Shadow, you should make a new character, it isn't that difficult to start again and it is still very fun. I have used this pure white already to get executioner Miraldas armour on my important characters. My main character has never been in there pure white only pure black so thats good.  | 2010-07-22 17:16:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
i would.....if they'd unlock game saves....seriously how lame is it that if my PS3 gets YLOD (which happened) that i have to Replay the whoooooole game all over again? ![]() Ya, it sucks, had to restart my gameplay recently myself remember? ![]() But it turned out for the better. D It was kinda like how in LBP, you know, when you buld a bunch of a level, or an entire level, and it doesn't save, or it gets corrupted so you have to start over the level, at first your all D: but then when you re-build it its actually a llot better than last time, you know? Thankfully at least i didn't loose much over the transfer tho. ![]() (Altho my Assassins Creed II data was lost too.  )you know what this means sir....time to finish off #5 before this is over and it becomes a pain in the *** to do ![]() lol, indeed, sadly 5-2 still sucks with pure white tendercy.   Shadow, you should make a new character, it isn't that difficult to start again and it is still very fun. I have used this pure white already to get executioner Miraldas armour on my important characters. My main character has never been in there pure white only pure black so thats good. Wait, i thought this was only world tendercy, not character tendercy... Even a friend of mine said his character tendercy was not pure white. (Can't tell myself, character tendercy was pure white beforehand.) Anyways, already cleared Archstones 2-5, so just need to finish 1-3 &1-4 ![]() (Altho those 3 red-eyed knights that rush you when you get near 1-3's castle keep owning me...  ) | 2010-07-23 00:10:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| So anything special I Should do while the event's on? | 2010-07-23 00:34:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| 1-1 White World Tendency Events * Executioner Miralda will drop more items (Binded Set & Master's Ring), no Guillotine Axe like black tendency. * No dragons at their usual resting place 2-2 White World Tendency Events * Scirvir the Wanderer, show him Keel Smasher (named Dragon Bone Smasher in Atlus version) from 2-3 for a Pure Greystone. 2-3 White World Tendency Events * The debris to the left path will be cleared, you will get an unique extra large sword, Dragon Bone Smasher (named Keel Smasher in the Asian version) 3-1 White World Tendency Events * 2F West NPC, Lord Rydell can be rescued if you have the key. The reward is Dull Rat's Ring. * Nearby, previously blocked path by debris is accessible now, lots of items including Venerable Sage set and Three-Cornered Hat. * 2F East also accessible once you rescue Rydyell (Killing him seals 2F east for good). Items = Parrying Dagger, Rogue set. 3-2 White World Tendency Events * On top of the first tower, there will be a bridge leading to the 3-1 2F key, which allows rescuing Lord Rydell. 4-1 White World Tendency Events * Satsuki appears at the entrance looking for Magic Sword "Makoto" 4-2 White World Tendency Events * In the hole near Patches, the corpse that was stuck on the pillar will be on the ground now. The corpse will contain Magic Sword "Makoto" 5-1 White World Tendency Events * At the landing connecting the wooden plank walkways, immediately before the first Giant Goblin (within lock-on distance), there will be a ladder leading upward (Pure White world tendency required). Climb the ladder and watch out for a Giant Goblin halfway through the area, at the end of a short swinging bridge. Eventually the path leads to three giant goblins guarding the Istarelle spear. It's better to keep your distance and lure them to you (with a bow or ranged magic) one at a time. 5-2 White World Tendency Events * Selen Vinland will appear on a tiny island just past the first fog, as you turn the corner and begin the climb up the plankwalk you will see her on your right, drop off the walkway to talk to her and start a sidequest. 5-3 White World Tendency Events * Black phantom Garl Vinland appears.1 You have to kill Garl Vinland body form, then kill or make Maiden Astraea commit suicide, shift back to Nexus and return here, this will spawn Black phantom Garl Vinland, kill him and the Crest of Vinland is yours. there you go FOOFLES (and the rest of you) this is all from my source...so no credit goes to me...unless you wanna thank this post just because i made it easier for you to view it all then please go ahead and thank you  | 2010-07-23 00:47:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| 2-2White World Tendency Events* Scirvir the Wanderer, show him Keel Smasher (named Dragon Bone Smasher in Atlus version) from 2-3 for a Pure Greystone. Do you happen to know if that means just having the sword and you get to keep both the sword and the stone, or is it a trade-off? I just don't wanna trade the Dragon Bone Smasher for just a Pure Greystone.  | 2010-07-23 03:51:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| You just have to equip it and let him see it. Amazingly, he won't try and stab you in the back or anything. | 2010-07-23 04:10:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| You just have to equip it and let him see it. Amazingly, he won't try and stab you in the back or anything. in these troubled times...it's nice to know SOME people aren't out to get you ![]() anyways i don't think i'll take advantage of this event....already ragequitted 5th archstone....hate that place...all i can say is THANK GOD bramd isn't a sword otherwise i'd be ******  | 2010-07-23 04:52:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Wait, i thought this was only world tendercy, not character tendercy... Even a friend of mine said his character tendercy was not pure white. (Can't tell myself, character tendercy was pure white beforehand.) I never said anything about character tendency, I just worded it badly, what I meant was that I had never been to the executioner miralda place on pure white world tendency, only pure black world tendency. RE- 5-2, it is easy once you know how to avoid the giants in the swamp, once on safe ground you can use soul arrow to kill them from a distance, I can speed run that area in about 3 or 4 minutes on pretty much any newgame. I have never tried it pure black. I can't wait for Halloween its going to be so fun.  | 2010-07-23 07:28:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
Aright, just finished my 1st playthrough! ![]() Shouldn't have finished my 1st playthrough yet... XD I missed a bunch of stuff because i didn't know killig my last demon would mean activating the last event without a "would you like to proceed?" thing. ![]() Anywho, level eighty (or ninety?) something now, and the enemies are kinda tough again, not that much compared to the 1st time tho. And to my surprise, a BP arrived to my aid in the 1st level. ![]() He arrived, ran by me and kept killing the other enemies. ![]() Just goes to show you not all BPs are bad.  | 2010-07-23 07:58:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
Aright, just finished my 1st playthrough! ![]() Shouldn't have finished my 1st playthrough yet... XD I missed a bunch of stuff because i didn't know killig my last demon would mean activating the last event without a "would you like to proceed?" thing. ![]() Anywho, level eighty (or ninety?) something now, and the enemies are kinda tough again, not that much compared to the 1st time tho. And to my surprise, a BP arrived to my aid in the 1st level. ![]() He arrived, ran by me and kept killing the other enemies. ![]() Just goes to show you not all BPs are bad. So, I have to ask, how did you find the game?  | 2010-07-23 08:09:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| So, I have to ask, how did you find the game? Quite entertaining in deed, glad i bought it! ![]() Altho, i may have played it a tad too long without rest, so I may play my scond playthrough after i play some other game for a while. ![]() I don't know why people say it has a bad story tho, its not bad, its just simple and straightforward, sure, not the best out there, but not the bad either. ![]() Skill and strategy over most else, that's what i really like on this game, you can't let your guard down for a secon, or you'll regret it... :kz:  | 2010-07-23 08:30:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| I have to be honest, I was kind of worried. We pretty much persuaded you to buy it, if you didn't like it it was kinda our fault. But I new after those 6 hours or so we spent playing co-op that you loved it.  | 2010-07-23 08:37:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Does anyone want to add me? anyone..... PSN: Assassin_pug is anyone around level 115?  | 2010-07-26 23:30:00 Author: Mod5.0 Posts: 1576  | 
| here's hoping they end the pure white tendency soon....i need to go pure black on 5-2 and 4-1 so i can get the last weapons for my trophy....but yeah i dont wanna waste 14 stone of ephemeral eyes just to make it there | 2010-07-26 23:49:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| My posts generally get ignored, its ok I don't blame you. | 2010-07-26 23:52:00 Author: Mod5.0 Posts: 1576  | 
| My posts generally get ignored, its ok I don't blame you. there's nothing to reply to it with....you either get someone who wants to add you and they do....or they dont and ignore this post...but i dont see anybody quoting that post unless your ps3 doesn't notify you of their friend request  | 2010-07-27 00:01:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| here's hoping they end the pure white tendency soon....i need to go pure black on 5-2 and 4-1 so i can get the last weapons for my trophy....but yeah i dont wanna waste 14 stone of ephemeral eyes just to make it there I just kill the sage freke, it makes th BP in the pit keep respawning, infinite stones.  | 2010-07-27 00:06:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| I just kill the sage freke, it makes th BP in the pit keep respawning, infinite stones. i might research that....need to get the phosphorescent pole and Blind so i can finally own every weapon for the trophy  | 2010-07-27 00:11:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| I apologise, the lack of sleep made me get that wrong, it is saint urbain you want to kill. | 2010-07-27 00:27:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| oh i know what you're talking about now...thats the easiest method i could find....now i gotta get the miracles i want before slaughtering him | 2010-07-27 00:35:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Um... I am trying to run demon's souls but for some reason the signal to my TV cuts out everytime I try to run it? WTf? :/ | 2010-08-03 00:15:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| o.O thats weird. Anyoone mess up a characters stats so bad that its lol? I have a lv 101 archer with no health, and weak armour. So I can snipe demons but If i get touched i die ![]()  | 2010-08-03 00:19:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| o.O thats weird. Anyoone mess up a characters stats so bad that its lol? I have a lv 101 archer with no health, and weak armour. So I can snipe demons but If i get touched i die ![]() It is difficult to make any character that doesn't get 1 hit KO'd, I just find it easier not to get hit ![]()  | 2010-08-03 01:07:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
It is difficult to make any character that doesn't get 1 hit KO'd, I just find it easier not to get hit ![]() takes me a couple to go down...i emphasize A LOT on endurance...especially so i can achieve my goal of wearing the entire brushwood armor without slowing down  | 2010-08-03 02:09:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| you dont really need a lot of endurance, especialy if your melee. get it to about lv 20 and put on the Ring of Great Strength. Also I advise everyone who is playing for the first time to be melee or mage. DO NOT BE AN ARCHER ON THE FIRST PLAYTHROUGH!! D: Sure you'll be more powerful than any demon in the game, but once you hit New Game+ BAM your a nub because the stats that give you defense are too low so a lvl 10 in pvp could pwn you in one hit ![]()  | 2010-08-03 02:16:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| The absolute worse thing you can do with a character (well, third after not using souls at all or pouring all soul levels into luck) is completely spread your stats out evenly. Being a total glass cannon is fine so long as you can kill at a fast rate, but if you try and go with an absolute "jack-of-all-trades"-esque character you'd just end up with a character that can't really do anything well on anything worth mentioning. Only things I really dislike about archer builds is that chiseling away at very powerful enemies can get really tedious and that they are really unsuited for PvP. The last character build I made shunned away from ranged attacks almost completely (aside from using them on Storm Beasts and Crystal Lizards). | 2010-08-03 02:32:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| Yea, once you get to lv 60 dexterity, and get a Sticky Compound bow+5 it literally annihilates every boss in the game. All but the last boss in the game has a way to avoid fighting them which makes being an archer EXTREMELY easy on the first playthrough, but new game+ is nearly impossible ![]() What do you think is the perfect character build? I'd have to go with: Magician(start off with the fire spell and water veil) 25 Health(once you go new game+ its best to get it up to 40) 20 Intelligence(this is good enough to use almost every spell twice) 15 Endurance( lets you wear heavy armour and your weapons without being weighed down if you use the ring of great strength) 25 strength(to use non heavy swords) 15 Dexterity (i think this is the minimum requirement for the long bow)) 10 faith (so you can use the evacuation miracle) I would get my Magic to about 60 then go even between this and Vitality to get as strong as possible. Which ends up being lv 66 This way your insanely strong at a low lv and can still handle yourself without magic if needed without putting too many levels into unneeded stats  | 2010-08-03 03:17:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
I'm really liking my mage character... although I almost feel like I made a mistake. I gave myself firestorm and think I actually don't like it as much as I hoped. lol   I should go for god's wrath. | 2010-08-03 17:18:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Check Wikidsouls for information on all the spells Im thinking about going battlemage..  | 2010-08-03 23:30:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| blueblood defeats all your silly builds....and makes for excellent farming of items since it involves raising my luck skill...and with the Large Sword of Searching i DOUBLE my chances of RARE DROPS but yeah i guess your builds are ok too  | 2010-08-04 00:31:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| blueblood defeats all your silly builds.... joo lie!!!!  | 2010-08-04 03:34:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| The "perfect" character build is any character whom someone with way too much free time on their hands took the time to get to level 712 with 99 in every stat.  All things considered, I'm personally not patient enough to try. And it's generally accepted that luck only influences the frequency of common drops, which means it would only be useful in farming if your only after them but because they'll be considered ahead of rare drops in the drop queue it's actually detrimental if you're farming for something uncommon. This means unless your after nothing but common drops, Blueblood Sword is literally the only reason to raise luck at all (because disease resistance is a total waste of time). And frankly, since I tend to use multiple weapon types that rely on around two different stats I tend to not bother with either the sword or the stat. On that note, I've been debating making a character build centered around status effects, parries and ripostes, as opposed to assorted damage types and heavy shields. On one hand, the idea of trying to inflict bleed, poison, plague, and equipment broke on a person all at once in PvP is intriguing, but I have to question the efficiency of such a strategy in both PvP and PvE (especially since a lot of bosses are immune to status effects). But it might be interesting for a challenge.  | 2010-08-04 03:38:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| Builds are for the first playthrough, when you get to New Game+ you pretty much know which stats your increasing. | 2010-08-04 03:49:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
I'm so happy I got this to play again    I'm not following any builds from the site, but my dude is pretty high in the magic and int department but I still feel like he does weak damage ![]()  | 2010-08-04 04:08:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Weak Magic damage? | 2010-08-04 04:11:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| Are you playing in New Game+?  Enemies as a whole are stronger but weaker ones should go down fast enough. It could be that the type of enemy your fighting is resistant versus the type of magic your using, but outside of using fire on enemies in world 2 I can't really think of anything in general. And when I say "making a character build" I mean "start a whole new character" seperate from previous ones.  | 2010-08-04 04:23:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
Yeah, weak magic damage. And yeah I'm in NG+ but even in the first game somehow I felt my character was kind of in the weak end. I don't know, maybe I'm crazy. ![]()  | 2010-08-04 04:39:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
Well, the game kinda does kinda revolve around trying you to feel weak, aka, be difficult. ![]()  | 2010-08-04 04:44:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| lol I am aware of that. How about in PVP, any advice for when my moves seem to barely be hurting other players? Homing soul arrow seems to work wonders though, and firestorm if it connects. | 2010-08-04 04:46:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| The "perfect" character build is any character whom someone with way too much free time on their hands took the time to get to level 712 with 99 in every stat.  All things considered, I'm personally not patient enough to try. You can get 10 billion souls in a few minutes by removing the patch and repeatedly killing yourself on one save and collecting your souls with another. I messed around with a level 712 character using this method after completing the game a few times.  | 2010-08-04 05:52:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
| You can get 10 billion souls in a few minutes by removing the patch and repeatedly killing yourself on one save and collecting your souls with another. I messed around with a level 712 character using this method after completing the game a few times. Yea but doesn't that only work with the Asian version?  | 2010-08-04 05:55:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| You can get 10 billion souls in a few minutes by removing the patch and repeatedly killing yourself on one save and collecting your souls with another. I messed around with a level 712 character using this method after completing the game a few times. Yea but doesn't that only work with the Asian version? Yeah, you can't remove the patch on the NA and EU versions 'cause it comes on-disk. The Asian version I have has all kinds of funny typos in the item descriptions btw.  | 2010-08-04 05:58:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
FML for having to be legit ![]() Would have loved that glitch  | 2010-08-04 06:03:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| Yeah, it wouldn't make sense to buy the same game twice anyway. When I imported it I didn't know it was going to be released in America let alone Europe, so I took the plunge.  | 2010-08-04 06:06:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
| there's actually a cool glitch you can use where it opens ALL ARCHSTONES...making it easier for you to pick where you want to go and such.... and supposedly if you haven't beaten the boss in that area you'll basically start the fight  | 2010-08-04 06:38:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Your so cool. | 2010-08-04 06:40:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| Everyone needs to start enjoying the weak felling, new game ++++++ makes you fell like a stick insect. | 2010-08-04 08:57:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Everyone needs to start enjoying the weak felling, new game ++++++ makes you fell like a stick insect. i dont think this game can keep my attention THAT long...by then i woulda already platinumed the game meaning i woulda had EVERYTHING ever made in the game...and only the PVP would be good enough reason to play and even THEN newer games are keeping my attention idk how you do it lol....still i applaud it kinda wish ATLUS would make another of their DEMON games....they're good at demon stuff (shin megami tensei anyone?   ) | 2010-08-04 23:52:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
Anyone else hate losing all your souls when you were one kill away from a soul level   I was going against the giants in 5-1 and using homing soul arrow, but my little beads all hit the bridge posts and poofed. | 2010-08-05 13:20:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I used to hate the giant depraved ones more then anything else in the game, as you'd have to usually resort to relatively slow long range hit-and-run tactics to kill them safely.  Though lately I've had good results in taking them down by luring them in very close and then circle strafing, not rolling, around them (preferrably clockwise). Because they can only attack by winding up and swinging straight down or diagonally from the upper right to downward left, if you can keep up momentum they'll almost always miss and you can strike them a few times from behind (preferrably with a slashing weapon, since they seem vulnerable to bleeding) and repeat till they die. If you can't seem to maintain momentum, you can either back up and feint it into swinging and then rework your way around it or use a shield to absorb the blow and keep strafing till stamina is regained. This even works in 5-2 where there's only some dry land to work on because if you can lure them onto dry land and engage one at a time, you shouldn't need too much land to work on and can avoid moving in water too often during battle.  | 2010-08-06 03:25:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| Oh  I hated the giants on that little island on 5-2, in my first game I used homing soul arrow on them for a quick kill...  that is, if I managed to get it to home in on them, usually worked great  I think I'l stick to that tactic in the NG+ , or maybe use firestorm. Speaking of firestorm, I had a lot of fun recently with the reaper in 4-2... basically I fall and land on his head and he's stunned and I just firestorm him. I'm not sure why but I find it extremely entertaining, I keep yelling "I got your nose!" .. ... Ok I'm insane. ![]()  | 2010-08-06 04:33:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Whew you guys are braver than I was. I hid back on the cliffside and slowly chipped away at those giant depraved ******** one arrow at a time. When they wandered off like doofuses looking for what was making their head-bones itch with fire-sticks, I just waited. 5-2 took me a loooong time.  | 2010-08-06 10:45:00 Author: Teebonesy Posts: 1937  | 
| After doing 5-2 fully once I don't bother getting anything anymore, I have a speed run path that means I can avoid all the giants and do the area in like 3 minutes. | 2010-08-06 11:00:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| BOO! ... I just lost a ton of souls because my controller's signal cut off and I ran straight off a cliff... | 2010-08-06 14:48:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Lol @ you guys actually fighting those things Erhmmmm.....theives ring + wall hugging = me getting bramd and blind with little retaliation ![]()  | 2010-08-06 17:51:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
I avoided them a couple times but then fell on the wooden planks.. so I kill everything out of frustration ![]()  | 2010-08-06 20:18:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
level 66 dex with sticky coumpound long bow+5= 2 shot kill on the giant depraved ones ![]()  | 2010-08-07 07:09:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| Did anyone else here play through the game without using guides or faqs or anything? Just full-blown winging it? I played and had no idea if there was a level cap at 99 or what. I had no idea what the bosses had in store for me (you can imagine the old monk practically made me poo myself) or what weapons to forge for what builds. I didn't know what was around the next corner or how the hell to proceed. I was terrified every step of the way. It was awesome, and ever since I went in and tried collecting the unique stuff and started grinding and forging weapons it just became a slog. But I can scarcely think of a game that blew me away more than playing through this game blind and scared. | 2010-08-07 08:56:00 Author: Teebonesy Posts: 1937  | 
I went in unknowing, got to level 80 and found out I completely messed up my stats ![]() After that it was Wikidsouls 100% of the way. ![]()  | 2010-08-07 09:00:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| Did anyone else here play through the game without using guides or faqs or anything? Just full-blown winging it? I played and had no idea if there was a level cap at 99 or what. I had no idea what the bosses had in store for me (you can imagine the old monk practically made me poo myself) or what weapons to forge for what builds. I didn't know what was around the next corner or how the hell to proceed. I was terrified every step of the way. It was awesome, and ever since I went in and tried collecting the unique stuff and started grinding and forging weapons it just became a slog. But I can scarcely think of a game that blew me away more than playing through this game blind and scared. Same here dude, only until recently did i started to use that wiki, but before that i was winging it (which is why i missed so many things the 1st playthrough... >_>) Speaking of "witch," does anyone know if I don't rescue ostrava on 1-2 and kill the Tower Knight, but then go back and rescue him before going to where he appears in 1-3, will he still appear? If not then... D: I once again blew my chance to do that other sidequest and stuff....  | 2010-08-07 09:39:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Did anyone else here play through the game without using guides or faqs or anything? Just full-blown winging it? I played and had no idea if there was a level cap at 99 or what. I had no idea what the bosses had in store for me (you can imagine the old monk practically made me poo myself) or what weapons to forge for what builds. I didn't know what was around the next corner or how the hell to proceed. I was terrified every step of the way. It was awesome, and ever since I went in and tried collecting the unique stuff and started grinding and forging weapons it just became a slog. But I can scarcely think of a game that blew me away more than playing through this game blind and scared. This is mostly how I played through the game and I agree with the feeling. That first really started setting for me in the prison tower, never before in a game did I proceed so cautiously... for one, it's so dark and murky that you could just fall off the ledge if you run around... for two... badass enemies! NG+ Doesn't have that effect at all but it's still fun.  | 2010-08-07 15:19:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| Kinda ashamed to admit that I started looking into faqs around the time I started getting deeper into world two, then I really started looking into them in world three when I hit that hurdle of taking out the twin maneater bosses (took me so many tries the first time through).  Funny thing is, the advice I got online turned out to be a lot less useful to me in hindsight.  And by the end after I beat all the archdemons I still realize I missed a lot.  After mainly relying on arrows and spells to take out most challenges the game had I started feeling really cheesy in how I went about it and decided to go full-on "manly" style and take out the big guys with full melee (except Storm King, because you can't technically beat it in close-range combat. Amazingly, the bosses that presented the most challenge to me with my first character's first cycle I could walk all over now with my new character (took out both the Maneaters and False King in one attempt). Flamelurker, who I actually had never lost to with my older character, turned out to be the biggest hurdle in my new character's first run, though it was largely due to not having a means to deal magically-enchanted melee attacks at the time.  | 2010-08-07 18:56:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| I told my friend where to place his blue eye stone but I cant see it. Is there any guraunteed way to get in together? Edit: nevermind, im stupid, I got it though  | 2010-08-08 03:41:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| This is mostly how I played through the game and I agree with the feeling. That first really started setting for me in the prison tower, never before in a game did I proceed so cautiously... for one, it's so dark and murky that you could just fall off the ledge if you run around... for two... badass enemies! NG+ Doesn't have that effect at all but it's still fun. Sounds almost exactly like my experience. That prison tower was kind of a defining moment for me with this game. Those cthulhu demon guards could pretty much one-hit me my first time through. I didn't know my way around - and as you say, a single misstep can mean instant death. Dark, gloomy, lots of corners and hidden cells where anything could jump out, and the sound of those god forsaken bells when you know there's an unspeakable thing around the next corner. That tower especially impressed me with its design - I occasionally got lost, but the whole time I was amazed at what I was playing. It didn't feel like videogame design. Rather than feel really fake and contrived to be a fun gameplay experience (cough-uncharted-cough) - it felt like a real location that had been discovered, and a game was placed inside it. Some of the best level design I've seen in years. Also, just want to mention how freaking bummed I am. I got back into a bit the other day and wanted to take advantage of this Pure White tendency event... but it looks like I just BARELY missed out. Booooo. Now I gotta wait another 8 months until the next one.  | 2010-08-08 03:43:00 Author: Teebonesy Posts: 1937  | 
| I told my friend where to place his blue eye stone but I cant see it. Is there any guraunteed way to get in together? your soul levels need to be close so he can't be a newcomer and play with your high level...you need to have matching levels or nearby  | 2010-08-08 03:49:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| Yeah I logged in during the last day or two of the pure white event so I managed to kill the executioner at least, but missed things like the makoto blade. And yes... those bell chimes. They sent shivers up my spine when I first played the prison tower, but now those mind flayers just fall too easily. Now if anything the game just gets annoying when I get ganked by an enemy. Annoying vs. Terrifying. Hmmm.. what a transformation.  | 2010-08-08 04:25:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| D: Her I am, trying to save Patches from the blast of that Bug thing (3-2) by rolling him away, and he starts attacking me, I got away, and didn't kill him, but when i returned to Nexus, he was dead..... ![]() Anyone knows who else sells the herbs he sold? Sounds almost exactly like my experience. That prison tower was kind of a defining moment for me with this game. Those cthulhu demon guards could pretty much one-hit me my first time through. I didn't know my way around - and as you say, a single misstep can mean instant death. Dark, gloomy, lots of corners and hidden cells where anything could jump out, and the sound of those god forsaken bells when you know there's an unspeakable thing around the next corner. That tower especially impressed me with its design - I occasionally got lost, but the whole time I was amazed at what I was playing. It didn't feel like videogame design. Rather than feel really fake and contrived to be a fun gameplay experience (cough-uncharted-cough) - it felt like a real location that had been discovered, and a game was placed inside it. Some of the best level design I've seen in years. Also, just want to mention how freaking bummed I am. I got back into a bit the other day and wanted to take advantage of this Pure White tendency event... but it looks like I just BARELY missed out. Booooo. Now I gotta wait another 8 months until the next one. Actually, those Cthulu demons, aren't harmful at all with an Anti-Magic Field. ![]() Those things are defenceless, since they rely on magic to attack (can't stab you w/out paralizing you which uses magic.) So I usually equip it when going to 3-1 and 3-3 (for the BP Cthulus) unless I go just to be summoned as the Monk. ![]() And don't worry dude, maybe they'll do one more Christmas or New Year? ![]()  | 2010-08-08 04:33:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| I made a new character and we are the same level, still can't see it :/ | 2010-08-08 04:57:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
| Same version? NA players can't play wth EU players, different servers for each.So you both either have to have the NA version, or the EU version, or whichever version both of you can get.  | 2010-08-08 05:17:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Did anyone else here play through the game without using guides or faqs or anything? Just full-blown winging it? I played and had no idea if there was a level cap at 99 or what. I had no idea what the bosses had in store for me (you can imagine the old monk practically made me poo myself) or what weapons to forge for what builds. I didn't know what was around the next corner or how the hell to proceed. I was terrified every step of the way. It was awesome, and ever since I went in and tried collecting the unique stuff and started grinding and forging weapons it just became a slog. But I can scarcely think of a game that blew me away more than playing through this game blind and scared. Yeah, I played it blind. I don't see how anyone can watch playthroughs beforehand and not be robbed of a huge part of the experience. Sounds almost exactly like my experience. That prison tower was kind of a defining moment for me with this game. Those cthulhu demon guards could pretty much one-hit me my first time through. I didn't know my way around - and as you say, a single misstep can mean instant death. Dark, gloomy, lots of corners and hidden cells where anything could jump out, and the sound of those god forsaken bells when you know there's an unspeakable thing around the next corner. Were you scared when you first started to hear that person singing? It really creeped me out. It was so eerie... That level probably took me the longest time to complete. I was completely disorientated and scared of falling off a ledge, which happened more times than I care to mention. ![]()  | 2010-08-08 06:30:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
| Originally Posted by Silverleon D: Her I am, trying to save Patches from the blast of that Bug thing (3-2) by rolling him away, and he starts attacking me, I got away, and didn't kill him, but when i returned to Nexus, he was dead..... Anyone knows who else sells the herbs he sold? You don't actually need to move Patches away from the giant bearbug for him to survive. I always kill it and he always survives the blast (in my experience anyway). You can buy some Darkmoon Grass from the filthy woman in the Valley of Defilement, but New Moon Grass you'll just have to farm off Spies and Fat guys in Boletaria.  | 2010-08-08 17:13:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
| I just got the platinum for this game. | 2010-08-19 23:41:00 Author: Mod5.0 Posts: 1576  | 
| I've been playing this online with a friend recently. It's a lot of fun if you run skype and know who you're playing with. It's actually the most fun I have had in a long time, I would say. It also makes you a lot more worried about dying, since one of you has to be in human form during the whole thing, so you actually have a reason to care. Granted, I don't actually find the game that difficult at all. It's maybe difficult if you just run around and try to slash at things with little strategy. It's unwise to rambo it all, yeah. Ultimately it's not difficult, just a little bit unforgiving. Though, I can think of plenty of games more difficult, and less forgiving than Demon's Souls. | 2010-08-21 05:37:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412  | 
| refreshing also COMEOOOOOON Demon's Souls 2 FROM SOFTWARE dont let me down also possibly a follow up to 3D.DGH and maby even a new king's field | 2010-08-22 20:25:00 Author: Unknown User  | 
Anyone still playing this? I stopped playing when I got stuck on one of the levels but picked it up again today and I'm loving it! Had to play 1-1 a few times to get me used to the difficulty again but it's plain sailing now  . | 2011-01-10 06:36:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
Anyone still playing this? I stopped playing when I got stuck on one of the levels but picked it up again today and I'm loving it! Had to play 1-1 a few times to get me used to the difficulty again but it's plain sailing now  .I haven't played in a while, maybe I should test my skills with a speed run ![]()  | 2011-01-10 11:44:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| I pop it in now and then, it's a fun game, not as many people playing it right now though, but I'm glad the servers are still up. | 2011-01-10 15:34:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
I'm planning on buying it at some point ![]()  | 2011-01-10 16:26:00 Author: Unknown User  | 
I'm planning on buying it at some point ![]() Well worth it man! Just finished 2 more demon's. Playing 5-2 now, have 1 and 2 of the other 4 worlds done. 4-2 demon was a bit of a disappointment, way easier than 3-2. Still I guess I shouldn't complain, the game's hard enough as it is! ![]()  | 2011-01-12 15:19:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
Well worth it man! Just finished 2 more demon's. Playing 5-2 now, have 1 and 2 of the other 4 worlds done. 4-2 demon was a bit of a disappointment, way easier than 3-2. Still I guess I shouldn't complain, the game's hard enough as it is! ![]() The game isn't really played through in order though. like the fact you have to kill an archdemon from one of the other worlds to get into 1-3 Personally I think world 4 is the easiest boss wise so that is the world I do first. The skeletons are horrible but taking them out 1 at a time will make you survive easily. The hardest boss IMO is 3-2 or 3-3 if you get an actual player playing as the black phantom. You have 2 bosses to deal with and you are on a small bridge. It is horrible on the first playthrough. They are easy in new game plus though because you just use the strongest magic XD  | 2011-01-12 16:03:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| The game isn't really played through in order though. like the fact you have to kill an archdemon from one of the other worlds to get into 1-3 Personally I think world 4 is the easiest boss wise so that is the world I do first. The skeletons are horrible but taking them out 1 at a time will make you survive easily. The hardest boss IMO is 3-2 or 3-3 if you get an actual player playing as the black phantom. You have 2 bosses to deal with and you are on a small bridge. It is horrible on the first playthrough. They are easy in new game plus though because you just use the strongest magic XD 3-2? hell yeah 3-3? hardly...it's online PVP...and if you wan't to make it easier just play offline hardest boss is 5-3 if you're fighting garl vinland instead of being cheap and killing the maiden and loading the save after killing her...only because it's like PVP but with someone with a huge hammer...plus if you fall near the pit of babies you're plagued...so i'd call that the hardest BOSS and the hardest world is 5...so annoying with poison and giant trolls and confusing mazes and shortcuts that take forever to get there...and yeah lol  | 2011-01-12 17:44:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| 3-2? hell yeah  3-3? hardly...it's online PVP...and if you wan't to make it easier just play offline hardest boss is 5-3 if you're fighting garl vinland instead of being cheap and killing the maiden and loading the save after killing her...only because it's like PVP but with someone with a huge hammer...plus if you fall near the pit of babies you're plagued...so i'd call that the hardest BOSS and the hardest world is 5...so annoying with poison and giant trolls and confusing mazes and shortcuts that take forever to get there...and yeah lol 5 is definitely the hardest world but Garl is a pushover he just takes a while to kill. The hardest part of 5 is the monsters rather than the demons.  | 2011-01-12 17:48:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
5-3 was dead easy. Garl Vinland hardly moves, so all you have to is hit him and retreat two steps. Repeat that a few dozen times and you win without even losing health. ![]() But yeah, Maneater is so annoying... and all of world 5. (Though I never actually saw one of the babies... Just turned left and encountered Garl on the narrow ledge.) Awesome game. Such an amazing (-ly scary) atmosphere.  | 2011-01-12 17:51:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193  | 
| yeah supposedly there's going to either be a sequel, or another game with the same elements...either way it's called "PROJECT DARK" IIRC and I hope it gets out soon also hoping Atlus also makes a 3D Dot Game Heroes 2 as that game is deserving as well but then again this is all about demon's souls ![]() all I can say is I wish the online was more "open" currently you need to be around the same level as your friend if you guys want to have fun and kill bosses together...so it's not that fun to be planning out when to use your souls to level up with your pals to adventure together...hopefully the new game has an online as innovative as this but still allowing friends to connect and share adventures and stories  | 2011-01-12 18:11:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
It has one of the oddest online components I've ever seen. I played as the mad monk boss like 4 times, it's good fun ![]()  | 2011-01-12 21:53:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
It has one of the oddest online components I've ever seen. I played as the mad monk boss like 4 times, it's good fun ![]() you think that's fun? wait til you get a red eye stone ![]()  | 2011-01-12 22:01:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
you think that's fun? wait til you get a red eye stone ![]() I love it when you get nice people on the red eye stone who don't try to double team you and fight honourably.  | 2011-01-12 22:05:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
In world 5 you can bypass having to fight 90% of the demons, then for the garl vinland stuff, you can stay on the ledge and kill the boss with a bow and then reload the game to kill him. ![]() Also, with high magic, homing soul arrow cheaps out every boss in about 2-3 hits. ![]()  | 2011-01-12 22:10:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800  | 
In world 5 you can bypass having to fight 90% of the demons, then for the garl vinland stuff, you can stay on the ledge and kill the boss with a bow and then reload the game to kill him. ![]() Also, with high magic, homing soul arrow cheaps out every boss in about 2-3 hits. ![]() you mean maiden astrea...garland will block ALL projectiles and with his dark silver your magic is pretty useless  | 2011-01-12 22:21:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| You can actually easily hit him with homing soul arrow, which is a magic attack. That's how I did it in my first playthrough and in NG+. You just need to walk up to him and then back up when he gets aggravated. | 2011-01-13 03:11:00 Author: zynax555 Posts: 170  | 
I haven't played in a while, maybe I should test my skills with a speed run ![]() Heh, good luck with that, fastest one posted online, from the beggining of a new game (creating a new char) to the end of the 1st playthrough is either 54 mins or 1 hour 04 mins, something like that. ![]() So...yeah, you think you can beat that, you should record it. ![]() yeah supposedly there's going to either be a sequel, or another game with the same elements...either way it's called "PROJECT DARK" IIRC and I hope it gets out soon also hoping Atlus also makes a 3D Dot Game Heroes 2 as that game is deserving as well but then again this is all about demon's souls ![]() Atlus is jut the NA publisher I believe, the developer is "Software" they're the ones that made Demon's Souls and 3D Dot Game Heroes, don't get them confused. ![]()  | 2011-01-13 03:34:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
Atlus is jut the NA publisher I believe, the developer is "Software"  they're the ones that made Demon's Souls and 3D Dot Game Heroes, don't get them confused. ![]() you mean FROM SOFTWARE right? don't get that confused ![]()  | 2011-01-13 03:42:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
Arghh I wish I didn't sell my copy. It was so fun invading people's worlds and ruining their day. I would usually invade in levels that were huge and allowed me the chance to run ahead of the player, so I could set up a trap and wait patiently for the player to fall in it.   Haha, I was quite evil. | 2011-01-13 13:29:00 Author: TheJollyRajah Posts: 466  | 
| Didn't realise the final bosses were so close to the 2nd bosses. I'm on the False King now... **** he's tough!!! I'm a melee character mostly and I'm sick of losing soul levels, I know ya get the souls back when ya touch the blood stain but still. Any tips? | 2011-01-13 17:21:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| Didn't realise the final bosses were so close to the 2nd bosses. I'm on the False King now... **** he's tough!!! I'm a melee character mostly and I'm sick of losing soul levels, I know ya get the souls back when ya touch the blood stain but still. Any tips? Well he is a difficult one, if you have the ability to cast a defense spell do it because that will keep you alive. I always enchant my weapon so do that too. When he does his swing attack roll to his left and he will miss you (I think its his left) when he does his blast attack just sprint as far away as possible. I usually hit him 3 or 4 times then move away. Good Luck XD  | 2011-01-13 17:33:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Stick to heavy weapons for strong, single attacks, or if you're using quick weapons don't hit him anymore then three times (or less) before backing off. Keep you're shield up and keep moving around him while backing up and taking care to roll properly to avoid backing into a corner. Make sure you're armor burden isn't so high that it is reducing your ability to roll, you are almost required to be able to roll well to beat the False King. Like Robotiod said, use Warding if you got it, it makes the difference between dying from one to three hits to surviving six to eight without healing.  The False King's weakness is he greatly telegraphs most of his (greatly damaging) attacks; if he holds his sword up with one hand and goes "Hmmmm!!!" he is preparing for a rush attack, if he leaps up in the air he will do a downward chop (roll to the side just before he connects to evade both), if he holds his sword up with both hands or holds it in a side stance with one hand he is going to unleash a long-range shockwave (go backward diagonally and roll to the side for both), if he holds up his empty palm that glows he is going to use a short-range grab that will drain a soul level (just roll backwards). Never stay close to him while waiting for a chance to hit him between attacks, as he will use a short-range combo attack that comes out fast, eats up a lot of stamina if you block, and will probably kill you if you don't defend against it. When he points his sword downward to do the blast attack he is actually wide open to being hit which interrupts it completely. You have about three-four seconds to hit him before it goes off; it sounds like a short amount of time but unless you're over seven meters from him (range may differ depending on weapon) you have enough time to run up and hit him with a rushing attack, otherwise just run away (you can also use this time to heal yourself). Finally, you might want to just take on the other worlds before fighting him to get stronger or get better stuff (I think I was around level 60 when I beat him the first time). The False King is easily the hardest of the Archdemons you'll fight as the other ones are mostly puzzle bosses (although some of the Demon bosses you fight and the levels themselves before them may prove tough); he's the archdemon I usually fight next to last out of the five.  | 2011-01-14 07:16:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka Posts: 512  | 
you mean FROM SOFTWARE right? don't get that confused ![]() Wait what...that doesn't even make any sense... O_o Yes, that's what I said...why repeating it? You were saying ATLUS made the games...so I don't see what you're trying to say here...  | 2011-01-14 07:55:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Wait what...that doesn't even make any sense... O_o Yes, that's what I said...why repeating it? You were saying ATLUS made the games...so I don't see what you're trying to say here... I'm trying to be commanding like you and tell everyone not to get things confused ![]() and yes it's called FROM SOFTWARE...doesn't matter if it makes sense or not that's what they named themselves also stating that I said Atlus made the games....i don't see why you put that there or what you're trying to say with that  | 2011-01-14 08:36:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
Finished it! Woop!!! Really liked the ending. And have now beaten Phalanx in NG+  .EDIT: NG+ is pretty tough. Well not as tough as playing from the very start but still, you have to be careful again. Warding is a godsend (heh, that's kind of a pun... not intended... but I like it), NG+ would be so much harder without it. Loving how many souls I'm getting. Just playing through 4-1 now so I can get to the adjudicator archstone for farming. Really want the Blueblood sword but my stats aren't high enough to use it yet. SDMF stats are 18/19/13/16... so yeah... probably shouldn't have put as much into Intelligence and Endurance, they're 30 and 33. This game is great  . | 2011-01-14 14:06:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
Finished it! Woop!!! Really liked the ending. And have now beaten Phalanx in NG+  .But do remember that all those zommies in 1-1 are super weak, I got up to flame lurker in NG+ and then gave up, lol. My skillset wasn't nearly focussed enough to take him down :/  | 2011-01-15 01:37:00 Author: Asbestos101 Posts: 1114  | 
| But do remember that all those zommies in 1-1 are super weak, I got up to flame lurker in NG+ and then gave up, lol. My skillset wasn't nearly focussed enough to take him down :/ Yeah I forgot to make my Blueblood Sword before starting NG+. I beat Flamelurker about an hour ago. I was very cheap though. Noticed that he sometimes gets stuck running towards some rubble at the far fog gate. So I stood at that fog gate and just shot soul ray at him with the ring of magical sharpness equipped. Does a few hundred damage each hit. If he repositions and rushes ya, just haul *** and sprint to the other end, then sprint back when he follows you and repeat. Died a few times but got it done and now I have my lovely Blueblood Sword! Kinda running out of new things to do... kinda lost interest now that I don't have anything new to aim for really... except beating it again... think I'm going to take a break for a while again. Still, awesome game!!! Can't wait for Project Dark! EDIT: Actually there's still a lot of trophies to get. Think I'll wait until the next Pure Black Tendency Event (hopefully halloween) and then start farming those stones  . | 2011-01-15 02:04:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| But do remember that all those zommies in 1-1 are super weak, I got up to flame lurker in NG+ and then gave up, lol. My skillset wasn't nearly focussed enough to take him down :/ thieves ring poison cloud (remove any HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR ALL/unless you have some with effects to boost magic)....yes you will need to remove unnecessary equipment to run fast once you enter the gate wait for him to charge(which is probably instantly)...once you see him about to charge run like hell RIGHT NEXT TO THE STAIRCASE IN THE SHADOWS since you have the thieves ring and you're in the shadows the flamelurker will assume you died...so he'll return back to his regular position and that's when you sit there in the darkness, you can get out of the staircase with silent steps but obviously don't get TOO CLOSE....just enough to cast poison cloud...which will gradually deplete his life while you go back behind the staircase in the darkness...it'll take a long time to do...but it's GUARANTEED to earn you that kill and THAT my friend is how you END the flamelurker....seriously easiest boss in the game because of this one strategy...only need the patience...and while I don't have patience...I like being alive...so I do it ![]()  | 2011-01-15 05:45:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| I used the poison cloud to kill so many bosses while I just hid out of their view... good times... | 2011-01-15 05:56:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I used the poison cloud to kill so many bosses while I just hid out of their view... good times... Wow... and I thought I was cheap! ![]()  | 2011-01-15 11:25:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
Wow... and I thought I was cheap! ![]() NG+++ I killed nearly all the bosses with Firestorm XD  | 2011-01-15 11:28:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
Wow... and I thought I was cheap! ![]() Haha, but the enemies in the game are ********. ![]() NG+++ I killed nearly all the bosses with Firestorm XD I started doing that on NG+, I haven't finished my NG+ run. The enemies in world 4... ugh.  | 2011-01-15 22:30:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I started doing that on NG+, I haven't finished my NG+ run. The enemies in world 4... ugh. Warding + Light Weapon FTW! ![]() Heh... I'm pretty happy with my character at the moment. Only problem is the Equip Weight is a bit too low but I'm working on it. Have Blueblood Sword, Purple Flame Shield +8 and Lava Bow. Only thing I have to figure out is whether it's worth it to use up Stones of Ephemeral Eyes to turn a world tendency from Pure White to Pure Black on Worlds 2 (Stone Farming) and 4 (Soul Farming).  | 2011-01-16 09:38:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| Oh come on guys, bossess aren't that difficult, and you don't need to hide and cheap-kill them, they're all extremely easy (SPECIALLY Flamelurker) with the Magic arrow or whatever (the blue magic ray, haven't played in a while, so I forgot.) or its stronger version you can get by giving Freke the Idol's soul. Get that, a bunch of spices, and you're basically set to fight any boss. ![]()  | 2011-01-16 10:15:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707  | 
| Well seeing as with my character, Flamelurker on NG+ can 2-hit-kill me (even with purple flame shield +8, water veil and warding)... I really wouldn't call it easy. He knocks me down with one attack and then hits me again before I can recover. That being said some bosses are very easy (especially if you fight them ranged... like Adjudicator and Leechmonger), but the fast ones you have to go head to head with (Flamelurker, Maneater, Old King Allant) definitely aren't easy. The soul ray spell you're talking about took about 30-40 or more hits to kill Flamelurker. | 2011-01-16 11:33:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| I have never fought flamelurker at range because my character really wasn't suited for it. He is very difficult to kill if you only use melee. | 2011-01-16 11:50:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| I always stand in place where he can't get thanks to a bug.  Still haven't beaten the game. Don't think I ever will. I prefer starting over again with a new character every now and then. ![]()  | 2011-01-16 12:25:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193  | 
| Honestly I'd say the level design of the first part of each world is better than the rest (though I really like 3-2). I love all the little short cuts and how they have been designed so that once you reach the first boss the first time, you'll be able to get back to the boss within 3/4 minutes if you know your way around. Leechmonger I guess is the exception. God I hate world 5... it's so **** inhospitable! That being said, the game is well worth finishing. The bosses are all really enjoyable (though I found Old King Allant pretty tough) and I really liked the ending. It was pretty epic and memorable. I found that you have to get fairly into the game though, looking up skills, weapons and armour so you know what to put points into. It's not really a game that is hospitable to players who randomly allocate skill points.  | 2011-01-16 12:47:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
My character feels hopelessly pathetic somehow   I'm mostly centering around magic, I'll need to load the gmae up sometime and see what the stats  are | 2011-01-16 13:30:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| thieves ring poison cloud (remove any HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR ALL/unless you have some with effects to boost magic)....yes you will need to remove unnecessary equipment to run fast once you enter the gate wait for him to charge(which is probably instantly)...once you see him about to charge run like hell RIGHT NEXT TO THE STAIRCASE IN THE SHADOWS since you have the thieves ring and you're in the shadows the flamelurker will assume you died...so he'll return back to his regular position I did that on old king doran, i think thats what he's called anyway. The turquoise guy in 1-1.  | 2011-01-16 14:29:00 Author: Asbestos101 Posts: 1114  | 
| For God's sake... just realised Ostrava must be dead again. He's not in the Nexus and he's not in 1-2. And I STILL don't have the mausoleum key! ARGH! EDIT: OK as soon as NG++ starts, Ostrava is GOING DOWN!!! If he's gonna get killed he may as well get killed by me!  | 2011-01-16 16:17:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| I missed a lot of the tendency events... are there any items you specifically need full W / B tendency to get? | 2011-01-16 19:20:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I missed a lot of the tendency events... are there any items you specifically need full W / B tendency to get? Well Primeval Demons only show up in BT. Ah there's too many to name, here ya go: http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/white-world-tendency-events http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/black-world-tendency-events You find more unique stuff in WT but item drops happen much more often in BT and there are a load of black phantoms added.  | 2011-01-16 19:36:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| I missed a lot of the tendency events... are there any items you specifically need full W / B tendency to get? yeah these's a couple weapons & rings & such you need pure white or black & also white character tendency to get. the best demon's souls sit is the site the guy posted above the demon's souls wiki site, it has everything.  | 2011-01-16 23:18:00 Author: IAmChavez Posts: 142  | 
| For anyone who hasn't picked it up yet and lives in the US, you can pick it up for $15 on newegg.com http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879225033&cm_re=souls-_-79-225-033-_-Product Pretty sure it's a limited time offer.  | 2011-01-17 13:25:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| Any tips on aiming magic better without the auto aim? For me I have to fire 2 or 3 soul rays before I can home in on my target. | 2011-01-17 13:30:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278  | 
| I'm going to turn it on and have a look now but maybe zoom-aim with a bow and then unzoom and switch to a catalyst? EDIT: Nope doesn't work. OK well the only think I can do that works ok is make sure the camera is centred behind you (use R3, only the X-axis will centre, not the Y-axis) and your character will shoot in the direction that they're facing. The Y-axis is more tricky, it seems that there a pretty big area on the Y-axis where the character will just shoot horizontally. I honestly don't know if there's a better way to free-aim spells...  | 2011-01-17 13:43:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| I love demon souls, its hard but good once you get the hang of it, My character build is so random XD. I havent played it much though of course now with LBP2 and all =P. | 2011-01-20 19:22:00 Author: Bloo_boy Posts: 1019  | 
| I've died and have nowhere to go, am I missing something? or is this the worst game ever? | 2011-01-22 18:34:00 Author: lifeiscrapislife Posts: 396  | 
| Did you just start playing and you died against vanguard? Go to the first archstone and start 1-1 | 2011-01-22 18:42:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| Did you just start playing and you died against vanguard? I don't know who that is but I have just started playing. Go to the first archstone and start 1-1 Thanks that worked.  | 2011-01-22 19:19:00 Author: lifeiscrapislife Posts: 396  | 
| If your starting now, whatever you do, dont sell the Flamelurkers soul...or depends what your build is. Btw in case your wondering there a wiki dedicated to Demon Souls and so much more, hope that helps you out. | 2011-01-22 20:59:00 Author: Bloo_boy Posts: 1019  | 
| is this the worst game ever? by this question alone I can tell you're going to die a lot, get lost a lot, and ragequit a lot...so for you? yes it's the worst game ever  | 2011-01-22 21:24:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| by this question alone I can tell you're going to die a lot, get lost a lot, and ragequit a lot...so for you? yes it's the worst game ever Little bit harsh. The game really doesn't hold your hand and that can be hard to get used to. Without the advice of others I would have had no idea where to go, what to do and how the game works overall. My advice is to stick with it, it's an extremely satisfying, rewarding gaming experience. Also the game gets a little easier after defeating the first boss (you can start to level up). After defeating each boss go to the sword-in-stone that appears, receive your prize and return to the nexus. Then talk to everyone and figure out who everyone is and what role they play. DON'T attack ANYONE in the nexus. If you attack them they won't let you use their services the entire game, it's just as bad as killing them. Feel free to ask for more advice. I'm not too far from finishing NG+. God Maneater is so easy with firestorm!  | 2011-01-22 22:24:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| Little bit harsh. not harsh just stating facts...everyone who plays demon's souls will die many times...but him suggesting its the worst game ever just because he got a little lost basically tells he won't enjoy the game and id rather have gamers who actually ENJOY the game just the way it is then people rage quitting because they get a little lost and such :/  | 2011-01-22 22:49:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365  | 
| not harsh just stating facts...everyone who plays demon's souls will die many times...but him suggesting its the worst game ever just because he got a little lost basically tells he won't enjoy the game and id rather have gamers who actually ENJOY the game just the way it is then people rage quitting because they get a little lost and such :/ Agree, you know its funny...they could make a forum for how many times people have died in demon souls XD. Id join lol, but the thing is everyones different, I died a couple of times with bosses and monsters but I died most falling and crap especially on the 5th.  | 2011-01-23 21:00:00 Author: Bloo_boy Posts: 1019  | 
| Finished New Game++ and started New Game+++. Made a few stupid mistakes and ended up losing about 300,000 souls due to carelessness. Ah well that's how it goes. Tried to kill a few black phantoms (trying to get the Friend Ring) but they annihilated me. Think I'll end up getting Black World Tendency in all the worlds and killing the NPC Black Phantoms to increase my character tendency. I'm soul level 148 and my character is grand for the game but terrible for PVP. Too well balanced, not enough specialisation. Shouldn't be too long until the platinum. One more playthrough should do it. Need to finish worlds 2 (Dragon Bone Smasher), 4 (Yellow DS for a spell), 5 (Pureblood DS for a spell). Also need to kill Selen Vinland BP... that's probably going to be tough. And then finish off the weapon upgrades (I'm pretty close for most of them already). **** it's a tough platinum. Fun though! And then to start a new game ![]() ![]()  !EDIT: Killed 2 BPs and have my friend ring and gold trophy  . I was also told about the Mode of Conduct for fighting PVP. I was oblivious to them before now, used to always jump the BPs. I know better now. Bow, then buff (warding, light sword etc.), then fight. Use 3 grasses max. Myt have a go later once I start farming Ephemeral Stones, I'm running a bit low and may need them to change the WT to black for stone farming. | 2011-02-01 01:23:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| by this question alone I can tell you're going to die a lot, get lost a lot, and ragequit a lot...so for you? yes it's the worst game ever Not necessarily, I got lost at that same spot because I skipped all the cutscenes, I had to go online to find out where to go. I found the game to be rather easy, the first time through anyway, NG+ can be a bit of a ***** at times.  | 2011-02-02 06:37:00 Author: DeathJohnson Posts: 57  | 
| i wish i could get this, but for the past three days there has been a nice 2 inches of ice around everything! so i hope playstation might put it up for download, but game looks incredible i know it's old, but still looks awesome i love RPG's and i love a challenge. (Oh and i heard rumors o a sequel titled Dark Souls!) | 2011-02-02 13:34:00 Author: Frank-the-Bunny Posts: 1246  | 
| Dark souls isn't rumours. Its hardcore fact, demon's souls with an open world. Sounds good but only time will tell how the open world structure will affect the game. | 2011-02-02 16:20:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662  | 
| The game is currently ?13.99/?17.49 on play.com: http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/15884378/Demon-Souls/Product.html?cur=257 Just for anyone who hasn't picked it up yet. It is easily one of the best games I have ever played.  | 2011-04-22 13:53:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| ^Cool. Are the EU servers still populated? I have the chinese version so I'm locked on chinese/korean/japanese servers. I'm also kinda curious to know what the EU online population is like because on the EA servers at least people bow and stuff before duelling. >_>  | 2011-04-22 17:04:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
| Yup the EU servers are still going. And yes, sometimes you get people who rush in and attack straight off (as I did in the beginning, I found out later that you're not supposed to do that). But many of them bowed which leads me to believe that many of them do abide by the rules of fair combat  . I think its a 3 grass maximum in general too. | 2011-04-23 02:33:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
Wow with all this talk about Atlus closing down the Demon's Souls servers some day, I'm glad the servers are actually still up! I used to play this game all of the time before LBP2 came out. I haven't touched it in a long time, but this video game is definitely on my list of absolute favorites (in fact, I was crazy enough to use this game as a stress reliever).    I had the benefit of the Demon's Souls Wiki by my side, but I usually tried to figure out how to defeat enemies and bosses on my own (very rewarding experience!). I find it to be very easy once I learned the enemies' patterns, but I suffered terribly from PvP fights. :/ Because of that I usually played offline unless I was trying to help out a friend.I started out as a magic person, but I didn't realize that I would be able to experience the game in a completely different way if I had chosen to be a melee person until some time last year. Great replay value, for sure! In fact as of right now, I'm doing a survival run through the game and limiting myself to stay away from magic and miracles, level myself up no higher than Soul Level 9, and complete NG and NG+.   I'm doing pretty great so far despite my low Soul Level! | 2011-04-23 03:48:00 Author: Qrii_Nakari Posts: 204  | 
| K here's the bottom line on Demons Souls,  I know Cuz i beat the game and am level 712 (Highest Level) Its a AMAZING game if you devote Skill into it and never give up. The player system is great, blue phantoms help while red invade at any time if youre in body form and try to kill you for you souls. The bosses are really fun and challenging, and you get a HUGE sense of accomplishment once you finish the area. All of the weapons upgrade in a beautiful way and always keep you thinking ahead. The game ISNT as hard as people say in my opinion, i think its only about tactics, and not running head first into battle. All in all Demons Souls IS BY FAR one of the best games i have ever played. Oh w8.............Pro Tip: KEEP YOUR FREAKIN' SHIELD UP 24/7! Hope this helped, -Jujupon PSN=Jujupon Does anyone here want to trade any rare dlc for something? Ill help u or whatever, just name your price............im good with logic fyi. I mean unused dlc codes, NOT GAMESHARES.  | 2011-05-07 19:03:00 Author: Unknown User  | 
| K here's the bottom line on Demons Souls,  I know Cuz i beat the game and am level 712 (Highest Level) I hope you got there using the bug in the unpatched version where you can collect your own souls after dying over and over otherwise you're insane. You need, like, 8 million souls per level towards the end.  | 2011-05-07 23:46:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
| Actually, i beat the game like 40 times.....then started soulsucking, it took a while. | 2011-05-08 19:26:00 Author: Unknown User  | 
| Actually, i beat the game like 40 times.....then started soulsucking, it took a while. O_________________________________O How long did it take?  | 2011-05-08 23:11:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
| Actually, i beat the game like 40 times.....then started soulsucking, it took a while. Hahahaha, I guess my total hours clocked are nothing compared to yours. And I was into the game for a long time too! ![]() What surprises me even more is that there are still players invading each other around Soul Level 712.  | 2011-05-09 00:17:00 Author: Qrii_Nakari Posts: 204  | 
| Actually, i beat the game like 40 times.....then started soulsucking, it took a while. Wow... and I thought getting the platinum was hardcore...  | 2011-05-09 19:15:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| Well......I mean there are a few limited players, BUT ITS SO FUN TO FIGHT A FRIEND! Me and a Bud used to go crazy about whos a better mage. Good times......Good Times....... | 2011-05-10 02:41:00 Author: Unknown User  | 
| Look....Platinum requires HOURS OF FINDING stupid stones......skip the platinum if you want some real fun. | 2011-05-10 02:43:00 Author: Unknown User  | 
| Look....Platinum requires HOURS OF FINDING stupid stones......skip the platinum if you want some real fun. Hahaha, I agree. It took me a week to find ONE chunk of Bladestone. >< I'd advise against going after the platinum unless you're really dedicated or have nothing better to do. XD  | 2011-05-10 20:00:00 Author: Qrii_Nakari Posts: 204  | 
| Actually didn't find the stone collecting that bad. I almost had enough after getting all the other trophies on my third playthrough. A little farming but it wasn't that bad. Just about knowing where to look and making sure the worlds are at Black Tendency. | 2011-05-10 21:31:00 Author: Burrich Posts: 1018  | 
| What surprises me even more is that there are still players invading each other around Soul Level 712. On the EA servers at least there are unwritten agreed places (4-2 for sl712) to invade players. At that level people just use the red eye stone instead of black.  | 2011-05-11 01:33:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454  | 
| Never could get the Pure Bladestone...........stupid black dual katana skeleton hunters................... | 2011-05-11 03:51:00 Author: Unknown User  | 
| nevermind. | 2011-05-11 05:21:00 Author: IAmChavez Posts: 142  | 
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