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LBPC: The Game

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no. calenders just stop being produced... I think...2010-09-05 20:43:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135

Enough talk of 2012... we all already died last year, remember?2010-09-05 20:46:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

Except for the fact December 21, 2012 is my 18th birthday! No joke... Great...

Anyway, the minigame looks great! I'm very curious... 		2010-09-05 20:51:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

2012???? Rock, aren't we agree for 2013???
You are rude here with yours creators... 		2010-09-05 21:05:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

2012 in the mayan calendar wasn't about an end...but a new beginning...so yeah that whole 2012 us dying has been misinterpreted by non smarties lol

/thread

also the mini game confuses me with the rep system....care to explain?		2010-09-05 23:48:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

2012 in the mayan calendar wasn't about an end...but a new beginning...so yeah that whole 2012 us dying has been misinterpreted by non smarties lol

/thread

also the mini game confuses me with the rep system....care to explain?

Eh, sure, why not.

After every round, you gain a rep gem. Only it's the crowns that used to be rep (this level was actually made last November when we had those <_>). Anyway, once you get five rep gems, you can either use Thanks, which gives you a point bonus, or Negative Rep, which slaughters all enemies on screen.

Exp is what is used for the shop. You can purchase ammo (you only start with 40 ammo a shot, and the paintinator is aways off) and stuff, or new vantage points or point upgrades or stuff. Yeah. it's cool like that.		2010-09-05 23:52:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

It sounds very awesome, kinda like the wrecking ball survival, but with tons of new features.2010-09-06 00:37:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135

It's been said that in LittleBigPlanet 2, things will take much less time to create. I think that this LBPC: the Game project will be great. It will be sad when I've played all the levels. It's been said that in LittleBigPlanet 2, things will take much less time to create. Hint, hint.

Please don't kill me!		2010-09-06 02:29:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276

Negative Rep?
Slaughter all enemies on screen?		2010-09-06 17:11:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607

It's been said that in LittleBigPlanet 2, things will take much less time to create. I think that this LBPC: the Game project will be great. It will be sad when I've played all the levels. It's been said that in LittleBigPlanet 2, things will take much less time to create. Hint, hint.

Please don't kill me!

The problem isn't so much the fact that LBP is tough to create in that took so long as much as it was me getting my act together. Next time, I'd be sure to learn from my mistakes here

As for your not-really-subliminal message of my making LBPC: TG2... I'd be lying if I said the thought hadn't crossed my mind. Before LBP2 I'd have said no way, but LBP2 is just so different. I really would like to make LBPC: TG2, to be quite honest with you. However, considering how long this one has been in production, I'm probably insane for thinking so. Something also tells me I'd need a completely new team because I think most of my LBPC: TG team is tired of the game, and those working on it probably want to get back to their own projects after some worked over a year exclusively on this

There's also the problem with me being a writer at heart. I have this story/ series I REALLY want to tell, and LBP would be perfect... if I can magically get creative powers/ can repeat the LBPCTG miracle. I really don't know how logical it would be to make two separate projects at once, both of which I'm in charge yet can't really do anything by myself :/.

So there's that fact. I kinda am more interested in making my serious story then another parody thing filled with as many jokes as we can squeeze in, since I am really a story guy. Plus the whole insane factor of, when I'm FINALLY done this, I'd just do it again >_<

But I am kinda leaving it open to a sequel... while LBPCTG isn't really story based and so could just have pretty much any reason to do anything, I have formulated a way to throw a sneak preview at a possible LBPCTG2 at you. If there never is an LBPCTG2, then, well, it works well enough on its own.

Putting aside LBPCTG2 for a moment, LBPCTG. I missed my deadline of before I get back to school. How typical . Unless we finish in the next six hours >_>.

At any rate, yeah... Um... ... /runs		2010-09-06 19:43:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Something also tells me I'd need a completely new team because I think most of my LBPC: TG team is tired of the game, and those working on it probably want to get back to their own projects after some worked over a year exclusively on this

Don't worry, LBP's Top creator (me) is here 		2010-09-06 19:56:00

Author:
Unknown User

@Rock: Even if you aren't the one who does LBPC: The Game 2, the members here will see how great it is and I'm almost 100% sure that someone will want to pick it up and take the opportunity.

Also, that minigame sounds incredibly great! Full of strategy and brain powah! Perfect for me 		2010-09-06 20:08:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Hmmm... LBPc the game 2???
Why not! 		2010-09-06 20:15:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Hmmm... LBPc the game 2???
Why not!

Oh, you're crazy too? I thought you'd want to work on some of your own projects... then again, you said the last thing last november and have made two levels and a two part minigame since then, so :/ Still, if it come into existence, you don't need to ask twice about helping XD

Hm, maybe it'd be best to at least wait a little bit so everyone can get used to the new tools... or maybe not, I unno. We could still plan it out and stuff. Then again we also could do that between Beta and Release. I unno. Don't hit me. D:

But at any rate, we need to just finish this behemoth off before getting started on another one 		2010-09-06 20:22:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

I'd be mildly interested in joining if it comes to fruition, I guess.2010-09-06 20:27:00

Author:
Unknown User

once i get my new ps3 i'll play the levels but first the story mode and dlc xD2010-09-06 20:30:00

Author:
BlackThornDust
Posts: 100

I'd love to help write/head LBPC:TG2.

I love writing 		2010-09-06 20:42:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Oh, you're crazy too? I thought you'd want to work on some of your own projects... then again, you said the last thing last november and have made two levels and a two part minigame since then, so :/ Still, if it come into existence, you don't need to ask twice about helping XD

Hm, maybe it'd be best to at least wait a little bit so everyone can get used to the new tools... or maybe not, I unno. We could still plan it out and stuff. Then again we also could do that between Beta and Release. I unno. Don't hit me. D:

But at any rate, we need to just finish this behemoth off before getting started on another one

Yeah, I'd suggest waiting a month or two, or at least until you can find the highly skilled creators in LBP2. The very best creators may (or may not) be different than the ones we have now. You never know who could burst onto the scene.

/Back on topic		2010-09-06 20:56:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Rock, I'd love to work with you again on a new project. But you're right, in a way - I'm rather tired with dealing with things I've already dealt with. :B

But, yeah, I'm up for LBPCTG2 or your original project thing.		2010-09-06 21:41:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

I'd be mildly interested in joining if it comes to fruition, I guess.

Mildly interested, you guess? Why, just the enthusiasm I was looking for! You're hired :arg:


once i get my new ps3 i'll play the levels but first the story mode and dlc xD

Hopefully we'll be out by then D: lol


I'd love to help write/head LBPC:TG2.

I love writing

As do I. However, to be quite frank, at least in LBPC:TG1 (Oh look, I'm already calling it 1 >_<), there wasn't much writing to be done. It was fun, yeah, but I just made a few jokes and tried to tie the story somewhat coherently :/. Then there were the few levels I wrote the dialogue for cause the level creator's english isn't perfect... you'll probably be able to tell which, every single text bubble was practically a story in itself ,_, Where was I? Oh yeah. Not sure I'd need a writer for this. I unno. Which brings me to my next reply...


Rock, I'd love to work with you again on a new project. But you're right, in a way - I'm rather tired with dealing with things I've already dealt with. :B

But, yeah, I'm up for LBPCTG2 or your original project thing.

Hm, well, I guess everyone who was on LBPCTG could join in this (theoretical, I assure you) project... except Spooky and KoRn. they'd need to return to do that. And I probably wouldn't rehire KoRn anyway since he didn't even finish that one level he was assigned :/

If it did come to fruition, then I'd probably hold signups, and returning crew members would help me decide who to pick. If it were to happen. I'm totally not planning it right now.

I totally want it out now. Seriously. Right now. :kz;

At any rate... school D:. Noooooooo... I missed my deadline 		2010-09-07 02:25:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Mildly interested, you guess? Why, just the enthusiasm I was looking for! You're hired :arg:

woot 		2010-09-07 04:14:00

Author:
Unknown User

I'd definitely be interested in helping out with LBPC:TG2, especially seeing as I feel i'm getting considerably better as a creator. Still not good, but better xD2010-09-07 18:04:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

Wow, I was not aware Rock was already taking sign ups for LBPC:TG 2, oh that's right he isn't.

If I were you everyone, I'd wait until Rock actually decides what's happening and if he needs any more people, otherwise you'll be ignored, after all talking about LBPC:TG 2 is technically off topic because this thread is for LBPC:TG1.

2010-09-07 18:12:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me

*Copy and paste X9000* 		2010-09-07 18:36:00

Author:
Jovuto
Posts: 2345

Wow, I was not aware Rock was already taking sign ups for LBPC:TG 2, oh that's right he isn't.

If I were you everyone, I'd wait until Rock actually decides what's happening and if he needs any more people, otherwise you'll be ignored, after all talking about LBPC:TG 2 is technically off topic because this thread is for LBPC:TG1.



I think it was more all of us trying to hint towards it being made, but fair point nevertheless 		2010-09-07 18:39:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

Rock, don't think of it as a deadline, think of it as an:
Oh well, at least we are nearly there now - line

The minigame you described sounds brilliant!
Can wait for it all, but that's only because I have to 		2010-09-07 18:56:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518

Don't worry, LBP's Top creator (me) is here


...because I'm laughing. AND, you're winking...

Just read your Candlepants reunion thread er, sorry:hrmf: your level showcase thread... all I can say is "What a relief!" I was really worried LBPTG2 might fall into the wrong hands...

(So after all that-- is 'Flipper-Frenzy' any good?)		2010-09-07 19:47:00

Author:
Gravel
Posts: 1308

Wouldn't you guys rather work on your own original projects? I know I have a MASSIVE list of ideas that i want to come to fruition but quite honestly i don't think I can make all of MY own projects. If I didn't however I would say, "ZOMG I WANT TO BE ON TEH CREATE TEAM FOR TEH LBPC TEH GAMEZ TWO!!"2010-09-08 01:10:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

RockSauron, you said you liked stories? How about- LBPC: RPG. It has a nice little ring to it, don't you think? And with all the new elements in LBP2... I think it would be possible. Just a suggestion.
After all, there is no deadline, and since this second game would be totally new and all about the new mechanics, maybe your old team wouldn't be quite so bored?

I mean, it wouldn't just be a story... it would be a LittleBigPlanet EPIC! 		2010-09-08 01:25:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276

RockSauron, you said you liked stories? How about- LBPC: RPG. It has a little ring to it, don't you think. And with all the new elements in LBP2... I think it would be possible. Just a suggestion.
After all, there is no deadline, and since this second game would be totally new and all about the new mechanics, maybe your old team wouldn't be quite so bored?

I mean, it wouldn't just be a story... it would be a LittleBigPlanet EPIC!

The problem is, when I say stories, I mean serious stories. Now, I would love to do that- actually, I first tried making an LBPC RPG in October 08 (I like thinking back to that as when I grossly underestimated LBP's creative capabilities) in RPG Maker, and having all sorts of creative gags would be fun. If there's one thing I like more then writing complicated serious stories, it's pumping as many gags related to other stuff in as possible.

However, I gotta be realistic, and I probably can't manage two projects at once- or rather I COULD, but people would get mad and stuff since I'm focusing on two things (plus I'd be dependent on everyone else again, so ;-

But yeah, LBPCTG.

Takelow has his new ps3 for six more days... in those six days he has to finish Boss rush parts 1 and 2... and then probably miss the release in all likelihood

Burnvictim is still making level 13, he is almost done the boss, at which point filling in the entrance/ exit should be fairly simple...

Joey doesn't seem like he can fix level 5 fast enough, so I'm hoping SLS10 can do that instead.

The problem, really, are levels 9a and 9b. Lady and Rick are working on them, and I haven't heard anything from either of them for about a week or so now. They tend to work offline so I can't bother them or see when they're working. It seems they are almost done, but I haven't seen them recently, so I hope we'll see them soon and the level will be done :/		2010-09-08 01:36:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Writing serious stories? Well, in that case, I would think LBP is not the best medium for that. However, you could simply write down all your stories as books or something, then make levels base levels on your stories in LBP in your spare time? That way, you could write seriously and still make levels. Just a suggestion.

I'm sorry; I think I kind of derailed this thread when I hinted at making a sequel earlier.
Please don't kill me!

EDIT: This was a quite stupid thing to say. Of course, by writing, I literally meant "writing", not creating. I'm sorry that wasn't very clear.		2010-09-08 01:42:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276

Writing serious stories? Well, in that case, I would think LBP is not the best medium for that. However, you could simply write down all your stories as books or something, then make levels base levels on your stories in LBP in your spare time? That way, you could write seriously and still make levels. Just a suggestion.

How is LBP not the best medium? Can it not have epic stories just because it isn't marketed as such? Should the creators be limited by marketing? Plus my stories aren't THAT "serious"... >_<

And I can't build at all. And I want to make an RPG. An epic one. I have it all planned out. It would rawk. Just because the front case features fuzzy characters doesn't mean that everyone who plays that game HAS to be all cute and cuddly and can't make stories beyond generic "save the day" video game stories. That ruins the entire creative aspect if we are forced to sugarcoat stories >_<		2010-09-08 01:47:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Writing serious stories? Well, in that case, I would think LBP is not the best medium for that. [/COLOR]

i think Delirium would like to have a word with you

also no offense but i always despise hearing people say this...this is the sort of mentality that has possible LBP gamers turned off to play it at all...just because it looks like a kids game doesnt mean it should be treated as such

its already been proven with lots of our great creators that serious storylines can make great levels...and in a game that is a platform for games now...it should be the medium for anything you can imagine		2010-09-08 01:54:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

LBP has the fewest limits of just about every other console game out there. Is there a better medium? 2010-09-08 02:03:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

LBP has the fewest limits of just about every other console game out there. Is there a better medium?
Real game design.

Of course if you're just looking for console games...then you're stuck with LBP...for now...		2010-09-08 02:15:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193

Real game design.

Of course if you're just looking for console games...then you're stuck with LBP...for now...

But isn't LBP2 a platform for games? Essentially, dare I say it, game design? (Just being witty)

Excuse my off-topicness... No more... :blush:		2010-09-08 02:21:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

so uh... do you people think the project will be finished within the next week?2010-09-08 02:25:00

Author:
Arctos13
Posts: 258

We, the "consumers" if you will, never ever do know.

It's kind of like a video game sale for a game you want badly; you know it will happen, you don't know when, but it usually feels longer than you want it to. 		2010-09-08 02:28:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

so uh... do you people think the project will be finished within the next week?

I'd say that'd depend entirely on Lady and Rick.... everything else could potentially be done by then, but I haven't seen either of them for a while so :/ I'm hoping it's almost done in secret though ;-;		2010-09-08 02:28:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

good news everyone! Lbpctg will be finished by this thursday so expect it friday afternoon!
what!? Amaazing!! This is spectacular!!		2010-09-08 03:00:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

what!? Amaazing!! This is spectacular!!

This won't go well with the people that don't like these kinds of jokes...		2010-09-08 03:04:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

what!? Amaazing!! This is spectacular!!

Next time spell the name right...
I don't find it very funny either...
So uhh yeah...
World project... (It's like a big snack for the LBP community)
Never mind...
So yeah, looking out for this...
BTW: 13 levels, 4 minis, 2 boss rushes, 1 Final Boss, and a credits/Vault level... All together 21... just saying.
'Cause with the 20 levels per account, I'm curious how you guys are doin' it.

Oki/		2010-09-08 15:43:00

Author:
Okisaan
Posts: 165

they mentioned a few pages back ( If I remember correctly) Rock said something about a separate account for the mini-games2010-09-08 19:42:00

Author:
bs58qw
Posts: 59

what!? Amaazing!! This is spectacular!!

U lied ;-;

YOU MUST BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL		2010-09-08 20:04:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872

Next time spell the name right...
I don't find it very funny either...
So uhh yeah...
World project... (It's like a big snack for the LBP community)
Never mind...
So yeah, looking out for this...
BTW: 13 levels, 4 minis, 2 boss rushes, 1 Final Boss, and a credits/Vault level... All together 21... just saying.
'Cause with the 20 levels per account, I'm curious how you guys are doin' it.

Oki/
Hey Genius I did spell it right....
Plus its just a joke calm down. Stop having a stick up your rear end people!		2010-09-08 23:31:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Exactly, everybodies so uptight. Chill.2010-09-09 03:12:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Writing serious stories? Well, in that case, I would think LBP is not the best medium for that. However, you could simply write down all your stories as books or something, then make levels base levels on your stories in LBP in your spare time? That way, you could write seriously and still make levels. Just a suggestion.

I'm sorry; I think I kind of derailed this thread when I hinted at making a sequel earlier.
Please don't kill me!


Next time spell the name right...
I don't find it very funny either...
So uhh yeah...
World project... (It's like a big snack for the LBP community)
Never mind...
So yeah, looking out for this...
BTW: 13 levels, 4 minis, 2 boss rushes, 1 Final Boss, and a credits/Vault level... All together 21... just saying.
'Cause with the 20 levels per account, I'm curious how you guys are doin' it.

Oki/


Hey Genius I did spell it right....
Plus its just a joke calm down. Stop having a stick up your rear end people!

You're all dumb.

Not you Rock, you're lovely. <3		2010-09-09 04:20:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

I have been waiting patiently waiting for this to be finished...and I can't stop eating peanuts!!!
Curse you patient peanuts!!!		2010-09-09 16:10:00

Author:
theonlybub
Posts: 690

finished yet?
this was a JOKE. A JOKE. there is no need to write long paragraphs replying to me about how i'm being annoying and what not. if you cannot handle a joke then go sit in the corner. thanks 		2010-09-10 17:39:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872

Not yet, but soon 2010-09-11 00:07:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Not yet, but soon

I hate that word.		2010-09-11 00:24:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

ommgg wheen 2010-09-11 05:19:00

Author:
nowblink
Posts: 105

I'm going to write this towards everyone who's beckoning for this to come out.

We're working hard. We truly are. (Not so much myself, but the point remains.) Why are we still working? Because we want to make this series the best experience it can possibly be. We're ironing out every bug, refining every element so that you, the consumer, are truly happy and satisfied with what we offer to you.

I've watched this project grow before I was given the honor and privilege of helping to further it. I've witnessed the drama unfold, among the community and our own crew. And, I will admit, I can't wait for this experience to be unleashed unto the community. It will be LBP1's swan song.

If you don't know what a swan song is, look it up. You child. :B

What I'm trying to say, basically, is that, for the sake of quality and true remarkability, we need time. It isn't a matter of when it comes out - it's a matter of how good it is when it comes out.		2010-09-11 19:54:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

As for progress...

I've pretty much done everything I can by myself. I've finalized contests, wrote everything up, all that. Now all that needs doing is dependent on other people.

For rick and lady, I spoke to them and they said that level 9a and 9b are finishing up, and should be done by Sunday. Or Monday if Sunday is not reached.

For burn, he is working on level 13. I'm not too sure about how much time that'll take.

As for Takelow, as some of you may know he had the YLOD a while back. He borrowed his friend's PS3 to finish up Boss Rush, but it was only temp. However, Takelow allowed his friend to borrow his 360 and bought him Alan Wake, so he now has an extra 2 or so weeks to finish his part up. The Boss Rush is mostly done, there are just a bunch of bugs and little annoying things to fix.

jww is taking a bunch of HD photos for every level... He's about halfway done, and has more but his desktop computer crashed or something. So I guess he'd need to fix that before doing that...

Other then that, I just need a few sticker logos for various levels, for Joey to send me the key to new level 4 (if anyone is playing with him, please tell him to send LBPCSeries the level 4 key ;-... And... well, not much else to be honest. :/ Not much I can do by myself (other then publishing), but it should be almost good. We'll see D:		2010-09-11 20:19:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Can't wait!2010-09-11 20:32:00

Author:
Nana997
Posts: 197

Can't wait!

Be prepared to. :B		2010-09-11 20:41:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

The fact that I could be playing this within the coming fortnight makes me drop with excitement. 2010-09-11 21:42:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

Just about the best update I've heard so far! 2010-09-11 21:46:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Awesome sauce!
Couldn't be more impressed at the sheer determination to get this perfect, you are all truly LBPatriots 		2010-09-12 00:28:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

I'd never thought about it that way, but you're right. This will be THE swan song of LBP1.2010-09-12 03:05:00

Author:
Arctos13
Posts: 258

ok, lets make this interesting shall we? who wants to bet xp on when this thing is going to come out? or for Rock, bet peanuts.2010-09-12 03:54:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135

If rock doesn't finish the game within 2 weeks, like he promised almost 2 weeks ago, he owes me half his xp.

Like that?		2010-09-12 04:12:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

^^ Sorry for the off-topic. Mercury's sig.

Binding and Penetrating with Force and Duct tape... No wonder they made Ol' Ben live alone on the out-skirts of the Dune Sea.
2010-09-12 04:18:00

Author:
Gravel
Posts: 1308

If rock doesn't finish the game within 2 weeks, like he promised almost 2 weeks ago, he owes me half his xp.

Like that?

And he owes me the other half!! 		2010-09-12 15:52:00

Author:
X-FROGBOY-X
Posts: 1800

Rock, give each member who has posted on this thread 10 xp per DAY you postpone the release date 2010-09-12 16:42:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872

Rock, give each member who has posted on this thread 10 xp per DAY you postpone the release date

Well, I never gave a release date, so you have no way of obtaining said xp, now do you? :kz:		2010-09-12 16:47:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Rock, give each member who has posted on this thread 10 xp per DAY you postpone the release date

How about 10xp times the number of posts they have in the thread per day after next week 		2010-09-12 16:48:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

Well, I never gave a release date, so you have no way of obtaining said xp, now do you? :kz:
how about you give me xp for being lovely?		2010-09-12 16:49:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872

10xp for every millisecond that it isn't out yet! >:32010-09-12 17:04:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

how about you give me xp for being lovely?


Well you have no way of obtaining xp now, do you? :kz:



Had to be done. 		2010-09-12 17:20:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Ok, screw what I said before about not playing LBP1 again, I will when this comes out 2010-09-12 17:41:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Srry to be off topic, but why in the hell is spaff's face on everything!?2010-09-12 18:16:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

And he owes me the other half!!

Then you owe me the half of that :kz:		2010-09-12 18:20:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Srry to be off topic, but why in the hell is spaff's face on everything!?
You don't know???

http://amsterdambabies.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Dramatic_Faces.gif
https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=35162-Spaff-Appreciation-Day-2010		2010-09-12 18:22:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

I don't know either2010-09-12 18:44:00

Author:
Nana997
Posts: 197

I don't know either

CHeck the link gdn just posted... -_-		2010-09-12 18:48:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

It is the Spaff appreciation day of course!2010-09-12 18:54:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Ah-ha! Now it makes sense. But really, when's the game coming out? Anticipation is like a hungry mouth, and I'm a tasty prime rib (which is, of course, what Anticipation loves to eat).2010-09-12 19:30:00

Author:
Nana997
Posts: 197

I found out after posting that by searching lol2010-09-13 00:42:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Hi everyone. Level 9B is published and in the midst of beta testing and some minor tweaks. Lady and I are now focused on Level 9A, which will be completed in a couple of days. Thanks for being patient .

Rick		2010-09-15 02:51:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Hi everyone. Level 9B is published and in the midst of beta testing and some minor tweaks. Lady and I are now focused on Level 9A, which will be completed in a couple of days. Thanks for being patient .

Rick

published?		2010-09-15 20:18:00

Author:
Unknown User

published?

Published LOCKED. So only people who are involved in LBPC:TG or Moderators here can access it. I assume so anyway, it'd be weird for the game to be released without any mention on the homepage/notification thingy majig that appears at the top of the page sometimes.		2010-09-15 20:22:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

published?

Well obviously not for you guys

And as for mods being able to play it, they could in theory but none of them do, and since release is so close they'll probably wait until it's all ready and stuff. So yeah, for now just the team (which at the moment is really just four or five people who are still doing anything) and jww (since he's our picture guy) are going to see them...

So yeah, CC is more clueless then all you guys Though if he wanted to know he could, it's just that, well, it's my project so I oversee everything and he gets the free publicity for his forum :kz:

... But obviously not ready yet .

A while ago, we had an image of the logo that Zwollie made, but when he left it was deleted, but I managed to get a copy from Leather since he used it for the trailer, but it's too big so I think CC is going to make a smaller version of the logo for the announcement... But trust me, when this is out, you'll know 		2010-09-15 20:34:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Yaaay, it's getting closer by every second 2010-09-15 20:50:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

*wets self in excitement*

Oops... I umm... Spilled my coffee..

<_<
>_>		2010-09-16 19:26:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

I think I'm still able to access the levels, no? Or did you change the code or something? Anyway, even though I probably can, I haven't. Can't wait to see how everything looks now!

Round of applause to everyone for getting this far! 		2010-09-16 20:04:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

*wets self in excitement*

Oops... I umm... Spilled my coffee..

<_<
>_>

Woah, you wet yourself and it looks like COFFEE???!!!
Go see a doctor!

BTW, seeing that you are most likely be releasing the beast in 2 weeks makes me feel really good as we are trying to release another Project before you, as people most likely be like; "This was it..." after playing LBPC:TG, and take their copy out of the PS3... O_o

Anyways, can't wait...		2010-09-16 21:30:00

Author:
Okisaan
Posts: 165

Awesome looks great cant wait till there out!2010-09-16 22:33:00

Author:
WCF7__
Posts: 63

is spaff in it?2010-09-17 15:32:00

Author:
Unknown User

When is teh release gonza come!
PS. does teh game have teh real waterz?		2010-09-18 00:03:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

When is teh release gonza come!
PS. does teh game have teh real waterz?

No, but it has teh fake waterz

... It'll probably be the only level in a year to use fake glass water . Cause level 7 was made before POTC... yeah, this has been in the works forever <_>

Ok, shouldn't say no, there is water, just not in the water level... XD		2010-09-18 00:08:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

I think levels look better with fake water sometimes. That is when swimming is not involved... 2010-09-18 00:15:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Swimming is exactly the reason why we didn't changed the level with real water. It would totally ruin the level previously made in term of gameplay and of level design.
It is why we choose to keep it as it was initially, with fake water.		2010-09-18 00:24:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Can I haz LBPCTG Beta codez??

And there will still be water, just not in the water level?
Oh my.		2010-09-18 00:48:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607

Can I haz LBPCTG Beta codez??



Look above your avatar		2010-09-18 01:01:00

Author:
Unknown User

Look above your avatar

Nice one that actually made me lol		2010-09-18 01:54:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Well, Burn is ALMOST done with level 13... He should finish that by... SOON :kz:

I'd like to take this moment to beg you that, should you not find yourself in LBPC: The Game, to not form an angry mob and impale me on a stick.

I'd also like to take this moment to ask for someone... "excited"

Yep, another of those "contests" where I try to get someone for the game.

Basically, I need someone excited for the game to send me a pm. If you are not in the game yet, you will need to send me a cutout of your sackboy. This cutout should be "excited" so to speak. So yeah, first pm wins unless first pm is already in the game. SO GO FOO		2010-09-18 02:39:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

SUPER MEGA SPOILER

Level 12 has a very brief water section. As in, real water.

...That is all.		2010-09-18 02:44:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

Well, Burn is ALMOST done with level 13... He should finish that by... SOON


So we should pretty much be expecting this by October...

























...of 2011
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EgPcrnOHcjA/TEemwUsnlnI/AAAAAAAAA7c/DrCiAbkuyCM/s400/rageguy.jpg		2010-09-18 03:01:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

^lol
anyway, im so excited! cannot....be.......to......much.....longer....		2010-09-18 05:10:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117

Can't believe it's still not done.

I've been excited for it for so long that I don't remember how old I was when I began being excited about it.

Hopefully it'll be out before LBP2. ^^

Lol, just kidding about first 2 lines of pushyness.

Just stopped by to check how it's coming along. ^_~		2010-09-18 06:31:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

Oh it will be out before LBP2... one way or another :kz: There is less of a point in releasing it after LBP2. LBP2 adds so many new tools and features that the series would need a complete overhaul just to upgrade the things we already have!

But seriously, we all want it out ASAP... for various reasons. All we can say is... soon :kz:		2010-09-18 07:01:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322

About an hour ago I did the Level 9B repub with all the tweaks. The repub was delayed due to several issues, one of which I'll share as I have never seen this before. First, the thermo is right at the Max and I used the thermo glitch to pack in some extra stuff (maybe that caused this). Anyway, I added some motor bolts to some logic wheels I created for additional magic mouths and a new section towards the end of the level to accommodate a timing sequence for "some events". But none of these bolts was working correctly--I found some of the motor bolts actually reversed their direction (very strange), so I had to reverse the setting to make them work. Hopefully it doesn't correct itself.

Now working to get Level 9A done and published this weekend--it's very close...very close indeed .

Rick		2010-09-18 08:01:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Happy to heard this Rick!
Btw, i encounter the bolt bugs several time in my levels. It only happened to me when the thermo was near to be max and can also affect emmiters and pistons too. I always deleted the incriminated objects and recreate it in this case, since i already saw this effect disappear by itself for no evident reason. You must carefully check this Rick, since, you can trust me, strange bugs are never a good sign 		2010-09-18 08:57:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Happy to heard this Rick!
Btw, i encounter the bolt bugs several time in my levels. It only happened to me when the thermo was near to be max and can also affect emmiters and pistons too. I always deleted the incriminated objects and recreate it in this case, since i already saw this effect disappear by itself for no evident reason. You must carefully check this Rick, since, you can trust me, strange bugs are never a good sign

^ THIS

also BACK UP the LVL in a seperate file now...juuuuust in case...since anything can happen at this point		2010-09-18 09:02:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

SUPER MEGA SPOILER

Level 12 has a very brief water section. As in, real water.

Talking about level 12, i really need your help for what i am actually doing for the game...		2010-09-18 09:09:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Thanks for your suggestion Takelow. I did recreate these several times, but I now think the thermo glitch is the culprit, since I can't seem to fix it. I'll try several more beta tests online to look for strange occurences of it deciding to fix itself. If it does, I have another method I can use that might posibbly work, unless a piston decides to go in reverse as well....2010-09-18 16:42:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Say me Rock, is "soon" soon?

(just to keep people excited...)		2010-09-18 18:06:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Say me Rock, is "soon" soon?

(just to keep people excited...)

I certainly am excited...		2010-09-18 19:15:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

sooooo its still not done?2010-09-18 21:10:00

Author:
Xero Space
Posts: 249

sooooo its still not done?

It will be done soon, stop asking and let them create! You can't rush art, probably why I never finish a drawing
Erm... something on topic...
You guys rule!
Wait no...
I'm sure people we haven't heard from for a long time will pick up LBP again because of this.		2010-09-18 21:48:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518

For all intents and purposes, Boss Rush is done! Aside from making it copyable so I can have it but that'll be easy so w/e!

Which means... Takelow is now done with LBPC TG :O

Or at least creating, lol. He was the direct maker of 7 levels out of the 21, so yeah, I guess you could say he made a third of the game... but no matter what you say, he's been dedicated to this since day 1 (or just about day 1), and this project would not be anywhere near here if not for him, I'm betting. Yay three cheers for Takelow :kz: I SAID CHEER!

... lol. Ok, so... yeah, basically, I've done everything I can do... and so everything that's left is up to Rick, Lady and Burn to finish. ... I'll... need to get a hold with CC soon... yeah... :/		2010-09-19 15:48:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

HIP HIP, HOORAY!
Good job Takelow!		2010-09-19 16:32:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607

Thank you Rock for your kind words.

I will publish BR copyable in the next upcoming hours.
And yeah, 7 levels for this project!!! And certainly my best ones, i mean... i guess : . Basically, all i did in LBP these 14 last months was LBPctg-related... Ok besides a couple of hours in the LBP2 beta ...
Nevertheless, it was great to work with you Rock, and the all team. We certainly disagree a lot of times, but at the end, all is better than it will have been unless that.
I am anxious to see all this released now!

One thing is sure, working on such a project will miss I during my next LBP play sessions...		2010-09-19 16:32:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Yay for Takelow!

Boss rush sounds good. Could we have a last little little preview, Rock? Just to shake things up?

(^ Just trying)		2010-09-19 16:36:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

Yay for Takelow!

Boss rush sounds good. Could we have a last little little preview, Rock? Just to shake things up?

(^ Just trying)

Absolutely not.

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4904/s5adl.png		2010-09-19 16:39:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

:blush:

I knew it'd work!

Everyone, Rock's drunk! Ask him anything!		2010-09-19 16:44:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

Great news! Best thing I've heard all day...

That is a scary clown... 		2010-09-19 16:57:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Who could the clown be?

O_O		2010-09-19 17:00:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

That's me! Oh wait.. you mean the large one on the right. 2010-09-19 17:15:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

That clown is terrifying, and i'm not even afraid of clowns O.o
Anyway, I can't believe how close this is to finishing 		2010-09-19 18:46:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

It will be done soon, stop asking and let them create! You can't rush art, probably why I never finish a drawing
Erm... something on topic...
You guys rule!
Wait no...
I'm sure people we haven't heard from for a long time will pick up LBP again because of this.

i only asked once GAWSH!!!		2010-09-19 20:36:00

Author:
Xero Space
Posts: 249

That clown is terrifying, and i'm not even afraid of clowns O.o
Anyway, I can't believe how close this is to finishing

Imagine how I must feel. O-o lol		2010-09-19 20:37:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

*gasps for breath* I... *gasp* I.. Need.. *gasp*
I.. Need.. One.. More.. *gasp* Picture...
Please.. Rock... *gasp* I'm dying..It's the only thing that can.. *gasp* cure me...		2010-09-19 20:39:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Hurray!! Almost done!!! 2010-09-19 20:41:00

Author:
X-FROGBOY-X
Posts: 1800

*gasps for breath* I... *gasp* I.. Need.. *gasp*
I.. Need.. One.. More.. *gasp* Picture...
Please.. Rock... *gasp* I'm dying..It's the only thing that can.. *gasp* cure me...

You should know by now that I am an evil warlord, and as such, revel in death.

So die all you want =3		2010-09-19 20:41:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Oh! Looks like I'm magically cured!
The only thing that can kill me is a poisoned photo of LBPC: TG!
:O		2010-09-19 20:43:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Oh! Looks like I'm magically cured!
The only thing that can kill me is a poisoned photo of LBPC: TG!
:O

I'm also apathetic, so it doesn't really bother me that one miserable creature is alive.

Now stand down.

...

Yeah.

Everyone...

thank you :kz:		2010-09-19 20:45:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

*sniff*
I'm not miserable...

Just look at my signature.

and my avatar.		2010-09-19 20:47:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

My earlier post about serious stories and LBP? Burn it. That isn't what I meant anyway- I think LBP is great. It could just be that I suck so much at making stuff I never realized the potential...?

...Anyway, I'm really glad that this is almost finished. I think this is amazing- the biggest community project I've ever seen, in fact. I hope I didn't make myself look stupid.
:blush:
*runs away*		2010-09-19 20:52:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276

Oooo.... LBP informs me of publishings of level 9 by Lady...can only assume this means that its close to done.2010-09-19 21:26:00

Author:
Lockstitch
Posts: 415

Who could the clown be?

O_O

Probably Chuck_18mp? Of course, it would be cool if it was...

...Someone else...		2010-09-19 21:32:00

Author:
KlawwTheClown
Posts: 1106

can't wait guys, you put a lot of effort into this, to make it work.2010-09-19 21:48:00

Author:
Pattington_Bear
Posts: 777

Probably Chuck_18mp? Of course, it would be cool if it was...

...Someone else...

Dunno, could be anyone. Could maybe be the one I am replying to...		2010-09-20 21:42:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

Dunno, could be anyone. Could maybe be the one I am replying to...

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's this guy (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/member.php?552-CaptainClown). That's just me though :/

...

Anywho... um...

...

Rawk?		2010-09-20 21:48:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's this guy (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/member.php?552-CaptainClown). That's just me though :/

You mean the guy who has never posted and left the day they joined?

Oh...k... somehow I don't really feel as excited about this any more...




2010-09-20 22:14:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

You mean the guy who has never posted and left the day they joined?

Oh...k... somehow I don't really feel as excited about this any more...






Maybe another preview would cheer you up.
2010-09-20 22:16:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's this guy (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/member.php?552-CaptainClown). That's just me though :/

Beep, Beep, Beep! I'm detecting massive ammounts of sarcasm in this post!
I'm not telling you who it is... but someone in this thread guessed pretty close 		2010-09-20 22:17:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322

You mean the guy who has never posted and left the day they joined?


And he somehow has over 4,000 XP points! 		2010-09-20 22:19:00

Author:
X-FROGBOY-X
Posts: 1800

And he somehow has over 4,000 XP points!

You get 3 exp for every day you're registered, whether or not you log on. :/

... in other news...

...

...

I've... got a pony...

Wait, Takelow is not done. He decided to do something else... nothing too exciting, and nothing that will delay the game... probably will be "DLC" of a sort... ... stay tuned :kz:		2010-09-20 22:21:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Oh Rock you fool, now we're all going to expect DLC! 2010-09-21 16:26:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

is it ladylyn1?2010-09-21 16:34:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

I don't think so... 2010-09-21 17:07:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

lol this is driving me nuts show me something more familiar sheeeesh lol 2010-09-21 17:14:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

so any more story details? like if you are in the website itself or something? i keep thinking different scripts for the sequel ever since the last one i thought up2010-09-21 17:39:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

Don't expect a true story per se over the 13 levels.
It is more like a travel in different places, always linked to the forum in some ways.		2010-09-21 18:35:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

so any more story details? like if you are in the website itself or something? i keep thinking different scripts for the sequel ever since the last one i thought up

The various aspects of the website are turned into places - it's like LBPC is its own little world. Filled with avatars, spinning things, bananas, peanuts, spotlights, mecha, water (real AND fake!), lasers, wings, sand...

And some super-secret easter eggs.

It's all a mess, really. Someone get a mop!		2010-09-21 21:53:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

SOoooooooooooooo. any possible countdown that should be commenced!? IM DYING FOR THIS RELEASE!2010-09-21 23:30:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Hard to fix a precise countdown... even if the only thing remaining is level 9a, but it seems pretty hard for Rick and Lady to complete it.
Also remains some betatesting for the 9a, 9b and 13 levels...		2010-09-22 07:28:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

I can beta test some levels if you wanna...
>_>
<_<

Just saying...

2010-09-22 07:35:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

I will just say: That joke was hilarious 2010-09-22 07:38:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

The various aspects of the website are turned into places - it's like LBPC is its own little world. Filled with avatars, spinning things, bananas, peanuts, spotlights, mecha, water (real AND fake!), lasers, wings, sand...

And some super-secret easter eggs.

It's all a mess, really. Someone get a mop!

(gets ready to cross out the idea of everyone who views the site gets trapped in forever and the mods and rocksauron (and maybe me) go on a quest to get everyone out)		2010-09-22 11:58:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

I have an idea that migh be a radical one. I know we are all anxiously awaiting the arrival of LBPC: The Game, with everyone making all this hubbub about it, I really would like the lbp community to get some action of it too. How would creating a thread that gets a list of willing people who will play the levels (once they are published) all at the same time so that they can get some face time on the Cool Pages? I think this would really get a great haulout for all the hard work that you guys have put into this project. I'm just throwing out this idea, hoping that it sticks 2010-09-22 15:37:00

Author:
damaz10
Posts: 771

I have an idea that migh be a radical one. I know we are all anxiously awaiting the arrival of LBPC: The Game, with everyone making all this hubbub about it, I really would like the lbp community to get some action of it too. How would creating a thread that gets a list of willing people who will play the levels (once they are published) all at the same time so that they can get some face time on the Cool Pages? I think this would really get a great haulout for all the hard work that you guys have put into this project. I'm just throwing out this idea, hoping that it sticks

It is a good idea, but with everyone going crazy when Rock says "It's done" will send it flying to the pages. 		2010-09-22 16:29:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

Rocksauron will take the final decision, but it is not sure that all the levels have the chance to be on the cool pages.

However, your idea is nice Damaz10, thank you 		2010-09-22 18:05:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Aww... I remember back when Rock first came up with this idea... *sigh* Those were the days....

(Shameless Plug: For more info on what LBPC used to be like, check out the link in my sig!! You'll be glad ya did! ^^ )

I feel like I'm in an informercial.... *cries*		2010-09-22 18:27:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

I can beta test some levels if you wanna...
>_>
<_<

Just saying...




>_>

Ditto.

:colossus:		2010-09-22 19:42:00

Author:
Fishrock123
Posts: 1578

My thoughts?

Give it a week or two.		2010-09-22 19:44:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

I have an idea that migh be a radical one. I know we are all anxiously awaiting the arrival of LBPC: The Game, with everyone making all this hubbub about it, I really would like the lbp community to get some action of it too. How would creating a thread that gets a list of willing people who will play the levels (once they are published) all at the same time so that they can get some face time on the Cool Pages? I think this would really get a great haulout for all the hard work that you guys have put into this project. I'm just throwing out this idea, hoping that it sticks

Yeah, I don't think any levels aside from level 1 will be on Cool Pages. I've thought about this for a while, and though many members of my team (such as Takelow above) want it all to be on Cool Pages to maximize plays... I just don't think it'd be that useful.

This series is a big commitment play-wise compared to other levels (obviously). Since each level is locked in succession, people will have to play level 1 to get to level 2, ect.

So even if all 21 levels (yes, 21 separate level patches) are republished all at once... They would need to play level 1 in order to go any further.

Now basically, if they were to play a later level, they'd have already had to have played the previous level. So in effect, having 19 locked levels (only level 1 and the vault being unlocked at the beginning) on Cool Pages wouldn't do much, because people who want to play such a long game would have to WANT to play it all to get to the later levels.

Yes, Cool Pages are full of crap, and this would better it... but I don't think we need to worry about public reception. I think we'll be well received no matter how we decide to handle it

Plus this in a way represents LBPC, and I don't really want to do that group publishing thing to take control of Cool Pages that some people hate- I'm worried people would connect that to LBPC, so yeah My mine's kinda set on 1 level on Cool Pages, I just don't see how having more levels on cool pages only unlockable through playing other levels will inspire people to play them just because they're on Cool Pages ;-;


Aww... I remember back when Rock first came up with this idea... *sigh* Those were the days....

(Shameless Plug: For more info on what LBPC used to be like, check out the link in my sig!! You'll be glad ya did! ^^ )

I feel like I'm in an informercial.... *cries*

20 months... Yeah, This has gone through so much time...

And I hear you about LBPC... Probably more so for me then for you. Since I pretty much live here and all. And only have one friend not on LBPC. Yeah. >_> <_<


>_>

Ditto.

:colossus:

Response to Silverleon as well, just didn't feel like clicking on page 160 to quote him

Don't really need beta testers now, it's just waaaaay too late. I probably should have had some beta testers near the beginning, more people to test it all... but too late now. If I do make LBPC: TG2, then I'll be sure to change a lot of the things I do here . But as it stands now, it's just way, WAY too late to bring anyone in. Plus I've been breaking level 13 enough by myself so yeah. lol		2010-09-22 20:42:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Don't worry Rock.
I only have 1 friend outside LBP(C) too! ^^		2010-09-22 20:55:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Well I have pretty much no friends outside of LBPC, this place is like a family to me!
But yeah, I really can't wait for this, I actually remember seeing the original thread and thinking "Meh, probably get abandoned eventually." How glad I am that I was wrong!		2010-09-22 21:28:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

Muhahahahahahaha...

Yeah, deleted that other thread... I was beat down, yo, g.

Looks like we're opening the floodgates.

Deleted it cause I was pretty much convinced, or well enough, that people hate Cool Pages as it stand or don't care.

So yeah

...

...

D:

It also means I wrote that essay a few posts up for nothing... lol		2010-09-22 22:34:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

I am jealous that you guys talk about getting on Cool Pages as if it's something you can do whenever you desire (which it probably is because you're Rawk and Takelow).

How good it must feel to be riding high! 		2010-09-22 23:22:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Now basically, if they were to play a later level, they'd have already had to have played the previous level. So in effect, having 19 locked levels (only level 1 and the vault being unlocked at the beginning) on Cool Pages wouldn't do much, because people who want to play such a long game would have to WANT to play it all to get to the later levels.l

What about the key glitch?

So me and anyone else that have the key glitch are doomed and may not be able to play the series?		2010-09-22 23:24:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

I agree that this is an issue, me and Lady also have this glitch (which has made testing levels a right pain in the lower dorsal extremity), and as such we're trying to figure out the best way to release them. Currently, I favor either unlocking the levels incrementally, or all at once after an arbitrary point in time. The real issue is in the unlockable minigames, as there is little point in sticker hunting if you can already access the reward at the end.2010-09-22 23:30:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322

How about sticker unlocking?
You get a sticker at the end of each level to allow access to the next.
But that might not work for levels with higher thermo.		2010-09-23 04:55:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607

How about sticker unlocking?
You get a sticker at the end of each level to allow access to the next.
But that might not work for levels with higher thermo.
Yea, that wouldn't work very well with several levels. Also, that would lead to a lot of poor ratings, as random people end up in these levels without the necessary sticker to proceed. Keys are the best way to unlock levels... if only there was a way of getting rid of the key bug 		2010-09-23 05:23:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322

Yeah, I don't think any levels aside from level 1 will be on Cool Pages. I've thought about this for a while, and though many members of my team (such as Takelow above) want it all to be on Cool Pages to maximize plays... I just don't think it'd be that useful.

This series is a big commitment play-wise compared to other levels (obviously). Since each level is locked in succession, people will have to play level 1 to get to level 2, ect.

So even if all 21 levels (yes, 21 separate level patches) are republished all at once... They would need to play level 1 in order to go any further.

Now basically, if they were to play a later level, they'd have already had to have played the previous level. So in effect, having 19 locked levels (only level 1 and the vault being unlocked at the beginning) on Cool Pages wouldn't do much, because people who want to play such a long game would have to WANT to play it all to get to the later levels.

Yes, Cool Pages are full of crap, and this would better it... but I don't think we need to worry about public reception. I think we'll be well received no matter how we decide to handle it

Plus this in a way represents LBPC, and I don't really want to do that group publishing thing to take control of Cool Pages that some people hate- I'm worried people would connect that to LBPC, so yeah My mine's kinda set on 1 level on Cool Pages, I just don't see how having more levels on cool pages only unlockable through playing other levels will inspire people to play them just because they're on Cool Pages ;-;



20 months... Yeah, This has gone through so much time...

And I hear you about LBPC... Probably more so for me then for you. Since I pretty much live here and all. And only have one friend not on LBPC. Yeah. >_> <_<



Response to Silverleon as well, just didn't feel like clicking on page 160 to quote him

Don't really need beta testers now, it's just waaaaay too late. I probably should have had some beta testers near the beginning, more people to test it all... but too late now. If I do make LBPC: TG2, then I'll be sure to change a lot of the things I do here . But as it stands now, it's just way, WAY too late to bring anyone in. Plus I've been breaking level 13 enough by myself so yeah. lol

Yeah dude I see what you mean. My intentions were to get some new faces to join lbpc because of the level series, not for more plays and hearts and anything like that. Its completly understandable what you are doing dude and this level series should bring a good overhaul of new, fresh faces to lbpc. Good luck to all the creators working on this, you should get giant cookies when all of this is done and finished with!		2010-09-23 15:11:00

Author:
damaz10
Posts: 771

Yea, that wouldn't work very well with several levels. Also, that would lead to a lot of poor ratings, as random people end up in these levels without the necessary sticker to proceed. Keys are the best way to unlock levels... if only there was a way of getting rid of the key bug

Only way to work around this is have a separate acc with all the levels also published on it and a key room to unlock them.		2010-09-23 15:25:00

Author:
Fishrock123
Posts: 1578

Only way to work around this is have a separate acc with all the levels also published on it and a key room to unlock them.

...That's what we're doing. Where have you been?		2010-09-23 20:15:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

ao rock is everything going as planned?2010-09-23 22:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well, now it seems you got a bit more of a chance to actually finish before LBP2 releases huh?

(Altho not by much.
>_>
<_<
Who said that?! )		2010-09-23 22:29:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

ao rock is everything going as planned?

Well, Burn has the 160 hour glitch in level 13, so he needs to copy that entire level into a new level... which will be annoying I'm sure >_<

Then Rick and Lady are almost completely done level 9a...

Then we'll need to show CC...

Oh, and determine how we're handling keys and the whole key glitch...

Eh :/		2010-09-23 22:33:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Well, now it seems you got a bit more of a chance to actually finish before LBP2 releases huh?



Maybe even have time to produce LBPC The Game 2. 		2010-09-23 22:39:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

We are waiting on 1, repeat 1 avatar pic to complete Level 9A. Hopefully we will receive it by tomorrow, but if not we will release without it.

So, we can say Level 9A is completed and thoroughly beta tested at this point.

For the record, I am not an advocate of the 160 hour or level key bugs. Please join forces with me and we will storm the creators of these undesirable features that mysteriously made their way into a game that used to be so peaceful, and pleasantly frustrating .

Rick		2010-09-24 04:58:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Why can't that certain individual get their act together, Rick? The nerve...

I am proud to say that I haven't done jack squat for this thing in a while. But what I have done is the best of my ability. You all shall know true joy after playing levels 8 and 12!

...and a minigame. and level 2's boss. And level 5's boss, kinda...

Hunh. I get around.


(still not as much as takelow, though. what a workhorse!)		2010-09-24 05:28:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

Rocksauron take on a franchise of LBPC games. Ideas:LBPC The RPG? LBPC The Racing Game? LBPC The fighting game?

lol		2010-09-24 21:43:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Rocksauron take on a franchise of LBPC games. Ideas:LBPC The RPG? LBPC The Racing Game? LBPC The fighting game?

lol

Give it 20 months, it might happen.		2010-09-25 00:22:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

Rocksauron take on a franchise of LBPC games. Ideas:LBPC The RPG? LBPC The Racing Game? LBPC The fighting game?

lol

Grand Theft Auto: LBPC! Features:
- Many vehicles, including skates and rocket cheetas!
- All of LBP's and LBP2's soundtrack as radio;
- Two cities based on the forums: LittleBigCity: the main city, and PortableCity (LBP PSP);
- Many LBPC characters and an awesome storyline!

GTA: LBPC is a trademark of RAWKstar games and shall not be sold, borrowed, downloaded, played or ever released without agreement of the Terms of Use and the purchasing of a 500$ key. Available only for LBP2.		2010-09-25 00:29:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

It seems the only solution is to use stickers to start the levels. That way, the key glitch would no longer be a problem. In fact, the sticker thing wouldn't be so bad; when you beat the game, you could get a sticker that unlocks all the levels.
HOWEVER, if you did that, then jerks could give away the stickers to people who hadn't beaten the levels. Stickers you don't have are supposed to vanish if you pick them up with the sticker mover, though, but I'm not sure that always works for community stickers...
And, if you didn't use keys, all the levels would show up. But people with short attention spans could rate them badly because they can't get the key, or sticker, or whatever...
...No matter how hard you try to make a good system, people will find a way to break it! :kz:		2010-09-25 17:57:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276

It seems the only solution is to use stickers to start the levels.

We discussed this. We concluded that the levels would get bad ratings because the outsiders would not have played the series in order, and therefore would rate the level poorly due to not having the sticker to actually play the level. And we don't want bad ratings, daddy-o.

I had a different idea... Not sure if I discussed it.		2010-09-25 18:06:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

SOON.

Yes.

So soon I went ahead and edited this account.

Go me. Who is me? Well, I am LBPCSeries.

At any rate, SOON		2010-09-25 19:45:00

Author:
LBPCSeries
Posts: 2

Rawk?! Is that you?
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/phakimata/phakimata0806/phakimata080600156/3147943-cute-white-with-black-eye-french-bulldog-sitting-tilting-its-head-and-having-his-tongue-hanging-out.jpg

Either way, soon is good! 		2010-09-25 20:13:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

SOON.

Yes.

So soon I went ahead and edited this account.

Go me. Who is me? Well, I am LBPCSeries.

At any rate, SOON

What the... who the hell is this? O-o

Someone's messing with you guys, guys. That is not me, it's some joke.

Seriously.

...

/runs		2010-09-25 20:14:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Someone's messing with you guys, guys. That is not me, it's some joke.

Seriously.

Oh yeah? Then how did they get a custom title? Heh?

Oh and also how do they have 20 posts in a forum that I don't have access to?		2010-09-25 20:19:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

Because it's not Rock, Doopz...
It's.. Comph..

*Eastenders closing theme tune* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCBUp8aWI4)		2010-09-25 20:32:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Let me handle this...

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/its_a_trap.jpg		2010-09-25 20:38:00

Author:
Silver39
Posts: 1703

O.o Who could LBPCSeries be?! Only time will tell...
/Hides from Eastenders		2010-09-25 20:43:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554

Oh yeah? Then how did they get a custom title? Heh?

Oh and also how do they have 20 posts in a forum that I don't have access to?

Teebs.

It's always Teebs.		2010-09-25 22:30:00

Author:
LBPCSeries
Posts: 2

SOOOOON! OH BOY I'VE BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDhf_0QtM10)MOMENT, FOR ALL MY LIFE! OH LORD!
EDIT: I'M IN LOVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeEuFWLt3WU)WITH THE POSSIBLILITY OF THIS COMING OUT TODAY OR TOMORROW, PLZ DONT HURT ME!!
EDIT 2: GUYZ LOOK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)ROCK POSTED THAT ITS COMING OUT TONIGHT!!		2010-09-26 01:24:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Soon? Hmmm... Not really sure... Bad joies???... Run :/2010-09-26 01:32:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Do you guyz have pork (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBoLA_BQ4tU) in this game!? Okay.. lol srry I'm officially done spamming 2010-09-26 01:36:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

It should be VERRRRRY SOOOOON indeed. Level 9A was published this morning. I think Burn has either completed, or very nearly completed, the rebuild of Level 13 after the 160 hour bug, Beta testing has been happening on and off all day, and the illustrious CC has ventured beyond the server walls to play what he could play .

All in all, a very busy and productive day for a Series that will be published SOOOONER or later .

But later is a relative term...so later may be SOOOONER than you think.

Rick 		2010-09-26 02:42:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

So, you said SOOOOONNNN Rick?2010-09-26 03:45:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

So, you said SOOOOONNNN Rick?

How soon?

Is it "almost"?		2010-09-26 03:51:00

Author:
Fishrock123
Posts: 1578

Can't be more SOON than now!!! 2010-09-26 03:54:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

I think we are in the "Official Approval" stage...looking for a "thumbs up", "green light", "It's a GO!", "Break a leg!", "What are you waiting for?", "I concur!", or something to that effect .2010-09-26 03:57:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

well, I have two thumbs and they are up...let's play these levels now.2010-09-26 03:58:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

I think too... Rock, are you sleeping? How can you sleep NOWWWW???? 2010-09-26 04:01:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Stop pulling my !@#$$^@# leg peopolz!!!!2010-09-26 04:03:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

http://freeweb.siol.net/soca2000/sarcasm-detector.gif

Are we picking up cable? The detector is giving me funny readings - i'm not sure what to think!		2010-09-26 04:13:00

Author:
Fishrock123
Posts: 1578

I think I can summarize everyone's feelings right now...

HOLY ****. IT'S FINALLY FINISHED.		2010-09-26 04:17:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757

Dang. Someone record the entire thing for me, I sold my PS3. D:2010-09-26 04:27:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

@Whaaaaale: I can't wait to play inside of you!! 2010-09-26 04:30:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757

@Whaaaaale: I can't wait to play inside of you!!

Oh dear, that's interesting.		2010-09-26 04:51:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

@Whaaaaale: I can't wait to play inside of you!!

Man, now I have "Inside of You" by Infant Sorrow stuck in my head. I am going to have to play that song while I play inside Whaaaaale		2010-09-26 04:51:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

so is it already published?2010-09-26 05:14:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

so is it already published?

I don't think it is...		2010-09-26 05:18:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

I'm sure Rock will make an offical announcement when he does publish. Personally I would like to thank everyone for being so patient with us. I hope we don't disappoint.2010-09-26 05:22:00

Author:
Lady_Luck__777
Posts: 3458

Not quite published, but I think Rock was aiming to get it out this weekend. After wrestling with the level for several hours, I've recovered 13 to a playable state. I think we're just waiting on a final playtest/bug check and then... well... soon :kz:2010-09-26 05:48:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322

I haven't written that much in here, since it seemed like something that would have never got out of the darkest corner of Rock's mind...but I always waited.
Good to hear you're almost there guys!!!		2010-09-26 09:57:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Great news that you're so close to the finishing line. Good luck with the launch! http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/warlord_evil/happypandaface.png2010-09-26 10:44:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Just like to say guys, I've been with you since the start, and I never thought you couldn't do this.

I'm so proud. *looks down on creators fondly*

*wets self in excitement... again*
Darn, I need to get that sorted out.. :/


Finally, why do I get the feeling that this will be released sometime today?! 		2010-09-26 11:42:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Thank you plasmavore for your support 2010-09-26 11:50:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

You're very welcome ^_^2010-09-26 11:53:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Well wow... Sorry, don't really want to disappoint you, but... well... there are... problems... And we have to delay this another week. Or maybe not. I unno. I'm evil.

Anywho, yeah. There are a few things that are a bit eh now... I just think everyone's tired. And excited of course. Yep.

Man... This is, like, unreal. Totally. Or maybe not. I unno. Where's CC? It's 4 over there, so, uh, yeah. lol.		2010-09-26 12:35:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Well wow... Sorry, don't really want to disappoint you, but... well... there are... problems... And we have to delay this another week. Or maybe not. I unno. I'm evil.

Anywho, yeah. There are a few things that are a bit eh now... I just think everyone's tired. And excited of course. Yep.

Man... This is, like, unreal. Totally. Or maybe not. I unno. Where's CC? It's 4 over there, so, uh, yeah. lol.

lol...I just realized you're actually a very funny person. 		2010-09-26 12:45:00

Author:
TheCountessZ
Posts: 537

Can't wait for this babayyyyy to come out. Will be cool tingz1112010-09-26 13:58:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

Thank you everyone for your support, encouragement and continued interest in this 2 year long endeavor. I'm not sure what the issue is that Rock speaks of, or whether he is just being "EVIL", but I'm sure it will sorted out asap.

Sooooooo...when it's a done deal, you may want to take your vitamins before you start playing...and I challenge you to see how many levels you can play back to back without taking a break. Well, you can go to the restroom...especially you plasmavore...although you appear to be already "drenched" with excitement.		2010-09-26 15:24:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Yep, just being evil. I like messing with their minds <3

Anywho, um, yeah. I'm gonna be perfectly clear. Right now, we're mostly just waiting for CC. ... Dear god. O_O

I just want to say thank you to everyone who helped make this possible. Not just my team, but the people who have been clawing at my ankles for some time. Having something people wanted so badly just made it even more possible. Thank you for your support, without it we wouldn't have had the drive to complete this <3

... to complete this... it's... like...

... Woah. Just... woah.		2010-09-26 15:27:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

I've been waiting for this to happen, and it finally has! I'm so excited, tell CC to hurry up! 2010-09-26 15:31:00

Author:
X-FROGBOY-X
Posts: 1800

Who lives closet to CC? If anyone lives near him, go to his house and force him to play!!! 2010-09-26 15:43:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

I could TRY to run up and give 'em a wake-up call...

But then he'd ban my sorry little butt.

It's 8:00 AM here, so he still might be sleeping...		2010-09-26 15:57:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757

Can't wait to play..... Seriously, where is it!?
I'm glad it's almost finished.		2010-09-26 15:57:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276

My energy level...

http://forum.ntreev.net/trickster/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/43/3666.9000cat.jpg

http://9001chan.org/8999/8/over9000.jpg

http://piratesoft.org/images/9000/over9000-4.jpg


But seriously, I'm pretty excited about this.		2010-09-26 16:15:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

I'm excited :}2010-09-26 16:44:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

Same here. I can't bear it any longer!2010-09-26 16:51:00

Author:
theonlybub
Posts: 690

........

Canz I be in itz? Canz I help out?

^Joke...		2010-09-26 16:55:00

Author:
talbot-trembler
Posts: 1114

Oh thank gawd, when rock said it might be another week i almost died..... And then he dismissed it as him being evil and I gave a big sigh of relief lol2010-09-26 17:01:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Yeah, you can be in: Play the level asa published, you would be "in".
Yeah, you can help: Play the level asa published, you would help.

2010-09-26 17:02:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

It sounds like TODAY is a possibility. 2010-09-26 17:54:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

It sounds like TODAY is a possibility.

More then a possibility, pretty much a definite... as long as CC pops on soon. lol. ;-;		2010-09-26 17:55:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

This is so great. I'm excited and proud of the work my children have done. I've raise you all well... :,)2010-09-26 17:57:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979

YEAH!
But now what will I do? lol
Hopefully soon Rock.		2010-09-26 17:58:00

Author:
Lady_Luck__777
Posts: 3458

YEAH!
But now what will I do? lol
Hopefully soon Rock.

Well hopefully you all get the LBP2 Beta and work on LBPCTG 2!!! lol		2010-09-26 18:02:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Well hopefully you all get the LBP2 Beta and work on LBPCTG 2!!! lol

Why build a level in the beta? :I		2010-09-26 18:17:00

Author:
Unknown User

Why build a level in the beta? :I

Because people are cool like that.

Also, I'm going out later, so... I might have to play tomorrow 		2010-09-26 18:19:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

Why build a level in the beta? :I

Why not? :		2010-09-26 18:26:00

Author:
TheBlackKnight22
Posts: 695

Why not? :

Maybe because the beta is filled with numerous bugs and isn't the full game, therefore not having all of the perks yet?

Chyeah?		2010-09-26 19:32:00

Author:
Unknown User

And of course the fact beta levels don't transfer over.

I think everyone would much rather have LBPC: The Game 2 that they can play without the need for beetahz.		2010-09-26 19:34:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

^
True.
I had my PS3 freeze on me 4 times today while playing the Beta... 		2010-09-26 19:35:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Well... CC is currently out of town... Aya says should be back in 30 or so hours.

...

...

I unno what to do now ;-;		2010-09-26 19:35:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

What's the harm of releasing it early? It could be like small beta test, anybody watching the thread could play it, and when CC posts news about it, everyone can play it without any problems...

Right?

Or do you want a head start thing?		2010-09-26 19:37:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193

It will also haunt my nightmares tonight.. D:2010-09-26 19:43:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Rock is about to post something epic.

I haz mind reading powahz.		2010-09-26 19:44:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

Hm... eh, we need some peepz to do the whole 5 star/ heart thing...

... Meh, why the hell not.

Anyone watching this thread... Send LBPCSeries a friend request. I will then send you two keys- one for level 1 and 1 for the Vault. Use the stickers from the series in the vault to unlock minigames on LBPCSeriesBonus.

Also, just because I'm evil, or rather because I want the contests to be fair, anyone with early access gets cannot win the contests. Or rather can win high score ones, just not the other two. Cause I say so. ... Yeah.

... I'm going to limit this to peepz who've been active in this thread... I.e. I've seen post a few times. If you've never posted, then... uh... yeah. Anywho, BETA?!

Oh, and just so everyone is clear... :star::star::star::star::star: and a <3 for all. K? lol		2010-09-26 19:44:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Hm... eh, we need some peepz to do the whole 5 star/ heart thing...

... Meh, why the hell not.

Anyone watching this thread... Send LBPCSeries a friend request. I will then send you two keys- one for level 1 and 1 for the Vault. Use the stickers from the series in the vault to unlock minigames on LBPCSeriesBonus.

Also, just because I'm evil, or rather because I want the contests to be fair, anyone with early access gets cannot win the contests. Or rather can win high score ones, just not the other two. Cause I say so. ... Yeah.

... I'm going to limit this to peepz who've been active in this thread... I.e. I've seen post a few times. If you've never posted, then... uh... yeah. Anywho, BETA?!

Oh, and just so everyone is clear... :star::star::star::star::star: and a <3 for all. K? lol

Can't wait to rate this entire series -11 stars and give -2 hearts!		2010-09-26 19:51:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

*runs to PS3*2010-09-26 19:54:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913

Dang! I'm not at my PS3!! I wanna play so bad!! 2010-09-26 20:07:00

Author:
X-FROGBOY-X
Posts: 1800

.. I hate my sister for 'having' to watch X Factor right at this time.. >=(2010-09-26 20:10:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913


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